User talk:Gryffindor/Archive15

Nomination of List of rulers of Ife for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of rulers of Ife is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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DYK for Golden Tea Room
Vanamonde (talk) 01:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Question
Hi, Gryffindor! I've got a question I can't solve and I'd love some advice from you. You see, there is this file; and I are having disagreements over what countries should be included. Since our seem to get stuck, I'd love to get some third opinions to help us solve the problem. How do you think this problem should be solved? Should we (provided Kolja agrees) contact WP:EU or is there a special place for a discussion? Thank you!--R8R (talk) 18:46, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much!--R8R (talk) 11:01, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editor requests
Gryffindor, you're currently up to four requests at WP:GOCE/REQ, but the limit is two active requests at any one time. Please remove two of your requests. You can always resubmit them, one at a time, as each of the remaining two requests is completed. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Star of Venus
Do you think the history of Star of Venus should be merged? Agathoclea (talk) 10:12, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Blue Dragon
Thank you for your work on Blue Dragon. I hope you do not mind to repair a few templats, that are now linking to a disambiguation page: Template:Toonami-anime, Template:Blue Dragon series, Template:Mistwalker and Template:Akira Toriyama. Thank you in advance. The Banner talk 11:15, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

House of
Do not move articles that start "House of" without using an WP:RM as such move are often controversial see a previous discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves/Archive 29 -- PBS (talk) 14:17, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Also do not edit the resultant redirect, like for some of the recent moves that you made because to do so stops an editor easily reverting you moves and so such edits are disruptive. -- PBS (talk) 14:21, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Whether or not "House of" is correct or incorrect is not something to be decided by a rule. It is something to be decided by consensus on the talk page, and if a move is to be made then use WP:RM. It is much more complicated for continental European families as everyone and his dog held sovereign rights over their territory at one time or another before the founding of the modern national states. -- PBS (talk) 14:30, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not proposing anything. I am not claiming right of wrong. I am suggesting that instead of moving hundreds of articles because you "know" that that are incorrectly named that you get consensus for the moves. How do yo know that the rule you are enforcing is correct in all cases? -- PBS (talk) 14:47, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Lets look at an example. Here is a link a source of one of the pages you moved House of Arenberg. Why did you move it? -- PBS (talk) 14:53, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * He ors she, claims that he wants to change everything like the English model of nobility, in my vieuw, not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carolus (talk • contribs) 14:54, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Saw your first comment so there was no need to reiterate with "Again, if these are families that were not ruling...", what is the source that you draw this conclusion and let's look at the practical example I have given with House of Arenberg and the use of the term by the Arenberg Foundation. What is you source that says this usage is incorrect? -- PBS (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I do understand what that argument has to do with the Belgian nobility?--Carolus (talk) 15:16, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Not cool
I see you moved House of Croÿ again. Fine, we disagree, although it would have been nice if you had not ignored me when I pinged you before for a reason (User_talk:Gryffindor/Archive14)... and have once again failed to give a reason for your move here...  this edit is some severe gaming of the system. There's no reason to remove that redirect template; it should be there. The only reason you did this is to slow down and annoy people who would revert such an undiscussed move, as would be proper. Next time, use WP:RM, and don't do technical bullshit to try and "enforce" your view. I will be filing an RM now to restore the old name, which is what is used in the sources. SnowFire (talk) 20:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Good luck
If you realy gonna change I do not see why or the urge to change all structures, but your game, have fun! --Carolus (talk) 14:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Category:Privy councils
 * Category:State executive councils
 * Category:City councils in Taiwan

Speedy deletion nomination of Federal Ministry of Science and Technology (Nigeria)


A tag has been placed on Federal Ministry of Science and Technology (Nigeria) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

"Allow renaming of Nigerian Ministry of Science & Technology"

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Shamash-sun-symbol
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Proposed deletion of Agano Kawara ware


The article Agano Kawara ware has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "I couldn't find any evidence that this is in any way notable"

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Fram (talk) 09:33, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Japanese bamboo weaving
Hello! Your submission of Japanese bamboo weaving at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 23:21, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Dwarika's Hotel for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dwarika's Hotel is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Dwarika's Hotel until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CelenaSkaggs (talk) 19:29, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Japanese bamboo weaving
Alex ShihTalk 00:02, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Ikebana
Hello, Gryffindor – If I have time tomorrow, I'll read through the article once more, but I think I've been pretty thorough. – Corinne (talk) 03:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Ikebana
Gryffindor, when you created this DYK nomination back on October 3, you neglected to take the final step in the process: to transclude it onto the DYK nominations page at T:TDYK. So it was effectively orphaned.

I've just discovered that this happened, and I was going to offer to have it restored for you. However, the nomination will have a very difficult road to get approved if I did restore it.

First, DYK requires a 5x expansion to existing articles starting seven days prior to nomination. According to our DYKcheck program, which measures the number of prose characters, the article had 8293 prose characters prior to expansion, and currently has 23852 prose characters. That's just under a 3x expansion; you'd need to expand the article to 41465 prose characters, or add another 17613 characters; that's more than you added in your recent expansion.

There is also a requirement that every paragraph have an inline source citation. This is not true for the article, which also has not one but two refimprove templates: one at the top of the article and one just before the reference listing at the bottom. These templates would also need to be addressed before the DYK nomination could be improved.

Please let me know how you would like to proceed from here. It seems unlikely that you'd be able to make such a large expansion and find sourcing for all those paragraphs without citations, but if you think it's feasible, by all means let me know. You can always simply delete the nomination template, if you'd wish,by tagging the nomination page with db-g7. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 05:05, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response on my talk page; I've put up the nomination template for speedy deletion. Should you ever get Ikebana up to Good Article status—the sourcing issues would need to be taken care of prior to any nomination—you can nominate it again for DYK within seven days of it passing. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:00, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Category:Birds of Iraq has been nominated for discussion
Category:Birds of Iraq, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor(talk) 20:21, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Dojo
I have reverted the move of this article and its corresponding dab page, mainly because you introduced over 500 broken links. I don't think the move to Dōjō is as controversial, but that article would still be the primary topic for the macron-less term. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 11:11, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Move warring

 * (diff) 22:36, 5 November 2017 . . Gryffindor (talk | contribs | block) (19 bytes)
 * (diff) 22:36, 5 November 2017 . . Gryffindor (talk | contribs | block) (36 bytes) (Gryffindor moved page House of Croÿ to Croÿ over redirect: no other article with this name, no need to disambiguate)
 * (diff) 13:07, 12 October 2016 . . Gryffindor (talk | contribs | block) (35 bytes) (Gryffindor moved page House of Croÿ to Croÿ over redirect)

See Requested moves (WP:RMUM); and discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility/Archive 8 which has reached no consensus or conclusion and of which like me you are a participant.

Moving the article in October 2016 was within the bounds of WP:RMUM, but after that was reverted in January 2017 to move it again in November 2017 is clearly a breach of WP:RMUM "".

Altering the resultant redirect, as you did less than a minute after the move on 5 November 2017, is an effective method of preventing a revert of a move by another editor, and has in the past had editors blocked for disruption (if there is no good reason for making such an edit). I do not think that administrators ought to make such edits as it could be used as a playground defence "but (s)he does it" by a disruptive editor. -- PBS (talk) 19:30, 7 December 2017 (UTC)


 * On this note. Since you moved the Commons category to just Croÿ as well, would you mind moving that back?  (Well, and also the Wikipedia category as well ideally...  but that happened a longer time ago.)  SnowFire (talk) 03:54, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Again?? at and at. Moved all the categories and many other pages too, which is extremely disruptive (WP:RM is that way) Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:40, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Federation of Austrian Industry (logo).png
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Moving "House of Foo" to "Foo family"
Hi Gryffindor, can you please help me understand why you're moving "House of" articles to "... family" articles? The German Wikipedia style is to call all noble families "Foo (Adelgeschlecht)", the English equivalent which is usually "House of Foo". "Foo family", on the other hand, is used for notable, not noble families e.g. the Fugger family who were influential merchants but not nobility. A "house" refers to noble family of any kind from count to duke - see dynasty. Cheers. --Bermicourt (talk) 09:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Please stop moving "House of" articles without a discussion and consensus!
Hi, I see you're ignoring my comments and continuing to move these articles, despite there being no consensus on this subject here or here. Please stop. That is not how Wikipedia operates. --Bermicourt (talk) 11:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth I totally agree with the moves. Dom from Paris (talk) 12:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That's fine, but now that they have been objected to, it is clear that they are not uncontroversial requests, so they should go through the Requested moves process (perhaps as a single multimove request). I am particularly concerned that there appears to be an attempt to block reversions to many of these changes by performing a subsequent edit to remove the "R from move" template. This is creating a lot of work for everyone. I have no opinion on these moves, but it is a lot of work to go through deleting pages in order to get things back where they started. Dekimasu よ! 18:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ambox notice.svg There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. With apologies, I have significant concerns about the pattern of page moves I see here and believe that it is worth discussing with the community in order to persuade you to discontinue this sort of activity. That said, I hope we can continue to work together productively in the future. Best, Dekimasu よ! 08:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. I really advise getting over to the ANI thread ASAP and telling everyone your side of the story, otherwise it looks like there might be a campaign to remove your admin rights. If you give a reasonable explanation now, you can stop that; if you don't, it might well carry on to that as nobody has been given a convincing argument why they shouldn't. Or you could go to WP:BN and just resign your tools "under a cloud", then apply for the page mover right some time later - at least that's one way of stopping all this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:57, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You might want to wait a couple of minutes and bounce off the comment I am in the middle of leaving. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your service
Hi, Thanks for your service here and thanks for handing your bit in, Unfortunately I think you knew it was heading towards a desysop one way or another but doing it in a peaceful way is always the best way to go and without a doubt it certainly goes in your favour, Anyway thanks again for your service here and happy editing, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:46, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Very sorry to see that. Happy editing and maybe see you around here, or at least I hope so. cheers Dom from Paris (talk) 16:30, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Notification of page move ban
Hi Gryffindor

This is to notify you that following the community discussion, there was consensus for an indefinite page move ban to be placed on you, as detailed at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents. The terms of the ban, and how you may appeal it are also detailed there. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)