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Flesherton, Ontario
Thank you very much for your additions to this article, it's great to see people like yourself contributing to improving the historical context available in articles about smaller communities here in Southern Ontario. thanks again, cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 04:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation
Hi there. It's going back a bit, but in this edit, and again with this edit you added a links to a pirate website with a direct link to download a copy of copyrighted material being hosting without permission. Note you cannot put links on Wikipedia to pirated material like that. See WP:COPYRIGHT for more details. thetrove is a piracy site that hosts without owners permission. Do not link to the site again. Thanks. Canterbury Tail talk 18:55, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Error on my part, thanks for bringing these to my attention.Guinness323 (talk) 22:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * These were quite some time ago, so yeah. More of a slight trout than anything else. Canterbury Tail talk 22:27, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Paul F. J. Eagles
Hello I don't know what you're saying but the guy is notable. The standard at AFC and NPP to be an academic, you must have more than 6 papers with 100 citations. He has 22 papers well above 100 citations, making him eminently notable. Don't revert it.  scope_creep Talk  23:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Regardless of standards elsewhere, this is Wikipedia, and the standards for academic notability are laid out at Notability (academics). Here's an excerpt:

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 * Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable. Academics meeting none of these conditions may still be notable if they meet the conditions of WP:BIO or other notability criteria. The merits of an article on the academic will depend largely on the extent to which it is verifiable.


 * The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. [Editorial content by me: Note it does NOT say HOW MANY papers the person has published, only the impact the papers have made, and that impact has to be noted by reliable independent sources.]
 * The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
 * The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers).
 * The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.
 * The person has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon.
 * The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.
 * The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.
 * The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.

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 * If you have reliable sources that indicate the subject meets any ONE of the above criteria, add them to the article. Otherwise, the subject cannot be considered to be a notable academic. I'll give you or other editors a couple of days to rustle up some reliable sources to indicate only one of the above criteria before I revert.Guinness323 (talk) 00:23, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know what reason you are rabbiting about this is. Have you got something against the guy? There is only one reason an editor is in this position, is that that you have interacted with the subject in someway. Is that is what happened? I'm only using the skills I've from another processor, specifically the paper citations, but if you think your right, you crack on, after that it will be page protection and then it will be the admin noticeboard.   scope_creep Talk  12:16, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have nothing personal against this subject, have never met him or interacted with him, wouldn't know him if I passed him the street. The discussion is about whether this article meets the requirements of notability regarding academics. It is not enough for an editor to insist he is a notable academic, the editor also has to prove it with citations from reliable sources. So far, the article has only two citations. One lists his position and ten papers (but not what impact they have had in his field of study). The other quotes him in response to an environmental story. Neither provides any proof that he is a notable academic.Guinness323 (talk) 17:18, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank's for posting that Afd. That is the best way of deciding it. I do think he is notable and posted a keep entry. I believe that most articles undergo a process where they can be improved over a long period of time. I've seen several articles in the last 10 that have started from nothing and been restructured by repeated work over months or years to be something quite excellent. It will happen to this as well. I thought that other editor.  scope_creep Talk  17:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

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Product reviews
Per WP:PRODUCT you may prefer to place product reviews in existing dedicated articles, and not duplicate them into the company's article if the only mention of the company is to credit it as the manufacturer. This might be seen as WP:REFBOMBing. Chetsford (talk) 19:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Given the relationship between NORG and NCREATIVE, Chet, I don't think you should present your personal POV as if it had policy WEIGHT. Perhaps you should remember these AfD outcomes Just a suggestion. ;) Newimpartial (talk) 20:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I certainly remember those. However, in this case, although I disagree with Chetsford on a good many topics, I am going to have to agree with this one, at least in the sense that product reviews in and of themselves don't necessarily add much to an article about a company. That said, sometimes the reviewer does comment on the publisher and/or the designer a bit, and in those cases I think including a bit from the product review becomes a good idea. In this case, I think if you want to trim the review section a bit and work it into a section about the Silhouette system (which does not have its own article), that might be a good idea? BOZ (talk) 20:24, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Guinness323, does that seem like a reasonable solution? BOZ (talk) 03:26, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I had actually come to the same conclusion, just had a busy couple of days with little time for editing. I have cut the review by two thirds, leaving only review of the two main game settings, not the supplements.Guinness323 (talk) 04:19, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. I think if we can say more about the Silhouette system (which the article previously did not say much about), then I think the review as it stands really does help the article. :) BOZ (talk) 11:48, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Finding old reviews
I am always happy to improve my BEFORE repertoire. How do you find those old board game reviews? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 00:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't have a fixed formula, but there are several sites that often list old reviews. Grognard.com (ed. James Grohe) has been up for several decades, and over that time has amassed a huge amount of information about games and gaming, some of it indexed by title. BoardGameGeek sometimes lists reviews. Likewise the German site luding.org sometimes indexes has game reviews, as does the French website Guide du Roliste Galactique. And then there's the blunt force method of weeding through Google hits using a variety of terms. It is frustrating because I remember reading old fanzines and magazines and newspaper articles and family magazines with games articles but all of it is gone. So much material from the 1960s and 1970s has been lost because paper magazines and fanzines were destroyed before the age of scanning. I have a fairly large collection, but when I think of the stuff I threw out or gave away to friends years ago... Guinness323 (talk) 03:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks. I do hope some of that stuff will be found and rescued, but some 'fanzines' and like wouldn't pass WP:RS anyway, just like today we wouldn't count some blog reviews or such. It's a tough call sometimes what makes a RS here, I mean, there are those popular youtube channels with reviews these days, but they are self-published and in a video format and probably not 'reliable', sigh. (On a side note, I am surprised we don't have an entry on The Dice Tower, it's likely notable, even if perhaps not reliable...). <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  04:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know of a resource that compiles reviews for board games (BGG does not, to my knowledge), but for RPGs both RPGnet and RPGgeek list known magazine reviews of products on individual product pages; I do not always remember to check both, because one will often list reviews that the other does not. I wish that I knew of such a resource for board games. BOZ (talk) 04:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

FITS (board game) - notability?
Also ping User:BOZ. For some reason, I keep thinking this may be notable (possibly I am thinking about one of many games named after similar acronyms, however). One thing going for it - it was nominated for SdJ, that's something, but not enough. BGG page states it won only one award (2010 Golden Geek Best Abstract Board Game Winner). Again, I doubt that's enough. But I can't find any good sources. No de wiki page. How about you guys? Anything? Or should I just go ahead and PROD it? Or maybe AfD, given it won something? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It has a lot of high profile nominations in 2009/2010:

2010 JoTa Best Family Board Game Nominee 2010 Golden Geek Best Family Board Game Nominee 2010 Golden Geek Best Abstract Board Game Winner 2010 Golden Geek Best Abstract Board Game Nominee 2009 Spiel des Jahres Nominee 2009 Spiel der Spiele Hit für Familien Recommended 2009 Golden Geek Most Innovative Board Game Nominee 2009 Golden Geek Best Party Board Game Nominee 2009 Golden Geek Best Family Board Game Nominee 2009 Golden Geek Best Children's Board Game Nominee 2009 Meeples Choice Award nominee

Spiel des Jarhes is perhaps the top annual prize in gaming, so being nominated as one of the top 5 games of the year in two different categories is notable.

Then there's also all of these reviews, mostly from Europe:

FITS - review (mlodygiercownik.pl) 2 years ago Review · Polish German review: 4Players.de (www.4players.de) 7 years ago Review · German French review on Jeux de NIM: Fits (www.jeuxdenim.be) 7 years ago Review · French Review of FITS by Casual Game Revolution (casualgamerevolution.com) 7 years ago Review · English Portuguese Review with Rules explanation on dreamwithboardgames (dreamwithboardgames.blogspot.pt) 7 years ago Review, Rules · Portuguese French & Dutch rules (spelarch.khbo.be) 9 years ago Rules · Dutch · French Dutch review on speldatabase.be (speldatabase.be) 9 years ago Review · Dutch German review - Ratgeberspiel (www.ratgeberspiel.de) 10 years ago Review · German German review - das-spielen.de (das-spielen.de) 10 years ago Review · German German review - Cliquenabend (www.cliquenabend.de) 10 years ago Review · German German review - games we play (gamesweplay.de) 10 years ago Review · German German review - FAIRspielt (www.fairspielt.de) 10 years ago Review · German German review - Ludoversum (gesellschaftsspiele.spielen.de) 10 years ago Review · German German review - Spielmonster (www.surrealist.de) 10 years ago Review · German German Session Report on Westpark Gamers (www.westpark-gamers.de) 10 years ago Session · German

I don't have time to work on it this weekend, but could add some of these to the article Monday. I'd say between the Spiele des Jahres nomination and the reviews, there's enough to indicate notability.Guinness323 (talk) 06:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I am in no hurry, but my concern is that a) in most topics in general, award nominations tend not to be seen as sufficient for notability, even if they are many, unless the awards are super famous so that nominations are enough. I don't think even SdJ qualifies here b) reviews need to be from RS. And since you linked Polish one first - this seems just like random blog, no evidence this is written by multiple people with any peer review involved. So while I think we should try to save this, there is the possibility the result will be just not sufficient. But in this case, given your review above, I'd do AfD, not PROD, anyway. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

AfD or not?
I'd appreciate your thoughts about the following board games were PRODs were recently declined: Switch 16‎, Entropy (1994 board game), Supremacy (1940 board game)‎, Fields of Action‎, Malarkey (board game)‎, Spaceopoly‎, Space Hop‎, Posse: Thirteen Against One‎, and the game publishers Take on You‎ and Universal Games‎. No hurry. Do ping me if you reply here. Cheers, --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:31, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have agreed to teach a short course at our local college, which will limit my usual Wikipedia activities until mid-March. I will try to give each of these a thorough look as soon as I am able.Guinness323 (talk) 17:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Just checking to see if you had time to look at any of the titles I brought up? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I confess this slipped my mind with all the other AfDs recently. I'll give them a look over the next couple of days. Guinness323 (talk) 06:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have taken a very quick look, and can't find sources for anything other than Switch 16. There may be something out there for some or all of them, but it's not immediately apparent. Guinness323 (talk) 00:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks. How about the SW linked below? I was really surprised to find nothing, my gut feeling is telling me there should be something out there. Big franchise, the title is 'know' as an interesting and expensive collectible among some gamers I talked too... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:27, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

The Succession Wars
Anything you can dig out for this? I'd like to save this but... (trivia: I actually own a copy). --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I have taken a quick search, even dived into some usually reliable German and Austrian sources, but was not able to find any RS reviews or descriptions. Unusual, I typically can find at least a couple of sources for a 1987 game... Guinness323 (talk) 22:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Deadlands Noir?
Hi there. We haven't been formally introduced, but I've seen your coordinating convos with BOZ. Anyway, given some of your recent edits, I wondered if you had any interest in working on Deadlands Noir? I was gnoming some genre categories recently, and was really feeling the absence of an article about that game, but my Pinnacle-awareness is fairly close to zero. Is there any chance you might be interested in moving that up your list of priorities? There should be some reviews, I would think, and it was an interesting genre statement when it was published. Anyway, no pressure - just hoping to plant a seed so I don't have to do it all myself. :) Newimpartial (talk) 17:30, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * My specialty is more of the 1970s-1990s era, but I took a look, and I question whether there is enough for a standalone article. Several podcasts and videocasts about it, but those won't be considered RS. One review here that might be considered RS, another one on rpg.net here but not much else. (I assume Kickstarter articles are considered primary sources.) Cool idea for a game though. Guinness323 (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah; Kickstarter would never be independent, sad to say. And anything too recent for Designers & Dragons poses more problems for sourcing than most RPGs before 2014. Thanks for the two reviews, and maybe I'll try building something up from the publisher page or one of the other game lines. Newimpartial (talk) 22:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I know...
Re this. The source is not reliable but it makes an interesting point and there are next to no refs. I'd prefer restoring it and adding unreliable source... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:40, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Phoenix (wargaming magazine)
This one was deleted at AFD in 2013. You have cited it here and there for wargames reviews; if you think you can find the sources to salvage it, I would put it in draft space for you. Until then, I have put it on my huge list of deleted games-related articles to look at in the future. :) BOZ (talk) 21:44, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I have too much on my non-Wikipedia plate to take this on at the moment. Let's hold it in abeyance until such time as I can do a proper job on sources. Guinness323 (talk) 06:35, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, I suspected as much; still, I didn't want to forget about it. :) There are many others that may be worth looking at bringing back, but this one jumped out at me. BOZ (talk) 10:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Iirc that magzine was started by Malcolm Watson -- the founder of SPUK -- after SPI went under. I knew him quite well and so must still have some copies. Finding reviews in contemporary sources would be quite a chore but I'll put it on my mental to-do list and keep my eyes open. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:22, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

I finally moved this one to draft space, in case you do have anything for it! BOZ (talk) 06:51, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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Starstone again
I've been DMing Troubles at Embertrees which I've converted to 5e recently (players love it) - I recall what you said about Starstone but were any of the three segments particularly good or all merely okay.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:09, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It's been a number of years, but as I recall, all of them were okay, but required a lot of reading and prep by the DM -- there's a lot of NPCs with backstories that can connect into the plot or interact in various ways with the PCs. Guinness323 (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, have found that with the Embertrees module - just to get my head around everything going on...on plus side, technology means I can blow up a digital version of the module to large size so I can read the goddamn thing easily (WD magazines would print modules in really tiny print....) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:38, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

thanks for saving Avalanche (marble game)!
i didn't even remember that i started that article, i just got the notice about it's deletion and felt sad about it. thank you for saving a childhood memory! sofia (talk) 15:05, 19 November 2022 (UTC)