User talk:Gunkarta/Archive 02

Pura
Thank you for creating the Pura (Balinese temple) article! I have gone through and made some English language tweaks. It's great to see so much information in a brand new article. It also makes me want to go back to Bali :-) Cheers, — Hex    (❝  ?!  ❞)   22:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you like it. Thank you for your english grammar edits, the article is more pleasant to read now. (^_^) (Gunkarta (talk) 15:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC))

Balinese Hinduism
Hello Gunkarta. I saw your contributions to the Hinduism in Indonesia page. I am currently working on a research paper for Graduate school that will be looking into Balinese Hinduism. Do you know of any good resrouces (books, online, whatever)? The only problem is that I can only read English! I would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks! Jameslunderwood (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)jameslunderwood
 * Only english..? well that's a problem. Most of Balinese religious scripts or Hindu Balinese education textbooks is provided by "Dinas Pendidikan Provinsi Bali" (the Education Council of Bali province government), unfortunately it usually only available in Bali and most them are written in Indonesian or even Balinese language. Most of Bali travel and tourism books often provides a glimpse of Balinese Hindu ceremonies, traditions and festivals; yet it lacks of depth of the subjects and lack of authority to explain religious concept. One of the most comprehensive and authorized Balinese Hinduism online source is the authoritative Parisada Hindu Dharma Indonesia and to lesser extent Babad Bali.com. Parisada Hindu Dharma Indonesia is the most authoritative Hindu Balinese Council in today Indonesia, however (unfortunately) the site also written in Indonesian language. Hope that help. (Gunkarta (talk) 12:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)).


 * Gunkarta, thanks for the information. I will look into some of the travel literature at least.  And I will try Google Translate on thaose Bali and Indonesian sites.  I greatly appreciate your help.  Much thanks.  Jameslunderwood (talk) 17:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)jameslunderwood

DYK
Hello! Your submission of Pura (Balinese temple) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Sunda Kingdom
If there isnt an article that has the details - there should be text in the main part of the new category (ie something like the Sundanese Kingdom existed between xxxx and xxxx ) - as there have been some marvellous inventions about Sundanese history and culture over time on WP en - you might help by putting dates - and an aka - Sundanese Kingdom - reads better in english.. cheers SatuSuro 13:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well.., I reluctant to call them as "inventions", probably more as new "interpretations". It has to be supported by references (inscriptions, manuscripts, or interpretation by historians such as Pleyte, Soekmono or Ayatrohaedi) to be reliable and presentable. The problem with the word "Sunda" is there is actually a kingdom named "Prahajyan Sunda" (Kingdom of Sunda) (as mentioned in Sanghyang Tapak inscription, and Sunda later become the name of Sundanese ethnics group. In Javanese counterpart, never actually a kingdom named "Java Kingdom", Java always associated with Java island or Javanese people. Javanese Kingdom could be Medang, Kediri (historical kingdom), Singhasari, Majapahit, or even Mataram Sultanate. If you refer to "Sundanese Kingdom" (kingdom of Sundanese people), it may also cover Tarumanagara and Galuh as well, to some extent also may include Banten and Cirebon sultanate. While Sunda actually originated as "Sundapura" the name of the palace or capital in Tarumanagara era, later after the decline of Tarumanagara, it become the name of the kingdom on west bank of Citarum river while the east bank of Citarum river is identify as Galuh (read Tarumanagara and Sunda Kingdom for detail). Later both twin kingdoms (Sunda and Galuh) is unified and identified as single entity Sunda kingdom. I would like to identify Sunda kingdom as post Tarumanagara kingdom in Western Java, and pre-Banten and Cirebon Sultanate. I would like to separate and differ the term "Sunda kingdom" and "Sundanese kingdom" (Gunkarta (talk) 16:53, 2 August 2010 (UTC)).

DYK for Wonoboyo hoard
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 12:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'm honored.(Gunkarta (talk) 12:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)).

I just want to congratulate you for all of your hard work related to Indonesian archaeology and folklore. You are exactly the sort of specialist that wikipedia needs everywhere on different subjects. It greatly helps eliminate systematic bias by improving coverage archaeology and museums in Indonesia. This is the strength of wikipedia in that it attacts scholars form alla round the world such as yourself to provide their expertise. I find you work very interesting. Kepe up the great work my friend. I live in Wales (but I've done a fair bit of work on Indonesia...  Dr.  Blofeld  - 15:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC) 13:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I really love (well, addicted actually...,) contributing for wikipedia. It's really entertain my "inner-geek" (ehm.., inner-scholar). My pleasure, it is really nice to meet your acquaintance, fellow passionate scholars like you. Btw, I'm an infographic artist working in Indonesian media in Jakarta. Thank you for your coverages, edits, and contributions on Indonesian related articles, greatly appreciated (Gunkarta (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)).

Javanese Mythology
I've created some new stubs on Javanese mythology which I hope you can expand. These are: Babi ngepet, Batara Sambu, Calon Arang, Sundel Bolong, Wewe Gombel. Dr.  Blofeld  - 15:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC) 14:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay..., I'll check them out and try to expand it later. I find it curious that you, a European interested in such spooky black magic Indonesian demonology. The (credible) references books of such subjects is quite rare here, most are those superstitious loaded materials (Gunkarta (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)).

I see! Thanks. Actually I examined your edits and I spotted you editing articles related to Javanese mythology, so I thought I'd transwiki a few to help you out. The evil spirit articles were created purely by chance, maybe some people were afraid to create them! Asian horror is often a terrifying subject. I'v seen some of the Thai horror films for instance. Keep up the great work! Dr.  Blofeld  - 15:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC) 16:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps Warak and Mantyasih Inscription are less scary for you. Dr.  Blofeld  - 15:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC) 19:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The answer to you both is that there are reliable english sources for the ethnographic descirption of these beliefs (and 'beasties') from the dutch era, and from early indonesia area - by such writers as koentjaraningrat 'Javanese culture' and a range of other written (as opposed to web based material) source - and having done fieldwork in central java - I also have a very large bibliograpghy (somewhere) of the all the javanese language materials from about 30 to 40 years ago on these items - but I aint gonna be able to uncover them in the short term - probably the most useful item if you are able to access high quality libraries with good materials - would be NANCY K. FLORIDA, Javanese literature in Surakarta manuscripts; Volume 2; Manuscripts of the Mangku- nagaran palace - as the Mn library has a brilliant selection of the tales - but it is a tortuous trail to find the good indexes/lists of the articles, and even more difficult to find the relevant articles - but they do exist - I have about 150 somewhere - but not accessible for a long time - sorry SatuSuro 10:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Motto
Dear Gunkarta,

You have just deleted a change I had introduced regarding the language status of the Indonesian motto. I am not an Indonesian native speaker, not even very good at it and, as far as Javanese is concerned I can only say "ngomong jowo", what happens to be entirely to be wrong. Looking at the WP article on Indonesia, I was surprised to see the motto presented as Javanese: it is well known that Javanese and Dutch were rejected as a possible national language in the 1920's and as Indonesia does not consider itself a colonial empire ruled by Java Island... Actually I am a native French speaker. So I checked in my Indonesian-French dictionnary (Labrousse) and did not find there any hint of a possible Javanese origin of "Bhinneka tunggal ika": - the three words together are displayed as a single entry, explained as the Indonesian national motto and translated; - bhinneka and ika are presented each separately, translated and said to be borrowed from Sanskrit; - tunggal is translated without any etymological details (what means that it is not borrowed from Sanskrit, Sundanese, Javanese, Arabic, Dutch... and is a pure Malayo-Polynesian words. Therefore it is difficult for me to consider that my change was entirely wrong. As you seem to be proficient in Javanese culture, it is difficult for me to fancy that I can be right against you. The only solution may be that the tunnggal in Indonesian translates as tunggal in Javanese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.90.17.7 (talk) 10:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all Old Javanese (Kawi language) is quite different than modern Javanese language, yet bears soo much similarity and resemblences. Yes, Kawi borrowed much of its vocabulary from Sanskirt, but the remnat of Austronesian language vocabularies still can be found. Yet to state Bhinneka Tunggal Ika as purely sanskirt origin is truly false. Read the article Bhinneka Tunggal Ika for details. Bhinneka: Varied, Tunggal: One, Ika: That. (Gunkarta (talk) 10:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)).

Thank you for your answering quickly. However your answer does not absolutely match myassumptions, for I never pretended the motto being borrowed from Sanskit, but being Indonesian and using three Indonesian words out of which bhinneka and ika are borrowed from Sanskrit and tunggal is Austronesian. My question was: is the word "tunggal" the same in Kawi and in Indonesian?

If I combine the piece of information from my dictionnary and the quotation of the old poem in the article Bhinneka tunggal ika, the answer seems to be yes. But is it politically wise to emphasize the Javanese origin of the motto?

Indonesia
Hi, I've looked through the site you posted on trading voyages to Africa prior to 100 CE and can't find any direct reference to this. It's a rather large site, however, so if I've missed it, please let me know. Thanks. Fell Gleaming talk 11:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've find another sources that mentioned Austronesian speaking people from Indonesia reached and colonize Madagascar and East Africa between 2000 to 1500 years ago. History of Madagascar Lonely Planet.com

Wow
You've been bussy! Keep it up, my friend. Karl --KARL RAN (talk) 19:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers...! :) (Gunkarta (talk) 20:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)).

Prambanan Plain
Having lived next to Sambisari - I do not think it belongs and bordering the Kedu Plain on northwest - either that needs a damned good reference... I would disagree - Merapi slopes and other things get in the way

- also the order of sites - ??? - not alpha - not anything -for the article to look better it needs some obvious reason for the order of the sites - alpha - by location or something... SatuSuro 00:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Ive criss-crossed this terrain by walking or in motorbike, and visited all the temples in the map I've created about Prambanan Plain. sama sama - tetapi banyak tahun lalu - i.e. - same here -  I wish I had taken more photos, but those days were before digital photography!!! - I am sure we will end up with a good article SatuSuro 10:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
Elekhh (talk) 04:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
Elekhh (talk) 04:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Sumatran ethnic groups
In this image: I believe you have the Toba and Angkola the wrong way round. Is Padang marked a different colour for some reason? Minangkabau there, right? Sumbuddi (talk) 18:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, there are definitely sub-divisions of Indonesian ethnic groups, but there is no 'suku Padang', for sure. Maybe it's just supposed to be the city of Padang, but I don't see why they don't mark other major cities too.Sumbuddi (talk) 19:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The 'Batak' label is better now, but it doesn't enter Simalungun or Mandailing. Maybe you could make it 'Batak Peoples', or perhaps mark the border of 'tanah Batak' with a black line. Also I think approximately the northwest corner of the area marked 'Rejang' should be Kerinci, extending into part of the area marked 'Jambi' (this should be mostly Malay - no 'suku Jambi'). Not sure about any 'Palembang' or 'Riau' people either.Sumbuddi (talk) 23:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Merapi
Maybe time imemorial is not encyclopediac! - I do think you need a ref for that - it might seem obvious to you  :) SatuSuro 13:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC) Put some refs in - mohon maaf - at least they are Indonesian :|  SatuSuro 13:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * maaf sekali - they are very old - like me :( - when I lived in Yogya 1995/1996 Plawangan was becoming dangerous to visit - do you know whether they know which directions the current uitbarsting (bahasa belanda), is flowing? the pictures in Australian media suggest the usual south west route SatuSuro 13:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey mas! belum belum - kalau lihat http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=Indonesia&importance=Unknown-Class&quality=Unassessed-Class masih ada terlalu banyak artikel belum siap untuk dapat barnstar ... SatuSuro 13:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Umbulharjo is up higher than Kaliurang from memory - sad news


 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11634824
 * http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/mount-merapi-slays-its-mystic-keeper/story-e6frg6so-1225944401620 SatuSuro 15:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Temples - Candi
I've opened up a discussion on these articles at SS's page. Here. It would be good to hear your thoughts on his page. Let me know if I'm not clear. --Merbabu (talk) 12:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sumatra
You made this addition to Sumatra http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sumatra&diff=298607335&oldid=298322977 - could I ask if you have a source for this? I must confess to having doubts, as Haji is a Moslem title given to a successful pilgrim to Mecca - not a king, but the article states that the monarchy didn't convert till the 13th C. The name of Haji Sumatrabhuji is tagged as needing citation - one by me just now before I looked back through the history, and the other possibly by XoXo. I can only find this name in copy&pastes and mirrors of the article. Probably you know something we don't. Cheers. Peridon (talk) 20:12, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously you do know something we didn't... Thanks for that. My involvement with this stems from a question elsewhere - where someone quoted the article to try to show that Sumatra was named after King thingy. I reckoned it was the other way. (Turns out the people reckon the answer to the question is Victoria Island anyway.) Thanks for the clarification and the ref. Peridon (talk) 20:07, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

helo
kau mau nafikan lagi? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shah 88 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * (Duh.., orang ini tak kenal etika dan sopan santun...) (Gunkarta (talk) 18:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)).

Hahahaha.. I'm with you Gunkarta =)

Mudah mudahan/It is hoped
That you can read and understand WP:3RR very carefully - the edit history at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2010_AFF_Suzuki_Cup&action=history - means someone is being - bodoh - in the end it could be either of you - when you sense an edit war like this - it is much better to try for help/intervention - just like they used to say to me eating alone? (sendirian pak?) was not the norm - edit warring is not the norm - try for 3rd party help/intervention/ go to a noticeboard or walk away - cheers  SatuSuro 02:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Please - if it happens again - that is repeated reverts - stop at 2!!! - dont repeat the revert - terus - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/EW
 * WP:PA or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks - is not allowed - if anyone tries that again - terus - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts SatuSuro 12:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * mongo mas - I always understand the best way to resolve the more irritating potential edit wars is to - walk away - you dont feed the trollish behaviours of others - and they cannot get to you - bit like the famous javanese smile and silence I used to get from some bureaucrats when I lived in yogya - nothing done - cannot be tackled - brilliant tactic if you have the control of your own annoyance :) SatuSuro 13:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

fixed
The article has been protected - usually there is an admin around who can help - cheers SatuSuro 22:58, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't respond. and admin will clean it up. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 13:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I put up an WP:ANI case. --Merbabu (talk) 13:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I knew I always can count on you. (Gunkarta (talk) 17:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)).

please add the picture in Jakarta page
please add the cityscape of Jakarta in the Jakarta's page........--Mikael07 (talk) 13:40, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Mikael - you're back? And asking other people to do edits for you? --Merbabu (talk) 13:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Shah 88
I removed the image you put here. While I agree with the sentiment of not feeding trolls, to slap such an image on someone else's user page seems completely contradictory! He's quiet at the moment, no need to poke him. Kim Dent-Brown  (Talk)  11:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * At first I meant it as a warning sign for everyone else that this user is a pure troll, then again I can understand and agree with your reason, thank you...(Gunkarta (talk) 11:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)).
 * Thanks, I'm glad you understand my point of view! Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk)  11:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

hey gunkarta
you have created the top picture of Jakarta as seen below, as you are better in editing picture, i want you to edit it for once again. in comparison to Manila and Bangkok top picture, Jakarta's top picture is far behind, i don't say it's ugly but maybe you can try to put other good looking pictures in it, i depend on you, thanks before, salam  --Mikael07 (talk) 11:30, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * IMO the Jakarta top picture is okay, maybe adding another good picture will help, but I think Bangkok and Manila picts have way too many images, and I think it's too much and unpleasant to the eyes. (Gunkarta (talk) 11:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC))


 * thanks, yours is far better now, thanks a lot.--Mikael07 (talk) 04:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Indon
I initially replied on my talk page re Indon - but it's now been nominated for speedy deletion. I'd suggest not brining it up with the other editor - ie, don't tell him! cheers --Merbabu (talk) 20:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Calvin Leung Pang-Yun
Hello there! Are you from Indonesia too? Regarding your last message, I just want to let you know that I don't have any problems with Native Indonesians at all. In fact, as you can see, I've developed the Native Indonesian article so much. Once again, please let me know if you encounter any misunderstanding. I've corrected the article Huanna too =) Peace out. --Calvin Leung Pang-Yun (talk) Seattle, February 2011 (Pacific Time) —Preceding undated comment added 03:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC).

Opportunity to comment on Batavia
There is a discussion starting up at Talk:Batavia (disambiguation), that may be of interest to you. The subject is technically a page move discussion, but the purpose of the discussion is to decide where Batavia should redirect. Until earlier today, Batavia redirected to History of Jakarta, but during this discussion, it is redirecting to Batavia (disambiguation). Your comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks for your help. HuskyHuskie (talk) 22:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You are receiving this because you are one of the principal editors of one of the articles that is associated with Batavia (disambiguation). This notice is being posted to all of the top three editors of each of these articles (in terms of total edits), with the following exceptions: This is an attempt to be a neutrally-phrased posting in keeping with the principles of WP:CANVASS. If you find anything in the wording or the manner posted to be a violation of that guideline, please notify me at my talk page.
 * editors who are blocked
 * anonymous IP editors
 * editors who, despite ranking in the top three of edits to an article, have only a single edit to said article

Indonesia football help
Hi. I remembered you were contributing to the 2010 AFF Suzuki Cup article so I thought you could help with an Indonesian football related issue. Jason de Jong was on trials with Sriwijaya, and Filipino news sources claimed he already signed with them and I also put in the article that he signed for them. But apparently he wasn't able to get a contract and I would like to re-edit the article but I'm having a bit of a tough time due to the language of the sources, even with translations. All from the Sriwijaya Post:, , , ,. If you reply, just reply here. Thanks! Banana Fingers (talk) 14:30, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mainly the articles number 1, 2, and 3 of Sriwijaya post tell the optimism that Sriwijaya FC will sign Jason. However in article no. 4 after the tryout the coach Kolev personally express his dislike to de Jong, I don't know what is it precisely about, only the coach express his dissapointment and Sriwijaya FC need a better quality foreign players (probabaly the quality is similar to Indonesian local players, so it is too expensive/not worth it to sign these players). The last articles mentioned that Kolev send home all four tryout foreign players: de Jong and other three Korean players. So I think Jason failed to have Sriwijaya FC contract. (Gunkarta (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC))
 * Thanks! Just another question, for the first article, what does it say about the player, a Chinese player Mu Yong Jie.  Because the other articles talk about three other players but they're all Koreans.  Banana Fingers (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The first article stated that if Sriwijaya FC sign Jason de Jong and he agree with the contract, it is possible that he will replace Mu Yong Jie (Mu Yong Jie currently signed for Sriwijaya FC, if another foreign player were signed, Mu's contract will not be extended). Since all foreign tryout players are rejected by Kolev, I think Mu keep his position for a while. (Gunkarta (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC)).
 * I see. Thanks a lot for the clarification.  Banana Fingers (talk) 16:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

gunkarta...
hei gunkarta apa kabar?, punya facebook ngga'?--Mikael07 (talk) 10:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Mikael - katanya kamu dari Amerika Selatan? Oh, i forgot, kamu bohong, 'kan? --Merbabu (talk) 11:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * bisa minta akun nya ngga'??. merbabu, i indeed stayed in buenos aires for one year in 2009, why?--Mikael07 (talk) 09:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I stayed in Recoleta back then with 3 Dutch friends. :D --Rochelimit (talk) 19:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

List of colonial buildings in Jakarta
Dear Gunkarta, I see you are very passionate with Indonesian history and such. So I would like to invite you to see, and perhaps, complete this small project of mine, 'List of colonial buildings and structures in Jakarta'. I really enjoyed making this one and still editing stuffs e.g. adding coordinates, references, etc. If this article is more or less complete and not problematic (in term of credibility), I'm planning to publish this to Wikipedia, otherwise it shall remain in my little page, just for me to enjoy. :-) --Rochelimit (talk) 19:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Need your help
Hey gunkarta, i need your help, Talk:Jakarta, thanks--Mikael07 (talk) 12:28, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Ketemuan
Calendar is OUT Siska.Doviana (talk) 12:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Indonesia–Japan relations
Hey, several of the footnotes that you use in Indonesia–Japan relations are Harvard footnotes, which means that they need the full citation of the books in works cited section. I imagine you grabbed some of that information from some other places, would you mind retriveing the bibliographic data? Sadads (talk) 01:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

seal of the RI president
does the Indonesian president have a new seal? in documents and state gazettes they still use the old star emblem, from the Sukarno era, if i'm not mistaken.

great effort you've made on putting state emblems in .svg version! big kudos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.136.234.122 (talk) 03:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Gunkarta
could you please expand the economy and demography section in Jakarta page? i find that other people just prefer adding unnecessary pictures to expanding the short paragraphs like those in economy and demography sections. Please!--Mikael07 (talk) 01:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Keep up the good work!


Thanks a lot. I hope to get the backlog down to 1000 before I go to Lampung next week. While I don't have any asinan Betawi, I do have these cookies we can share. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC) Crisco 1492 has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Gereja Santo Yoseph
Very beautiful, notice how similar they are side by side in the list :) --Rochelimit (talk) 14:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Oops...
Sorry - i didn't even notice this. Must have hit rollback by accident. regards --Merbabu (talk) 11:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Monas Independence Room
Mas Gunawan, saya lihat Mas pergi ke Museum Sejarah Nasional di Monas bulan Oktober yang lalu. Waktu ambil foto Independence Room ada sempat ambil foto Bendera Pusaka ngga? Menurut Crisco 1492‎, bendera itu udah dipindah ke Monas, tapi saya ngga tahu sejak kapan. Mungkin Mas pernah lihat pada bulan Oktober? — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 18:04, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Terima kasih banyak, Mas. Saya pikir karena belum ada berita, Bendera Pusaka juga mungkin sampai sekarang belum dipindah, ya. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 09:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Borobudur image license
Hi! I'd love to show an image of yours,, in an upcoming conference talk about a lens flare rendering technique (to a computer graphics audience). However, this talk will also contain other copyrighted material, so I would hereby like to ask you to release me from the "share-alike" paragraph for this particular use of the image. I will gladly give full attribution, of course. Kind regards, Mbhsb (talk) 03:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Matthias

Nasi Tim
Thanks for the information added man, I appreciate it. Calvin Marquess (talk) 15:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hello! Could you write an article about my town - Żagań on Indonesian Wikipedia? Only 2-4 sentences enough. I would be thankful. Saganum (talk) 19:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your article! Saganum (talk) 12:09, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Peta Jakarta pada saat kerusuhan Mei 1998
I was wondering if you would be able to SVG trace a map of Jakarta during the May 1998 riots of Indonesia. Crisco 1492 sent me a digital copy of a Tempo article which has a pretty detailed map. I'm afraid the map currently in use doesn't have as much of the useful information conveyed in the Tempo map. You can send me an e-mail and I'll attach the file for you. Otherwise let me know if another method will work. — Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 00:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Some tips to help you out!
Hi, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps.  Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type  on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky ( talk  …stalk!) 12:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Simple references
These require two parts;


 * a)

Chzz is 98 years old.

He likes tea.


 * b) A section called "References" with the special code " ";

Named references
Chzz was born in 1837.

Chzz lives in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates
You can put anything you like between, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals.

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier!
Hi there ! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you might appreciate some help with references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing!  Pesky  ( talk  …stalk!) 12:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Republic of West Papua
Could you please explain why did you reverted the article's contain. Explain, what exact part of the text was not OK or may be written from not a neutral point? Dorelexy (talk) 06:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Indonesia
Hi Gunkarta ! I have noticed you are from Indonesia and you seem to be a sport fan.

Can I ask you if you support Indonesia in all sports, and in particular in Olympic sports? The best thing would be also in sports in which Indonesia is not so good at, but still have athletes at international level

If you do, I would like to talk about an Olympic Games project in which I would really like to have more Indonesian user in. Let me know in your talk page, I will have a look in next days and I will try to answer as soon as possible.

Thanks!

Mobis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.99.38.140 (talk) 22:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Image mistake?
Hi Gunkarta, I have nominated your SVG of the emblem of the Surakarta Sunanate at Featured picture candidates/Emblem of Surakarta Sultanate and an editor has a question about the ribbon (possible mistake in coulours). Could you look there and reply? Thanks.

Selamat malam Gunkarta, saya menominasi SVG saudara yang berisi emblem Kraton Solo di Featured picture candidates/Emblem of Surakarta Sultanate dan seorang editor mau bertanya tentang pitanya (mungkin ada kesalahan di warnanya). Bisakah Gunkara membaca komentarnya dan balas di sana? Terima kasih.

Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:17, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Borobudur
Please see my comment at WP Indonesia talk page - the article is now too big for contemporary events and needs a breakup similar to Krakatoa - I would appreciate some support in a separation into more than one article - thanks SatuSuro 13:06, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Srivijaya archaeological park
Orlady (talk) 22:10, 16 December 2011 (UTC) 09:02, 17 December 2011 (UTC)