User talk:Gyrofrog/2014Jan-Jun

This is the archive of comments added to User talk:Gyrofrog from January 2014 through June 2014. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:18, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

In an article far away
you made this edit. This claim of a Sumerian origin for the word has been picked up recently and added to various articles. This led me to do some research, and although some musicologists do make this claim, I find at least one who disagrees strongly and the Sumerian specialists I can find have also disagree or rather don't agree and use a different word. This is all made clear at Talk:Pandura by my recent edits. I'm not sure if you are still interested or not. But I have removed the latest version of your edit as I can't find any Sumerian experts who agree. Dougweller (talk) 16:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at User talk:Dougweller. -- Gyrofrog 19:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014
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Your role as copyright enforcer
You removed a video link I posted to the [Jimmy Rushing] entry, insinuating, but offering no evidence, that it the posted video violated copyright. Google determines what videos violate copyright on YouTube, and I fail to see why you are in a better position to know than Google is, unless you are the copyright holder. Google removes videos when a valid claim of copyright violation is made, and before that there is no assumption (and certainly no proof) that the video violates copyright. You have not demonstrated that you have special copyright expertise, and even that would not give you special knowledge about a given video. You merely draw you own conclusions, which override those of Google, and do as you wish. If I can't know if a video violates copyright, how can you know? And if you do not have such factual knowledge, why do you assume a violation, and the right to delete a link? Please explain any knowledge you have that the video in this instance violates copyright. If you do not have that factual knowledge, please explain why you have the right to act as if it does violate copyright. Do you know of any legal precedent for holding a person or entity liable for linking to a copyrighted item without knowledge that there is a copyright violation? According to the Digital Media Law Project, "As long as you do not know that a work infringes someone's copyright, then you cannot be held liable for contributory infringement for directing users to that work." The mere mention of the video being available from Rhino -- which has now apparently allowed the video to go out of print -- is not proof of copyright ownership. If one exists, the copyright might have been leased to Rhino, or there may be no copyright, or one that permits a YouTube posting. Thanks. Nicmart (talk) 17:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at Talk:Jimmy Rushing. -- Gyrofrog 20:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Meetups coming up in DC!
Hey!

You are invited to two upcoming events in DC:


 * Meetup at Capitol City Brewery on Saturday, January 25 at 6 PM. Please join us for dinner, drinks, socializing, and discussing Wikimedia DC activities and events. All are welcome! RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.
 * Art and Feminism Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, February 1 from Noon – 5 PM. Join us as we improve articles on notable women in history! All are welcome, regardless of age or level of editing experience. RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.

I hope to see you there!

(Note: If you do not wish to receive talk page messages for DC meetups, you are welcome to remove your username from this page.)

Harej (talk) 00:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

MOS of music
Pardon my English, but I have a question regarding to MOS of any WikiProject related to music (in my case jazz). Is it O.K. to wikify dates that have to do with album releases (X-year in music) such as the ones you see here and here? The problem is, is that the albums are not yet listed, but they might be in the future.--Mishae (talk) 00:24, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at User talk:Mishae. -- Gyrofrog 14:59, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Hal Miller
About Actor Hal Miller

Hi Gyrofrog

All the information that you deleted on Hal Miller should be put back I spoke to Hal, a life time friend and He informed me that I could add things about our early life in the Harlem River Houses etc. I may have misunderstood I thought Wikipedia wanted info on peoples of note. waiting to hear from you.

LE  [ personal info redacted ]   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.69.84.190 (talk) 00:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Left response at User talk:72.69.84.190. -- Gyrofrog 15:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Gyrofrog Nice to hear from you, Hal Miller here to answer about the information that my boyhood friend Le put into my Wikipedia page all the things placed on that page are perfectly correct, I was raised with all the persons mentioned on the page and the Actor's information is also on target please get in touch if theirs a problem my email is  [ personal info redacted ] 

all the best

Hal Miller — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.69.84.190 (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Left response at User talk:72.69.84.190. -- Gyrofrog 20:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Genre discussion
Hi Gyrofrog, I think you may have misunderstood my post. I'm not in favour of relying on allmusic. It was just an example. My idea was to either a) remove genre from the infoboxes. or b) have set to a select number of genres that an English-language audience understands.It was not a poll, it was a discussion on a way to finding other ways of handling it. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:51, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music. -- Gyrofrog 16:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Continuous Spam Links
I can that there is a spammer who is continuously spamming wikipedia by adding spam link for soapboxing and advertising. Please check all contributions of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vishal1811 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.202.64.220 (talk) 16:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at User talk:116.202.64.220. -- Gyrofrog 16:59, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Coming up in February!
Hello there!

Our February WikiSalon is coming up on Sunday, February 23. Join us at our gathering of Wikipedia enthusiasts at the Kogod Courtyard of the National Portrait Gallery with an optional dinner after. As usual, all are welcome. Care to join us?

Also, if you are available, there is an American Art Edit-a-thon being held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum with Professor Andrew Lih's COMM-535 class at American University on Tuesday, February 11 from 2 to 5 PM. Please RSVP on the linked page if you are interested.

If you have any ideas or preferences for meetups, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/DC.

Thank you, and hope to see you at our upcoming events! Harej (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Harar
Hello, you changed my edit for Harar, asking me for citation. Where is your citation that Arabs founded Harar in the 7th century? There is no evidence that Yemenis came to Eastern Ethiopia in the 7th century and settled there. Where is the evidence? Where is the evidence that Harar is even that old? Why are you crediting foreigners over the obvious -the traditional residents and rulers of Harar? Harar is a city built by the people of the eastern part of Ethiopia who are predominately Muslims. Some of the architecture is obviously related to Yemen, but that is because they would have brought Yemeni architects and craftsmen as they were strong trade links with Yemen. However, to say that Yemenis founded Harar deep on Africa does not make sense without a citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethiohistorian (talk • contribs) 04:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at User talk:Ethiohistorian. -- Gyrofrog 04:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, this citation is obscure, unsure and contradictory. It uses the term "probably", and than states that islam was introduced in the 1200's  It Harar was founded by Yemenis the 9th century, Islam would have been introduced than. We need a Harari source or a Yemeni source to make a claim that Yemeni founded the city, and if not available beyond an obscure source, I think such a claim should not be mentioned. It is unfair to keep giving credit to foreigners at the expense of African accomplishments unless there is strong grounds for doing so. There is no doubt strong links with Yemen due to Islam, but there is no history of Arabs founding cities and towns in the interior of sub sahara Africa. What is known is that trade links result in the development of markets which can grow into towns organically which can attract foreigners and their influences. The natives of Harar speak a semetic language similar to Amharic, they are islamacized Africans., local to the region. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethiohistorian (talk • contribs) 06:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Mike Adams
I was trying to make a artcle about mike adms the health ranger can you please let e create it thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thephil12312 (talk • contribs) 20:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

please romove this massege
I understand you doing this but, i wanted to let you know that i would be very pleased you could delete this massege.

Tahnk you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.daroish (talk • contribs) 18:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Left message at User talk:M.daroish. -- Gyrofrog 18:12, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi
You have undone some of the edits I have placed on the Amhara People page. Can you be more specific with you edits? That is give the title of the section you edited and the changes you made. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gembres (talk • contribs) 20:23, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Left messages at User talk:Gembres and Talk:Amhara people. -- Gyrofrog 03:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Ethiopia is a patrilineal society. So, you take your father's ethnicity. Most of the people in the notable Amhara people are commonly known to have Amhara lineage through their father. Some people might argue they are of different ethnicity but it all depends on the father.

I agree with you that it is not easy to confirm whether a person is from one ethnic group or not. It is a common knowledge as to which ethnic group the person belongs to. You can leave that to the wikipedia community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gembres (talk • contribs) 04:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Left response at User talk:Gembres. -- Gyrofrog 04:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually you can't prove for most of the individuals. There is no database where you can go and find the ethnicity of a person. There are no documents online where you can verify this.

The exception to this are Oromo people. Since they are very nationalistic, you can find names of individuals on Oromo websites. However, Amhara, Tigre, and Gurage people almost never list their people on websites. Good luck with that.

Teddy Afro is Amhara. His mother or his father mother might have Oromo or Gurage, but in Ethiopia ethnicity goes down through fathers line. So, hope that solves your confusion. If you can't prove this, you can look up sources that show you that he only knows Amharic language fluently and he is Amhara by culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gembres (talk • contribs) 06:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I've left a response at Talk:Amhara people. I think it would be better to maintain the discussion in one place and where others may see it. -- Gyrofrog 15:39, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Andajara120000
Hi Gyrofrog. A sock of the blocked User:Andajara120000 has been disrupting various Somali and Ethiopian-related pages, adding his trademark anti-religious pov and outdated material. Can you please have a look? Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 18:42, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

FORGOT LEE SCHIPPER REFERENCE, OOPS!
Hello there Gyrofrog! Dreadfully sorry, I forgot to add the reference for the Schipper music entry... Perpetually in a hurry writing, editing and correcting texts, books, posts and mag columns on jazz, that I forgot the bloody reference TWICE!!! Absent-mindness, Astrologers say, is common during the astronomic phase of Mercury going retrograde (in reverse) from 1 Feb until 28 Feb 2014. It happens a couple of times a year and it's a bugger for many involved in writing, because Mercury rules written texts and travelling of any kind. I will get the REFERENCE in straight away--if the system lets me. If not, please unblock. Cheers & have a good one.Arquitectura1 (talk) 22:06, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Jazz musician
I wonder if the subject of this article is the same Lee Schipper in this 1968 Voice of America interview: link. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:43, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

REPLY Jazz musician
Yes it is, Lee was a lead jazz musician at UC (University of California). I'll copy paste this reply in your talk page too. Arquitectura1 (talk) 22:39, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DC Meetups in March
 Happy March!

Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.

Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:


 * Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
 * March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
 * Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!

We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

— Harej (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Page Removal
Thank you for the helpful message explaining the removal of the Abbey Rader page. I understand your points and will rewrite in accepted format. I did have a couple of questions, however. 1) Is the original page content available somewhere? I'd like to use it as an outline for content, layout, and a reminder of helpful sources. 2) Also, you provided a link to the WP:NPOV page and stated the text as written wouldn't comply. You pointed out some phrases in the original article that specifically do not comply if I understand correctly. Would removing such phrases eliminate the NPOV concern? 3) Finally, since this is a biographical entry, it seems to me that it might be more difficult to paraphrase than in other subject areas. Much of the article will be facts or events that occurred in one way. Is there a bit more leeway on these type of entries in terms of the direct quotations allowed?

Again, appreciate your insight and help. I certainly hope the original page might be recoverable and I look forward to reposting according to guidelines. Bodrad (talk) 04:19, 4 March 2014 (UTC)bodrad

An exciting month of wiki events!
 Hello there,

I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.

First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.

Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.

On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.

The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.

There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!

All the best, James Hare

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Two edit-a-thons coming up!


Hello there!

I'm pleased to tell you about two upcoming edit-a-thons:


 * This Tuesday, April 29, from 2:30 to 5:30 PM, we have the Freer and Sackler edit-a-thon. (Sorry for the short notice!)
 * On Saturday, May 10 we have the Wikipedia APA edit-a-thon, in partnership with the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center, from 10 AM to 5 PM.

We have more stuff coming up in May and June, so make sure to keep a watch on the DC meetup page. As always, if you have any recommendations or requests, please leave a note on the talk page.

Best,

James Hare

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Meet up with us


Happy May!

There are a few meetups in DC this month, including an edit-a-thon later this month. Check it out:
 * On Thursday, May 15 come to our evening WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle. If you're available Thursday evening, feel free to join us!
 * Or if you prefer a Saturday night dinner gathering, we also have our May Meetup at Capitol City Brewing Company. (Beer! Non-beer things too!)
 * You are also invited to the Federal Register edit-a-thon at the National Archives later this month.

Come one, come all!

Best,

James Hare

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Please stop removing section from the Amhara people article. You may be blocked from wikipedia if you continue this disruptive behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gembres (talk • contribs) 21:13, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

The same standard should be applied to all the ethnic groups. I am the one who added the Notable Oromo People section. But it seems that you guys target the Notable Amhara people section and remove it while you keep the other ethnic groups intact. There looks like some other motive behind your actions.STOP disruptive editing, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gembres (talk • contribs) 21:18, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Stop Target the Amhara People Article
The same standard should be applied to all the ethnic groups. I am the one who added the Notable Oromo People section. But it seems that you guys target the Notable Amhara people section and remove it while you keep the other ethnic groups intact. There looks like some other motive behind your actions.STOP disruptive editing!!!§Gembres (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Amhara People
I really wonder who gave you the authority on Ethiopian history. If you doubt the authenticity of the individuals listed under Amhara people, you do not have any other criteria that prevent you from doing the same for the individuals listed under Oromo, Tigre, and others. You can not just say it "makes sense" for me.

The same standard should be applied to all ethnic groups. If you put a tab on the Amhara people, you should also put a tab on the Oromo people and Tigre people entries. I see your act as racist attack on an entire ethnic group, which is considered vandalism on wikipedia. Stop being biased and targeting the Amhara people. Gembres (talk) 00:23, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Left response at Talk:Amhara people. -- Gyrofrog 14:05, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Individuals listed under Amhara People
If you have issue with individuals, you can raise it on the main discussion page. I have removed Abebe Aregai and Birtukan Mideksa, who are part Tigrigna and Oromo. If you have issues with individuals single them out. You can't delete the entire section. Gembres (talk) 00:33, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Left response at User talk:Gembres. -- Gyrofrog 14:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think there is any better word that will describe a person who will single out Amhara people and question their identity while he glosses over other by simply saying it makes sense for him. Ethnicity is fluid not a static concept. Barack Obama can be described American of Kenyan heritage or American of Irish heritage, but this does not prevent a person from listing Obama under American people of Irish decent. The same applies to Teddy Afro and others you keep on mentioning. He is mix of Amhara and Gurage, hence people may put him under different categories. Also, just because you have issue with him does not give you right to remove the entire section. Gembres (talk) 03:28, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing
Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Amhara people. Your edits have been reverted or removed.Gembres (talk) 06:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Gembres
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Ethiopian123 and Gyrofrog123. Thank you.
 * I'm flattered, I guess. -- Gyrofrog 14:44, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Livetronica
Please address the sourcing issue raised on the talk page of the article, thanks. Semitransgenic talk. 18:04, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Left comment at Talk:Livetronica. -- Gyrofrog 18:20, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Washington, DC meetups in June


Greetings!

Wikimedia DC has yet another busy month in June. Whether you're a newcomer to Wikipedia or have years of experience, we're happy to see you come. Here's what's coming up:


 * On Wednesday, June 11 from 7 to 9 PM come to the WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space. Hang out with Wikipedia enthusiasts!
 * Saturday, June 14 is the Frederick County History Edit-a-Thon from 11 AM to 4 PM. Help improve local history on Wikipedia.
 * The following Saturday, June 21, is the June Meetup. Dinner and drinks with Wikipedians!
 * Come on Tuesday, June 24 for the Wikipedia in Your Library edit-a-thon at GWU on local and LGBT history.
 * Last but not least, on Sunday, June 29 we have the Phillips Collection Edit-a-Thon in honor of the Made in America exhibit.

Wikipedia is better with friends, so why not come out to an event?

Best,

James Hare

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Thanks for both of your emails. Sorry for any convenience it may have caused. I will do as requested from now on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tassebew (talk • contribs) 16:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppet
If you have a few minutes can you look at and. Hiyob346 was blocked for using sockpuppets and Vetrisimino0 may be another. Thanks. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 03:01, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Members of the Ethiopian Imperial Family
My name is Connie Jo Wilbun (Quave') Makonnen, the legally married spouse of HIH Paul Wossen-Seged Makonnen. He and I would like to know why our names have been omitted from some of the areas that identify the members of the family. The articles about history are not and have not been altered. If the truth is to be told, then that means not withholding information. My husband and I are offended by this omission. Because, when we took the steps to edit our names and include them as they should be spelled and to include my husband's entire name, these editions were removed. Please explain why our names have been omitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quaveduchess (talk • contribs) 04:52, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at User talk:Quaveduchess. -- Gyrofrog 13:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Aymanharun (talk)ayman
sorry but what i said about the Oromo people and the changes i made are correct. There is NOT that many christians in oromia. Ive been to every state i think i would know. Islam is the dominant religion in all parts of Oromia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aymanharun (talk • contribs) 11:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Left response at User talk:Aymanharun. -- Gyrofrog Gyrofrog (talk) 13:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

The Great American Wiknic and other events in July


I am pleased to announce our fourth annual picnic, the Great American Wiknic, will take place at Meridian Hill Park in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, July 13 from 1 to 5 PM (rain date: July 20). We will be hanging out by the statue of Dante Alighieri, a statue that was donated to the park in 1921 as a tribute to Italian Americans. Read more about the statue on Wikipedia. If you would like to sign up for the picnic, you can do so here. When signing up, say what you’re going to bring!

July will also feature the second annual Great American Wiknic in Frederick, Maryland. This year’s Frederick picnic will take place on Sunday, July 6 at Baker Park. Sign up here for the Frederick picnic.

What else is going on in July? We have the American Chemical Society Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, July 12, dedicated to notable chemists, and our monthly WikiSalon on Wednesday, July 16.

We hope to see you at our upcoming events!

Best,

James Hare

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