User talk:Guanlin2010

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Speedy deletion nomination of Presidential Youth Council


A tag has been placed on Presidential Youth Council, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article. On the now-deleted talk page you said
 * This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --Guanlin2010 (talk) 18:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC) It is detailing the campaign of one of the largest and most powerful youth movement's in the United States' history. It has massive support for both sides of Congress, many of the most influential youth organizations in the United States and financial backing from large corporations. I don't even work for the Presidential Youth Council; I just believe that their voice should be heard across the country and the world to empower youth to stand up for themselves and be heard! This wiki page is to rally support for a cause and detail its history as the Council progresses. Please do not remove this wiki page. It will be more evidence that the youth voice is suppressed.


 * If you feel that it does need meet wikipedia's guidelines, please tell me how I should change it in order to be in accordance with the guidelines.

The basic problem is that " This wiki page is to rally support for a cause" is not ever acceptable on WP. We're an encyclopedia, not an site for advocacy, regardless of the merit of the cause.T his is not a place to really support for anything. We include encyclopedic information on things shown to be important by references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. If you have such sources, it may be possible to write the article.

A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished. Don't include material that would better belong in an advertisement or a web page, such as  detailed information about internal organization. Do not inclide a list of goals: notability is based on what the subject has accomplished, not what it hopes to accomplish. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM (permission that irrevocably gives everyone in the world the right to copy, reuse, and modify the material), the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is generally no purpose in giving permission; it is better to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective supporters--that sort of content is considered promotional.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity, and for the presence of sources that show notability. The best way of rewriting is to use the WP:Article Wizard, which will guide you towards an acceptable article if one is possible.  DGG ( talk ) 19:14, 12 March 2013 (UTC)