User talk:Guerillero/Archives/2014/December

YGM

 * I have read over your email and that area is not something I want to get (re)involved in at this time. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  19:06, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Query AWB
A quick question: It seems my request for use of AWB is being skipped over. Is there any particular reason? HullIntegrity (talk) 14:36, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Resolved. TY. HullIntegrity (talk) 15:12, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Between the holidays and trying to prep for papers week, I have been super busy. I am sorry I wasn't able to respond sooner. I skipped over your request because it was a slightly more complex request and there was a few policy pages that I needed to look over before working on. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  18:59, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries. I was just antsy to see what I could do with AWB. Thanks again. HullIntegrity (talk) 19:07, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Wow, thank you Drmies! I try to do my best -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  06:55, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 December 2014

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WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...
Hello everyone, and may we wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2015 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. We have a few important announcements concerning the future of the WikiCup.


 * We would like to announce that Josh (J Milburn) and Ed (The ed17), who have been WikiCup judges since 2009 and 2010 respectively, are stepping down. This decision has been made for a number of reasons, but the main one is time. Both Josh and Ed have found that, over the previous year, they have been unable to devote the time necessary to the WikiCup, and it is not likely that they will be able to do this in the near future. Furthermore, new people at the helm can only help to invigorate the WikiCup and keep it dynamic. Josh and Ed will still be around, and will likely be participating in the Cup this following year as competitors, which is where both started out.
 * In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
 * The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

If you have any questions or concerns, the judges can be reached on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, on their talk pages, or by email. We hope you will all join us in trying to make the 2015 WikiCup the most productive and enjoyable yet. You are receiving this message because you are listed on WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk), The ed17 (talk), Miyagawa (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:54, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

End-of-the-year meetups


Hello,

You're invited to the end-of-the-year meetup at Busboys and Poets on Sunday, December 14 at 6 PM. There is Wi-Fi, so bring your computer if you want!

You are also invited to our WikiSalon on Thursday, December 18 at 7 PM.

Hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

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Science socks
If you're interested, I think a certain editor has resumed evading your and USER:Chillum's blocks. I opened up another SPI here. __ E L A Q U E A T E  16:30, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Lovely. It looks like they are barking up the same tree, as always. I endorsed the SPI. --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  19:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  00:45, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * That looks great. I hope I didn't report it in a bothersome way.__ E L A Q U E A T E  01:59, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Tag-team / organized abuse by User:Elaqueate and User:Guerillero to WP:OWN Vani Hari. Thank you. Neil N  talk to me 15:15, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. It looks like this issue has already been taken care of. I will get back to yinz after my feminism final is turned in at 3. --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  16:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Yet another courtesy notice
Your name was again mentioned at ANI. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I don't know if there's anything that can be done about it, but it looks like someone is impersonating you on Facebook. Regards, -- Diannaa (talk) 16:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I honestly think that photo is photoshoped. --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  17:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * A quick search does not turn up any Facebook users under that name. -- Diannaa (talk) 22:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd be very surprised if anyone who has Facebook would use a Wikipedia-related logo as their display picture... Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 23:04, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you Diannaa. I guess I should get back to my paper on Nicomachean Ethics. *drinks more Monster* --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  23:29, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. I'd have definitely noticed if there was a post like that in that group. 199.47.73.100 (talk) 14:43, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I was just coming to check that you were aware of this. I see that you are, so I won't lose any sleep over it :-) Deb (talk) 16:01, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 December 2014

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Activity level
My laptop fell off my bed on Friday and shattered the LCD screen. I have been told that I am going to get it back by 12 Dec but I am not going to hold my breath. In addition, I am in the mist of finals week. Because of both of these, I will not be around much. If you need me, send me an email and I will try to get to you ASAP. --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  20:03, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * My god, Guerillero, did it have your notes for finals revision on it? Can't you borrow In actu's computer, you two seem to be pretty close?  darwin bish  (for Bishonen) BITE   ☠   20:30, 7 December 2014 (UTC).
 * Luckily, most of those sit on my external hard drive, so I am not behind with my revising. --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  21:52, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I am back at home but the computer that I have is a super slow Windows XP era desktop --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  21:03, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Induction to the 2015 Arbitration Committee
Congratulations on your success in the elections and welcome onto the 2015 Arbitration Committee. In the next few days we will induct you and the other new arbitrators. Please email from the email address you wish to use for registration on the various private wikis and mailing lists. Please also indicate which, if any, of the checkuser and oversight permissions you wish to be assigned for your term (if you don't already hold both).

Over the coming days, you will receive a small number of emails. Please carefully read them. If they are automated registration emails, please follow the instructions in them to finalise registration. You can contact me or GorillaWarfare (the designated newbie contacts) directly if you have difficulty with the induction process. Lastly, you must identify to the Wikimedia Foundation prior to being appointed. Please promptly go to the Identification Noticeboard and follow the instructions linked there if you are not already identified.

Thank you for volunteering to serve on the committee. We very much look forward to working with you this term.

For the Arbitration Committee, AGK  [•] 08:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  18:33, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Congrats
... new arb! So far arbitration was (for me at least) a synonym for waste of time, (look for Kafka in my comments to the Signpost just above,) and ideally it shouldn't even be needed, - let's work on that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks? -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  18:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Revdel needed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dan_Savage&diff=prev&oldid=638543012 - is far beyond the pale. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Removed. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  21:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!!


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 * Thank you but I am going to respectfully disagree about that last statement. Christmas has been both a religious and civil holiday for a long while. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  22:55, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 17 December 2014

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Seasonal Greets!

 * Thank you! -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  05:55, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Ambassador Steering Committee
Hi. In April of 2012, citing an e-mail from WMF. Could you enlighten me as to what happened? This was before I joined Wikipedia and I'm curious if this had to do with the Public Policy Initiative. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 05:14, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh boy... I'm not going to say much about it because I don't want to reopen old issues that have passed from the general memory. The committee was formed as a part of the PPI as a body to hand over the direction of the program when the funding ran out. It turns out that the 1 year of funding in 2010 has turned into 5 years of money and some issues popped up. We were superseed. Anything worth knowing is in the minutes that are posted or on the private listserv that I can't access anymore.-- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  05:53, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 17:37, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Cla68
Do I report these to you or the enforcement page? — Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 20:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Here works. Cla self reverted his one edit in the case pages. The other edit is outside of the ban. Because of that, I am not going to do anything at this time -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  21:11, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The other edit is an edit summary where he is reverting me and communicating with me. Its content is the very reason I wanted Cla68 to stop. Are you saying he is free to say "$370" in every edit summary he wants now because they're not on arbitration pages?— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 21:35, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hell, he even sniped at me in response to your notification.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 23:31, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I was reading through this whole mess and I found this edit in which an IP editor (who previously pretended to be Ryulong on a user's talk page) faked comments on his own talk page from a different editor, and made another reference to "$371" -- which seems to be Cla's MO. SinglePurposePartier (talk) 03:28, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi sock of someone. I strongly doubt that cla did that but I will look into it -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  22:03, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Am I allowed to respond to his workshop entries about me when he's presenting the exact same shit he was interaction banned for me for or no? Because he just presented this.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 03:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You were i-banned because you were bickering with Cla not because he was accusing you of paid editing. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  04:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I was only bickering with him because he kept alleging the paid editing thing.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 04:36, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh he also has 2 other proposals that are about me.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 03:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, he is allowed to do that under the topic ban. It is one of the exceptions. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  04:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Diff if it's necessary. I just really want to point out to Weedwacker that the fact that I read a page that if I were to make these corrections Jimbo would be inundated with "WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING PAID EDITING" messages and would cause a figurative aneurism on a particular web forum board and asked someone who isn't completely harassed to make the corrections for me that it shouldn't be a fucking problem but because Cla68 has presented the findings it means he's allegedly untouchable. The wording of this ban is confusing. We're allowed to make proposals against each other but we can't respond to those proposals?— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 03:56, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * That is correct. You are not allowed to reply. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  04:29, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And this covers other people commenting on his proposals as well? That is I can't speak to someone else on the page if it's in one of his proposal sections?— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 04:36, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I would rather you not comment on the comments to Cla's proposals -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  06:19, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * And let me just clarify this again, all of my interactions with Cla68 in this case (outside of the fact that he first said he'd participate by presenting evidence given to him by other users who have reached the evidentiary limit and I thought this was improper) because I have felt he has been personally attacking me with the constant mentions of what he has been alleging is paid editing. His actions have been to repeat those allegations over and over. The interaction ban you've put in place has effectively given him parliamentary privilege to continue to repeat these harassing statements so long as they're in the context of presenting anything at arbitration and allow him free reign in making these statements outside of arbitration, as he has done in response to your notification that you imposed the ban in the first place.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 04:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 24 December 2014

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"If the community can resolve this"
You've used a similar phrase in declining the Malaysia Airlines case. I'll have you note that the community has failed to resolve it for months, after numerous ANI threads, numerous other noticeboard threads, and a DRN case. Previously, administrators refused to enforced DS, or said that they were afraid to do so. AE will not be any different. If you decline, I will not submit an AE request, because no AE request can be submitted that will be successful. This is not a problem with individual editors, but with systematic editorial issues. Targeting one individual editor in AE request is a recipe for disaster, and will result in more bad blood and spillover into other Ukraine crisis-related articles. The camps will grow more entrenched, and the dispute will fester. Perhaps it will move to other articles, but it will not end. This has already been going on since July. If one keeps trying at the same thing a million times, one is still going to get the same result. RGloucester — ☎ 01:45, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I would rather try a way of solving this dispute than dismiss it out of hand because the participants think it will fail. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  02:32, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You're free to try, but you shan't get any of the participants, nor me, to submit an AE request. It will fail, just as the attempt at enforcement of the DS by TParis failed. The dispute will continue, unless a third party reviews the systematic problems occurring here. Battleground AE requests are what'll you'll get, and they won't solve anything. RGloucester  — ☎ 02:34, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Flight 17 request for case
Perhaps I should comment on your talk page here rather than at the case request so that my statement there doesn't get too long (if that's fine, I'll remove my comment over there). You stated that you'd like to see if this can be resolved by Jan 1st and mentioned WP:AE. I think that's the right view. I just wanted to note that most of the "bad behavior" (particularly by ... nevermind) occurred a month or two ago. By this point, bringing it to WP:AE would only serve to re-inflame the battleground atmosphere. Provided that such behavior does not resume I think it might be best to just leave it alone for now. Provided that such behavior does not resume. The article itself is stable and in fairly good shape, even the recent talk page discussions have been more civil. The recent DRN request was filed by a fly-by-night, newly created single purpose account, and we haven't heard from them ever since they filed a case (which suggests the DRN request itself wasn't filed in good faith, since the user didn't bother to participate). I doubt (and hope) that there will be disruptive behavior before January 1st.Volunteer Marek (talk) 01:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The contents of the WP:DRN case itself shows "bad behaviour", which is why it failed. RGloucester  — ☎ 01:54, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If this is true then it is another reason why full arbitration is not needed at this time -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  02:38, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Arbitration might be needed in the future, but not now.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2014 (UTC)