User talk:Guoguo12/Archive 4

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I'd appreciate no discussion of my departure. Guoguo12  (Talk)  18:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Best wishes and good luck. -- The Σ talkcontribs 20:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Haha, who am I kidding?

What I did here (quitting Wikipedia) was, to quote one editor, "a bloody dumbass thing to do". I even considered using my right to vanish. Just proves that teenagers are far more reckless. (Good thing I'm not an administrator.) One "adult" principle of life, or so the movies say, is that you can't run from the past. Hopefully, when I figure that (and other things) out, I'll be mature enough to try Wikipedia again.

Until then, I'd like to thank everyone on Wikipedia. Knowledge makes the world go 'round. Keep going, Wikipedia. See you in a few. Guoguo12 --Talk--  20:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

You have my sympathies
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I'm not going to try to convince you to stay on Wikipedia, as I don't think it would be effective, so I'll just say you have my sympathies, and good luck doing whatever you're going to be doing in the future. Based on how well you've done on Wikipedia, I'm sure you'll do great. The Utahraptor Talk/Contribs 20:46, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's really all I can say. Thanks. Guoguo12  --Talk--  20:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Well then...
on a much happier, less "zOMG RfA killed another editor" note, goodbye Guoguo, and I too wish you the best :)  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  20:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it has been a pleasure working with you! Best of luck=) Sumsum2010 · T · C  21:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

A reason to stay
Hi Guoguo - I've never interacted with you, and unfortunately I opposed your RfA. That said, I'm asking you to stay. I think Wikipedia has a lot more to offer than being an admin - I'm not an admin, and find myself busier here than I'd like. I think you should use this place to hone your writing skills, which actually are okay as long as you're careful about the close paraphrasing. It's a lot more exciting to write for the unknown audience who reads wiki articles than to write a paper to hand in to a teacher, imo. Anyway, I'm sure this is a disappointment, but don't dwell on it, and stick around and become a content editor. After all, wikipedia is all about building content, and it's editors like yourself who, I think, have the most to gain here. For whatever it's worth. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 20:58, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Thoughts
I know you don't want attention now for the sake of attention, but have some unsolicited, hopefully not too patronizing advice. Some of this I would have written near the end of your RfA, but it was closed before I got to it.

Take a few days off. Relax. Focus on some other activities for awhile. Think about your priorities. Think about some of the lessons you've learned.

After a few days away, come back if&mdash;and only if&mdash;you think you'll enjoy participating again. There's no time limit. You don't have to announce that you're retired or semi-retired or unretired or ambivalent or whatever. Just edit, if you want to, or don't edit, if you don't want to, and do the best job you can at whatever you choose to do, whether it's Wikipedia or something totally different.

If you do stick around, you might want to read Guidance for younger editors if you haven't already and if it's relevant to your situation and if you think it might be helpful to you. You can try the current version, or the tl;dr version that I wrote originally (linked at the top of the page). If you have any suggestions for making the essay more useful, put them on the talkpage.

Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:07, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Both echoing NYB's comments above and noting that he (as ever from one of our most "senior" wikipedians) gives some fine advice. I was delighted to support your RFA and I was dismayed by the vitriolic assult from Sandy Georgia (although she had some good points her intemperate wrath was simply uncalled for). Your efforts here are very much appreciated. SG bought up some issues that you can learn from, but please continue to enjoy the site and carry on adding value to the readership. Best wishes. Pedro : Chat  21:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll see. I've been very selfish in leaving, making coming back difficult to say the least. But anyway, thanks guys (including those above). Guoguo12   (Talk)  22:15, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * We'll miss you, but I'd be the first to say you're always welcome to come back. –BuickCenturyDriver 22:19, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Just a TLDR comment :)
Sandy is a highly experienced user for whom  I  have a huge respect, and she has an uncanny  knack  of finding  stuff that  many  of us don't, but  she's occasionally outspoken and sometimes doesn't  spare the rod (she nearly  wrecked my  own  RfA!). Also on my  RfA several  others branded me as a child hater -  they  couldn't  have been more wrong, they  just  didn't  didn't dig deep  enough  or read my  user page. These are the problems with many  !voters at RfA. I did not  !vote on  your RfA because I  had already  made a clean-up  intervention  that  (to  me at  least) means I  must  recuse myself. I nevertheless do believe that  Sandy  raised some important  points that  just may have something  to  do  with  maturity. However, I have come across your work  many  times and have always been impressed by  the way  in  which  you  express yourself in  most  situations and the way  you  formulated your answers to the questions on  your RfA.

That said, I  think  that  from  what  you  have learned through  this RfA, you  have a lot to  offer Wikipedia. In particular, and most  especially, in  helping  other young  users to  overcome their childishness. I have come across many  instances where younger users confuse Wikipedia with  a run-of-the-mill  Internet  forum  or blog, and I  also  understand their misplaced enthusiasm to organise competitions fornew page tagging and Wikilinking,  overuse of the barnstar  system,  overly promotional  user pages, and general  employ  of teenage language when addressing  mature creators of articles that unfortunately  must  be deleted because the rules were simply  not  understood.

I know it's a terribly  embarrassing  thing to  have those things revealed that  Sandy  pointed out, but  I'm  sure that  you  genuinely  did not  realise just  how seriously  using  words from  another website is taken -  I  once had a GA nom ditched mainly because of three or four  words from  another site. Although I  was the main  contributor to  that  article, I  hadn't  added the item  myself, but  when I  checked the refs I  didn't  recognise a serious COPYVIO. Nowadays, and especially as an admin, I  have to  be extra special  careful not  only  of what  I  include, but  to  dig deep  into  what  others maintain  are WP:RS.

Please reconsider your retirement - in spite of the reasons that  led you  to  withdraw from  your RfA, you  have done a lot of good work here, and are generally  very  familiar with the rules and how to create and  edit  articles. Many users have had to  take and overcome far worse embarrassment and have gone on to  gain  a great  respect  from  the community, and even made admin  on  their 5th run with  flying  colours. BTW, FWIW, I was the one who  rewrote Brad's excellent  article to  make it  a tad more readable for younger editors - in  fact  my  version  was actually several  bytes longer than  what  he thought  was TLDR! Best,--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ill piggy back so as not to start a new section; I meant my strong support and still do. I wont ask you to reconsider your retirement either though- thats your choice. But its generally hard to get away even if you want.... Anyway, all the best, hope you pull a lemieux one day ;) Ottawa4ever (talk) 06:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * And I'm a (chronologically) older Wikipedian who didn't have a chance to participate in your RfA before it was withdrawn, but I want to stop by and say that I think that you were treated very shabbily there, and I also think that both Kudpung and Newyorkbrad have given you some very good comments here, so I agree with them both. Whatever you decide, all the best wishes from me. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I opposed your RfA, but I'd like to say I hope you'll stick around. You've shown moxy and staying power, good things in an editor. Good luck to you. Best, MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Au revoir
Let's hope it's only au revoir and not goodbye - your work is appreciated here - come back after a rest. :)  Brookie :) - he's in the building somewhere!  (Whisper...) 10:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Goodbye
We'll miss you over at WikiProject Wikify. We've appreciated your work furthering the project and your work as Assistant then Executive Coordinator. Whenever you come back because I'm sure that you aren't gone for good you''ll be always welcome back on the project.

Oh... and don't hold it against SandyGeorgia that she opposed you. If her concerns are valid, fix those problems. If not, respond in a civil manner. You needn't leave Wikipedia just because you failed a RfA twice. WikiCopter03:21, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

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While I never interacted with you on Wikipedia, seeing the treatment of you on your RFA was heartbreaking. I wish I was aware of the "trial" so that I could have helped. The RFA process is very grueling for even more experienced users. I hope after some ime away, you come back! Cheers!SOXROX (talk) 02:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Yaay!
Make it permanent, please! Alzarian16 (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I meant come back permanently, not retire permanently. Sorry if I confused anyone. Alzarian16 (talk) 04:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Just realized I never thanked you for the revert of the vandalism on my page. I'm sure that it was just a regular course of action for you, but I still appreciate it. Take care! WDavis1911 (talk) 10:54, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

2011 WikiCup participation


It was good to have you on board this time around- we hope you enjoyed the competition! In case you are interested, signups for next yearare open. Thanks, J Milburn and The ed17 20:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)