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Batik information
I think we do not need to cover World Batik summit in the article. I do not want to use the article as a platform for a political/economic propaganda. It blurs the article focus. We already mentioned it is supported by Gov't in popularity section. I am passionate about batik, for 3 generations my family had worked on batik. Thou my father decided not to continue the business and now he's too old. The gov't should not be meddling too much on artisan's work and let creativity flow. It should help, but don't meddle too much. I don't like how Mari is targeting batik production, she's not aiming for quality product, only quantity for sale. Good things happen to good people, so do good (talk) 15:58, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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Image for Majapahit
Dear Gunkarta, Thanks for making updates to Majapahit Empire. Can you fix/remove/adjust the image? It's badly harming the page. In the future, please don't leave a change if it's fouled up like that. Cheers, --Smilo Don 19:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Dear Gunkarta, on second thought, I really object to the map. Please see the talk page.  Maybe you can discuss it there?  Talk:Majapahit Empire Sorry for the strong objection--I don't mean to discourage your contribution, but this type of map really touches a nerve. --Smilo Don 20:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing on WP; Majapahit
Dear Gunkarta, Thanks so much for getting involved with Wikipedia. Understandably, you feel strongly about Majapahit, but please respect the Talk page. You can reopen the discussion, but you can't just decide to ignore it. Personally, I don't even think the map should be included in its current form, but the other editors prevailed. As a compromise, a note was put on the map to note that it can't be completely relied upon. Please have a look at the the Welcome above, and have a look at WP:3RR. Don't worry--many editors are sympathetic to your position about the Majapahit. Just make your case on the Talk page and WP:3RR before editing the map's caption any more. Cheers, --Smilo Don 18:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Image alignment
Instead of revert warring on aligning image to the left in Raden Wijaya article, could you please learn WP:MOS, especially Manual_of_Style? Thanks. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 08:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Categories
When constructing articles - better a stub tab or if you know exactly which ones - categories - at the bottom of the page are good insurance - in more ways than one - and also the Indonesian project tag on the discussion page - it will keep various issues at bay if you can place them as soon as you are editing the article in mainspace SatuSuro 00:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

RatuBoko
Is definitely a contestable article - it first read like a non english speakers lift from a cerita rakyat - the now available scholarship makes some of the claims by the unsourced argument questionable - i just never got back to do a re-write (too many projects in hand) - cheers SatuSuro 01:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
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Your image inserted in Borobudur
Gunkarta, why do you always push images you uploaded here should be included in an article? Borobudur has a lot of images already in Commons:Category:Borobudur. We pick pictures that relate to the text given in the article. Could you please read again Wikipedia guidelines, esp: Guide_to_layout. There states: You should always be watchful not to overwhelm an article with images by adding more just because you can. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 07:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
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Picture of the Week
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Image copyright problem with Image:Gajah Mada.jpg
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Commons...
Hello there. You seem to be uploading a number of pics to wikipedia. Have you thought of adding these to "commons" instead? It's my strong recommendation this is a better way to go for any future uploads. It's where I put my photos for wikipedia. One photo can be used easily across a number of wikipedia's - ie, Indonesian, Javanese, Japanese, whichever. It's the same process to upload - in fact it may be easier. This is the upload page. Once it is uploaded, you simply link it into the article the way you are doing now. Any questions, please let me know. --Merbabu (talk) 00:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

References...
Please do not add anything to wikipedia without reliable references. This means scholarly content, not lower quality sources. Also, in-line cites are far more useful, in fact, a general list of references is not so helpful. I know you are not the only one so please don't take offense. Ie, i notice this change. Keep up the good work. regards --Merbabu (talk) 04:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please ensure that all info has very good references. This is a fundamental and non-negotiable principle of wikipedia, which will continued to be demanded. Info added without references should be removed immediately. thanks. --Merbabu (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

"See also" sections
...sorry, another thing. It's not wikipedia practice to repeat a link in a "See Also" section if the link is already in the article. Ie, regarding these changes], we don't need Sailendra or Borobudur in See also, because they are listed in the article. cheers. --Merbabu (talk) 04:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Prambanan
Info berasal di mana? looks like a copy vio - where does it come from - how come no citations? mohon maaf kalau says kurang sopan - but we need to identify sources SatuSuro 00:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

You will find another editor might want to revert all of your edits unless you either - cite your source, or make an effort to identify the text/web page from which you are either copying or looking at SatuSuro 08:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya - bahasa asli saya inggeris - tak apa apa tentang buku asli - saya bisa tambah nanti - maaf kalau saya kurang sopan atau meganggu SatuSuro 08:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

May 2008
This is english wikipedia - that is WP EN, it really does look like you need to stick with WP IN - bagaimana?

When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, tetapi saya harus coba bahasa saya - sudah banyak kesalahan dan kasar untk membuat keterangan tentang WP EN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Majapahit&diff=215741834&oldid=215491696 Reverence - sama dengan bersembah, atau dalam bahasa Jawa - pundhi - untuk give respect to - dalam WP EN, if you put any statement into an article - it needs a reference - source - citation- sebab dalam WP EN - we have WP:N, WP:RS, WP:V, and we want to know where the information came from.

Please consider whether you would prefer maybe WP IN better? Thank you SatuSuro 00:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that's my mistake...., often miss-type f to v... thanks for you correction...

What is wikipedia not all about
''Can you do it more nicely without humiliating or patronizing other contributors? Oh yeah, I want to congratulate you for suceed to become one of my least favourite person here in wikipedia.'' - found at Merbabu Talk page.
 * (edit conflict)"D'oh..! Its commonly known that Indonesian motto Bhinneka Tunggal Ika was originated in Sutasoma poem by Mpu Tantular, I haven't met the reverence yet, why user: Merbabu soo rigid about reverence." Apart from being uncivil, your edit summary suggests you still don't understand wikipedia fundamentals. I've seen on Indonesia wikipedia that "common knowledge" is the criteria for inclusion, but not on en. No reference, no addition, no arguments. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 12:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there - mungkin itu - kesalahan terlalu besar? Kalau bisa - try to be more polite - sopan - because in Wikipedia EN - we have some rules WP:AGF and others - if you dont like your mistakes being corrected - maybe you should edit at WP:IN ?

If you feel humiliated, patronized by an editor - there are possibly issues that you need to consider - if your english is not going well - maybe you could consider improving WP:IN - rather than having problems at WP:EN. SatuSuro 09:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear, Satu Suro and Merbabu..., thank you for your suggestion for me to get back to WP:IN, and enlightening me in WP fundamentals. But no thanks, I still want to do more contributions to WP:EN as well as in WP:IN. Soo you can expect me to lurking around here in many WP:EN articles, you're all welcome to edit my terrible english or any my unreferenced source anytime. Just bring it on.

I admit there's some of my mistakes I've done here. But I can see that some editor here are realy hmm..., too rigid about reference. If that what WP:EN fundamental is, well what can I say..? my mistakes. However, can you fill in the request for reference rather than rushing to "overkill" an article by erasing or undo it, because its not a mistake at all that Bhinneka Tunggal Ika was taken from Sutasoma book from Majapahit era. Your deletion of "unreferenced truth" has made me snap. Toned down your somewhat 'patronizing' comments, and I'll try to be more "civilized" too. Btw, I haven't dig my old Pendidikan Moral Pancasila text book to gave requested reference, then again..., whatever lah... Therefore I'll try to enrichen my reference sorce and perfected my english, thus try my best NOT to have any problems or any business with you both, or felt being humiliated or patronized by you all "kuncen sesepuh" here in WP:EN. Cheers and Goodbye, <(Gunkarta (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)). 208.110.17.141 (talk) 09:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You seem to not understand what wikipedia is about - try reading through a welcome page again and stop trying to place blame on those who wish to correct you - that is a very small picture view - the wikipedia project is the bigger picture - you have to understand if we did not try to help you - then there are other editors who would do it with less politeness than we try - orang sudah kasar - tampah bahasa atau understanding of where you are coming from - and then you would really want to leave.

If you want to add to items in the Wikipedia english project - you will have to live with issues of WP:RS. WP:N. WP:V - if you do not like that - you will continue to have problems - if not with us - then with others - try to get away from blame - and either get on with editing - or put up - cheers SatuSuro 09:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Whatever.., Thanks to get "easy" on me. (Btw, I hardly can't understand your Bahasa Indonesia "gado-gado" with english, please stick to communicate with your perfect english, I'll try my best to understand with my terrible-defective-broken english.)

OK, I got your message, I'll try to stay away from trouble and try not to have any problems here in WP:EN, meanwhile, I'm gonna bail-out and activate my "ignore mode". Cheers.., Its "nice" knowing you both... Selamat tinggal. (Gunkarta (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)).

Link to KOMPAS?
Dear Gunkarta, I don't suppose you have a link to the Majapahit picture from Kompas?? I tried their search engine and (1) every link is broken, and (2) they don't seem to have the result online. Perhaps you have a direct link? I'm very curious to read the whole story on Kompas. Terima kasih, Smilo Don (talk) 10:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

File moved to Commons
I moved the File:Juanda_Airport_Apron.jpg to the Wikimedia Commons. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Trowulan
Hello Gunawan, although I speak Indonesian I will write in English so other users can understand. I would like to use your beautiful picture of Bajang Ratu gate in French Wikkpedia but am unable to download it into commons. Can you please do it? Anda Djoehana (talk) 10:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Majapahit
I think the fact that Indonesians believe there used to be a political entity dominating the Indonesian archipelago (and more) prior to the coming of Europeans, is a problem. In ancient time, the archipelago hosted many small polities that traded with each other. Sriwijaya and later on Majapahit were only the most successful of them in their times, but they did not control the other entities. It was the Dutch who, by territorial and political domination, unified the archipelago into one single entity, deciding that Java should be its centre (they called the other islands "Outer Islands"). 32 years of Soeharto centralism (not mentioning the Soekarno era) showed that centralisation did not work. The current regional autonomy scheme at kabupaten level seems to work, because Indonesia is comint back to its roots! Best regards, Anda Djoehana (talk) 10:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Prambanan/ legends etc
External links are not enough - it looks like one vast copvio - you need to either identify where you got all that text, or at least identify some things with cites - also check for some more possible links if popossible - if that is not too much to ask for :) cheers SatuSuro 07:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'll try to find cites from books... (Gunkarta (talk) 11:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)).

Jangan kwatir - no rush - I think I have a few cerita rakyat books in my storage that have this one - she's a popular gal the slim virgin :) SatuSuro 12:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Kalasan, sari et al - we gonna have to be more careful with inline cites - there are some odd bits creeping in that need more careful citations (Buddhist heaven at Kalasan is an odd one for instance) - cheers SatuSuro 00:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Done..., change to "svargaloka" to avoid confusions with common concept of heaven. -cheers (Gunkarta (talk) 10:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC))

Wow thanks for that - I am sure I have some other refs for kalasan - somewhere - I used to live down the road (west) not far from it for a while SatuSuro 11:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Sambisari
Saya tinggal disana tak jahu dari tempat - banyak tahun yang lalu - dan artikel itu harus cleanup bhs inggeris - some expressions must have citations against them - mudah mudahan gunkarta tak copy terus dari website :( SatuSuro 07:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Wow.. so you have visited the ruins right? Thank you for your edit and english cleanup, I really appreciate that. And no.., I did not copy edit it from some website, most of the data are taken from information board (written in Indonesian) in small office near Sambisari temple that serves as some kinds of "small museum" to display data, maquette, maps, and artifact found in Sambisari vicinity. And sorry, I think my translations is not perfect. Btw I haven't find any books about Sambisari yet, maybe I'll provide more sources of book references and inline quotations later. --cheers... (Gunkarta (talk) 11:51, 31 May 2009 (UTC)).

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Maps at Files for deletion/2009 July 31
Hi, I am processing some images nominated for deletion at Files for deletion/2009 July 31. I am gathering from what I read here that you created these maps for your employer. Unfortunately, that does mean that your employer owns the copyright. You asked this question: "if Somebody wants to upload the map like this, or any other maps or images that being published by certain media. Recreate it and translate it to english. What can be done to make this legal in wiki?" I would like to attempt to answer that. There is nothing that you can do to a work owned by someone else to make it your own. Anything you do to a picture that someone else owns the copyright to is only a "derivative work" so we can't use that without their permission. We do have, however, a very large number of blank maps available at Blank_maps and Commons:Category:Blank maps. Any map that you find there is either public domain or has been released under a license that allows modification. You need to make sure that if you make a map derived from one of these, you provide a link to the map that it is based on and use the same license that the map you used has. I hope that helps. --B (talk) 21:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry
didnt meant to pick on an article by you at all - just the general state of edit warring on big stuff and the little stuff going un checked leaves me with a wide scope of tagging almost everything at the moment - meant to have december wikipedia free.... but.... SatuSuro 13:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That's OK, I understand the principle of wikipedia about references and favouring sourced materials. However yes, I find is alarming about the war-edit and major deletions by some of wikipedians, although I might find some of the data is acceptable and true (well, some wikipedians might pass as an iron-fisted tyrant). Can I remove the unsourced and unreferenced tag on Dyah Pitaloka Citraresmi now? (Gunkarta (talk) 13:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC))

btw - would you be able to help with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kue_Keranjang at all? It would be appreciated if you could - thanks SatuSuro 13:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Nusantara
Hello there. Further to our discussion on Nusantara, I have found an English language reference for it being beyond Indonesian borders, and I have included it in the article. Given that Indonesia-only definition is from the esteemed Echols and Shadily dictionary, I believe that it should stand also. I think both can stand the way it is written – ie, both definitions have enough legitimacy, and the existence and difference of both should be acknowledged. regards --Merbabu (talk) 23:46, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Indonesia World Cup
I've suspected for a while now that Indonesia was only bidding for the 2022 World Cup, and not both that and the 2018 one. But I couldn't find a solid source to say that, they all assume Indonesia's doing both. Is there an article or website that says this? Anyway, I'll change the map next time I get a chance.-- Patrick {o Ѻ ∞} 19:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

2011 SEA Games Logo
Thanks! I thought it was the final logo already, because it had the features that were supposed to be found in the logo according to a description from a news report. isagani 02:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Surya Majapahit
Please - it looks great but - no links and no WP :RS - trust you are able to find some refs!!!! SatuSuro 00:38, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll try to search reference book, however most of Surya Majapahit informations is first-hand infos from museum exhibit in Jakarta and Trowulan. Rarely books about Majapahit mention specificly about this sun emblem. Surya Majapahit itself is recently re-popularized by the Trowulan Museum'a controversial development of "Majapahit Information Center", the new building took form of Majapahit sun emblem but unfortunately destroyed some of Trowulan site. (Gunkarta (talk) 12:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC))

Gunkarta
go to Talk:Indonesia--Sweetmistery (talk) 06:25, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

(since blocked as sock SatuSuro 00:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC))

Stub
Maritime museum is no longer a stub - why did you put the tag on a start article? SatuSuro 00:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry... go ahead remove it (Gunkarta (talk) 08:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)).

Done - Please please make an effort to get more WP:RS when starting stubs - the trowulan museum is an exceptionally important place - please try more than just one web ref. SatuSuro 10:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I know.., sometimes I can be such a lazy bum... Neway.. Matur Nuwun... thank you very much for your effort expanding and providing references on Trowulan Museum... Greatly appreciated! =) (Gunkarta (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)).

Tak apa apa - jangan kwatir - saya suka mencari kata kata tentang hal itu :) nuwun SatuSuro 11:38, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

National Museum (Indonesia)
Hi Gunkarta. You add lots of info for National Museum (Indonesia) but you forgot to put the reference for it. Can you put a reference so that it will become a good article. Thanks! I moved the travel information to the discussion page, because it sounds to touristy and less encyclopedish. --Rochelimit (talk) 16:00, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll try to put some references...(Gunkarta (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)).

Please
When going to that effort of creating new articles at least put the indonesian and biography tags on the talk page -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayanegara it shows up as a dumbo on alexbot - and is less likely to be defended by the project in general if issues arise and if the tags are not put in....

DYK for Pustakasala

 * Thank you. (Gunkarta (talk) 15:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)).

Hyang
Sources please :( SatuSuro 06:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I admit much of the knowledge of the subject "hyang" is based on commons native knowledge and linguistical link "hyang" in Kawi, Javanese, Sundanese, and Balinese language. Literatures concerning native animism and early Hinduism of Indonesia explaining the "hyang" concept is rare. Yet I found it is the important part of ancient Indonesian "religion" and belief systems. I will try to provide sources, as soon as possible. (Gunkarta (talk) 10:04, 3 May 2010 (UTC))
 * That is very close to WP:OR and that is not a very good space to be in - kalau bisa mencari satu atau dua WP:RS all is saved :) mohon maaf saya menganngu tentang ini :|SatuSuro 11:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * One small problem is - it is also a korean word - so some search engines are a pointless effort SatuSuro 13:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah... I had encounter that Korean name too. I'll try to find old books on Sundanese culture. Hope some reference on hyang will come up (Gunkarta (talk) 13:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)).
 * OK - have found two interesting links Dang_Hyang_Nirartha and [] - will let you know of more as i find them - - please feel free to use in any way see fit - kalau cocok - baik SatuSuro 13:46, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.planetmole.org/daily/batara-guru-and-the-world-of-gods-java-indonesia.html another SatuSuro 13:59, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

3RR Violation
You are in violation of WP:3RR. This can lead to your account being temporarily blocked. Please restore the previous version of the article Manila or I will consider reporting you for said violation. Lambanog (talk) 16:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You are the one that started the reverting battle, and now framed me? That's dirty (Gunkarta (talk) 16:37, 13 May 2010 (UTC)).

article enhancements
yr welcome. great contribution. try to catch that book by kawilarang. must be available in jakarta bookshops. kind regards, KARL --KARL RAN (talk) 02:22, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Art Deco
Thank you for structuring the examples by their geographic location. The section had formerly grown into a wall of text which is now much easier to read. --MikeZ (talk) 20:10, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Keong Emas
Hello Gunkarta, and thanks for this interesting article. Please, could you cite your sources? Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll try to find it. You're welcome.., and thank you for your kind attention (Gunkarta (talk) 14:12, 3 July 2010 (UTC)).

Garuda Indonesia Destinations
Mas Gunkarta, salam kenal. Garuda Indonesia saat ini secara FISIK tidak menerbangi rute ke Saigon (Ho Chi Minh city), Vietnam. Garuda hanya codeshare dengan Vietnam airlines. Memang benar di website Garuda ada tujuan ke Saigon, tapi kalau anda mencoba untuk book dan lihat schedule, jelas tertulis operating partnernya Vietnam Airlines. Jadi menurut saya yang namanya destination adalah kota dimana Garuda secara fisik menerbangi ke kota tersebut, jadi Garuda saat ini tidak menerbangi Saigon. Harap dicek kembali, terima kasih. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkurniawan (talk • contribs) 02:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oke.. terima kasih atas edit anda...(Gunkarta (talk) 10:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)).

Mas Gunkarta, kalau boleh saya tanya, gimana sih cara buat route map seperti Garuda Indonesia destination map. Pakai software apa ya? Dan dapet plain map nya darimana, apakah mas Gunkarta punya template mapnya yang kosong, belom ada routenya? Hubungi saya di helmikurniawan@gmail.com. Kalo mas Gunkarta tertarik dengan perkembangan Garuda, bisa berkunjung ke indoflyer.net. Terima Kasih.(Hkurniawan (talk) 17:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)).
 * Saya memang bekerja sebagai desainer Infographic di suatu media massa di Indonesia, jadi saya sudah punya (sudah buat) banyak template peta Indonesia dan dunia. Saya pakai program komputer vector graphic Adobe Illustrator CS2. Sebenarnya peta Garuda Indonesia (dan banyak peta sejarah dan kerajaan-kerajaan) yang telah saya buat adalah dalam format SVG, jadi bisa dibuka dan edit dengan berbagai program grafik vektor. Sama-sama... (Gunkarta (talk) 16:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)).

Proposed deletion of Malay folklore


The article Malay folklore has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Truism. Needs a lot more context, possibly expert-attention.

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 * Please delete it, I was meant to create Category:Malay folklore, not Page Malay Folklore (Gunkarta (talk) 11:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)).

Already exists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_(ethnic_group)#Culture - is where malay folklore needs to be added - not as a separate stub unless you can expand it substantially with a large bibliography - cheers SatuSuro 10:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes please delete it, it was accidentally created (silly me) when I was tried to create Category:Malay folklore (Gunkarta (talk) 11:06, 16 July 2010 (UTC)).