User talk:Gwen-chan/Archive 1

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 * Ty. GwenChan stalk 21:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Astute is 7,400 tonnes
See:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/submarine-service/future-submarines/

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/submarine-service/fleet-submarines-ssn/astute-class/

http://www.baesystems.com/AboutUs/Astutecomestothebigscreen/index.htm

I'm afraid 7,800 tonnes was a number put out by BAE in error at the time of her launch - they quietly changed to 7,400 tonnes afterwards. Any pages showing 7800 tonnes are drawing from old information (pre-October 2007); I admit their efforts to remove references to the larger incorrect number have not been completely successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ic451uk (talk • contribs) 21:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC) == Sutcliffe & O'Gara's website ==

Here. Thoroughly discredited, except as a work of fiction, and correctly removed. Rodhull andemu  00:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, it's definitely WP:FRINGE, which is why any use of it in the body of the article would be met by hard excision, but even FRINGE has a place as part of NPOV, provided it is not given undue weight. O'Gara's theory was crackpot but still interesting - I would have mildly argued that the link, perhaps annotated, should have stayed but not now that you've pointed out that it was ruled libellous in Law. Gwen Chan 00:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You must examine a website before reverting to an edit including it. I very much doubt you did that within 15 mins. Please be considerate when reverting, and assume good faith, okay.--Zucchinidreams (talk) 01:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I examined the website, actually, and as explained very clearly above I viewed it as fringe, which is acceptable when not given undue weight or annotated as not a mainstream school of thought. The website did not, obviously, carry a link to the law suit which was itself the only reason I did not argue for the reinsertion. Don't come here telling me what actions you do or don't "very much doubt" I have carried out - see your own repetitive and tedious exhortations about "AGF." Kindly stay away from here in future. Anything you wish to discuss about the article can be discussed on the talk page. Gwen Chan 01:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Waddepally
Good call on the CSD re-think. It is rare for articles for places to be speedied, they tend to be treated rather generously. See OUTCOMES. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 10:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
~Adjwilley (talk) 23:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

May 2012
Oops! sorry -- -- Tow Trucker  talk  02:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem! It caught me out too, and I wasn't the first hehe! Gwen Chan 09:00, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Tinga Tinga Tales
I'm a bit confused here. I reverted a long winded addition by an IP, restoring the article to the previous consensus version, and you revert calling my edits vandalism and template me? Care to reconsider? Dennis Brown -  2&cent;   &copy;  11:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't be - you're too smart to be confused =) STiki highlighted the Lorelei King-->Lorelai King edit, who I then Googled. Seeing that it was "ei" (as in the German town) I clicked to revert that. To my everlasting shame I did not notice your name, which would - and 99 times in 100 does - lead me to click the page history for some background. If I promise you a cookie will you ever find it in your heart to forgive me? Gwen Chan 11:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course I forgive you. I was actually quite amused at how gutsy it all looked to "revert and tag the oppressive admin that was deleting the IP's hard work".  There is an Aussie sockmaster who has been a problem there and on other toons, JamesBWatson and I both watch for him.  That IP is Canadian, so not the same, but he dumped a metric tonne of text that just wasn't helpful to the structure.  Of course, we can discuss that on the article talk page if you disagree.  You do have to be careful with the tools and templates.  Not everyone is as kind, or would see it as amusing.  If you had to goof, I guess it is good you goofed with me.  Most days, I have a pretty good sense of humor about things.   Dennis Brown  -  2&cent;   &copy;  11:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)