User talk:Gryllida/Archives/2013

re your message on Incnis' page
Posting this here because Incnis directly asked to not continue this discussion on his page.

I appreciate being pointed to pages that can use some expertise and i was reading Outline of Perl with great interest, noting many things that need fixing. Curious, i went to your edit history to see how involved you were with Perl on wikipedia and had a rude surprise. What i saw was that you, as opposed to Incnis, did not possess the courtesy of holding off on further reverts until this matter had been discussed and instead had proceeded to indiscriminately revert edits.

Now i ask of you to be honest to yourself and answer me this question: Where should i draw the motivation from to help a website that is unintentionally, but directly damaging Perl and insists on continuing to do so without even an attempt to engage in actual communication?

Mithaldu (talk) 22:46, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


 * If you think that "introducing clumsy wording and replacing common idioms" is "a proper way of doing things so Perl is not damaged", I'm thinking you're way off something here. If you'd like to get an opinion of a third (now fourth) person, like Incnis Mrsi suggested, ask at the Perl WikiProject talk, or the Village pump, or elsewhere, and give a link on his talk. I have nothing against us discussing this matter here either. --Gryllida?? 23:03, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I did not particularly pause to consider how "proper" that way would be. What i did know was that it was the *only* way i was aware of to undo the damage done and being done. I did explore other venues beforehand to implement less intrusive ways, but the Wikipedia search algorithm did not oblige on two different paths.

I fully intend to post on the wikiproject talk page, now that i am aware of it. However to do so properly, i need to describe the issue both accurately and concisely. I plan to do so tomorrow instead of today, seeing how i've been through an 8 hour work day and it is now past midnight here.

Lastly i must admit i find myself very baffled that you would not allow me this time, go ahead and indiscriminately revert edits and *then* ask me to help you. I can only ask: Why?

Mithaldu (talk) 23:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


 * (I would like to advise that Perl is used to only tag articles which are listed inside of that box; if you'd like to indicate that something is related to Perl, that's what [[:Category:Perl]] is for.) Sticking to the common idioms view above, and to that the same wikilink shouldn't be mentioned on the same page twice (especially in the same paragraph), I reviewed all your edits. I liked the name of Cola (programming language), by the way. :-)
 * I'm sorry that your first move met an unanimous denial; it's not how Wikipedia works. I chatted to nonsenseferret and gwickwire on Live Chat, asking their view on the matter; they suggested reading WP:SEO. I might suggest also taking a look at a WP:SEOBOMB concept which is vaguely related.
 * If you don't think that Wikipedia's coverage of Perl is weak, you can go to Wikinews and report Perl news there, if you like. They have strict notability-like standards (newsworthiness) so you would have to take care to report major or local events; new releases of software probably wouldn't qualify. Apart from that, there should be some space for expansion of existing articles; but this isn't the kind of activity everyone likes. Take your time to find something you'll find useful and enjoyable. --Gryllida?? 04:58, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Vibroscope
I caught it in an AWB sweep. It appears to have been marked with for some reason, which is how it came up in my search. I'll fix it accordingly and change the stub tag. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This is due to []. Why do you feel a necessity to notify creator of the article about a couple of silly edits? WP:SOFIXIT. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 05:45, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Someone lost a thread here. Gryllida 06:28, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your fixes. Gryllida 06:28, 3 July 2013 (UTC)