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Guuleeds (talk) 12:59, 26 April 2015 (UTC)== Somali Music ==

Hello,

Why did you delete/revert my addition to [|Music Music of Somalia]

Regards, Guuleed
 * Hi. The main musical instrument used in traditional Somali music is the oud. Metallic and heavy percussion sounds are, however, uncommon . Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:50, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Somali Music
It seems Diriye, the author you link to, is referring to the Northern (nomadic) parts of Somalia where traditional musical instruments are scarce and dominated by the kaban and durbaan. The Southern riverine and coastal areas have a wide range of centuries-old trad. instruments which are being neglected, specially since the advent of the civil war. And this is exactly why I added the passage for the benefit of the many Somalis and non-Somalis who are hardly familiar with this section of our heritage.

When I was writing the addition I tried to add links. But I failed as I'm new to Wikipedia. Check out the following:

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Take Care!

Guuleeds (talk) 05:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Mohamed Diriye Abdullahi is referring there to traditional Somali culture, which is largely based on northern Somali customs. This is because ethnic Somalis evolved in and spread from the north. The instruments you linked to aren't traditionally played by ethnic Somalis, but rather by minority groups like the Mushunguli (Bantu) and Bajuni, who inhabit the riverine area and other parts of the south. Abdullahi explains this as well therein . Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Somali Music
You did a great job! I'll add a few referenced lines as it's imo important that we preserve and learn about our culture. Somali music is the issue we're dealing with here and the minorities are as much Somali as anybody in the majority. The discussion about who is an ethnic Somali or not is mainly a political cesspool that does nothing but a grave disservice to the whole community.

Btw, the trad. instruments I linked to were used by Somalis in all regions even long before the kaban entered the Somali music scene. I personally witnessed people playing them in the remote highlands of the North where I come from. The major problem was and still is the paucity of manufacturing, recording and distrubition facilities.

Best regards,

Guuleeds (talk) 06:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, all citizens are equal. However, there's nothing political about the Somali ethnic group. Bajuni, Bantus, Eyle, etc. are not ethnically Somali, though they too are residents of Greater Somalia. Please see Abdullahi . Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:15, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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I was alluding to the plethora of amateur discussions on Somali ethnicity. As such, it's imo “mainly a political cesspool” that should not permeate an article about Somali music. The assertion that "the instruments aren't traditionally played by ethnic Somalis” doesn't make them less Somali. They're imo an integral and important part of the Somali musical heritage.

PS. Maybe I'm missing sth. but I noticed our discussion is not on your talk page. That's why I can't reply to your reactions by putting a new text under the old text. Any idea?

Best regards,Guuleeds (talk) 06:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand, but one either has Somali ancestors or one does not. Bantus, Bajunis, Eyle, etc. do not. Their ancestors are instead primarily other Bantus (Great Lakes groups like the Zigua for the Mushunguli and the Sabaki for Bajuni), or an early indigenous hunter-gather stock related to the Hadza and Sandawe (for the Eyle, Waboni, Waribi, etc.). Also, with regard to the Mushunguli, many of their musical traditions are actually imports from their ancestral areas in southeastern Africa. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 18:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

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