User talk:HAL(Old)/Archive/June2007

Adoption
Hi,. I noticed you were offering adoption, so I'd like to offer you my services. If you accept, please respond on my talk page. Thanks, - G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 02:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Your first adoption task!
Congratulations, you are now adopted! What this means, in a nutshell, is that I should be your first point of call whenever you have a question or concern about something related to Wikipedia.

However, rather then just being an idle backbone of sorts, I’ve decided that the best way to introduce you to Wikipedia, and make you a better editor, is with a series of tasks, that will show you what different aspects of Wikipedia are like.

I’m about to give you your first task. It’s not hard (none of them will be). When you’ve done it, I’d like you to leave a message on my talk page, along with any information I ask for you during the task. Just as preliminary information, I’m going to be asking you for something called a “diff” throughout all of the tasks. A diff is a page like this one (a totally random example). It basically shows the difference between two different versions of an article. You can learn more about diffs here.

Now, the first task: Contributing to an article.
 * 1) First of all, if you haven’t already, find an article about something that you’re interested in. If you have trouble deciding, then you may want to check out the portal on your chosen subject, and pick an article from there.
 * 2) Once you have an article, we’re going to be making it better. There are many ways to improve an article, and I’m going to start with what I believe is the most simple, which is adding references.
 * 3) Read through your chosen article, and find a statement that isn’t referenced - there is no citation at the end of the sentence. One of the main Wikipedia policies is that all statements must be verified.
 * 4) When you’ve found an unverified, unsourced statement, your job is to add a reference to it. An easy way to do this is to search for the article’s subject on Google.  It’s also good to add the word “article” or “news” to your search term (as well as anything specific to what you’re trying to cite).
 * 5) When you’ve found a reference, go back to the article (it helps to have multiple windows/tabs open in your web browser), and click the button that says “edit” either at the top of the page, or next to the section header.
 * 6) Find the text you’re trying to reference. When you’ve found it, add a citation using one of the many referencing styles available.  The most commonly used is Cite web, but all of the styles should contain decent usage manuals to help you add them to articles.
 * 7) When you have added a reference to the article, look down, below the edit box, and you’ll see a field for you to insert your edit summary. It’s a really good habit to insert one of these for every edit you make (and there’s an option in your preferences that can force you to do that).  For this edit, add a summary that says something along the lines of “citing sources.”
 * 8) Find the diff for the edit you just made, and post a link to the diff on my talk page. Remember to either add a comment in the current thread (where you responded to my adoption offer) or in a new thread (by clicking the “+” at the top of the page).

When you have left the diff on my talk page, I’ll take a look at it, then come back here with some more comments. Good luck! - G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 02:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, thanks for the barnstar. That went straight to the pool room -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 03:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, placing it on my talk page is the best option, so I know I've received it. I add it to the showcase myself.  Oh, and please sign your posts on my talk page ;) -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 04:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I've had a look at this diff. Your reference is fine, but I suggest you use inline citations. How?  I suggest you do what is suggested at WP:CITE - You insert the link etc. inside   tags, then you add    at the bottom of the article (under the references heading).  I've done it to the article you fixed up (see here) so you can compare.  Now, just to confirm that you can indeed do this, I suggest you get another article (or find more references for this one), and cite your sources inline.  Good luck, and congratulations on your work so far, -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 05:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I took a look at Hibiscus Children's Center (I had to move it, since the redirect on your userspace went to Hibiscus Chilren's Center (spelling error in "children"). It looks fine.  There are some minor NPOV issues, which I've marked, but the referencing is fine, and it's a great first attempt at an article (I think it's your first, anyway).  Just a note, Image:Hibiscus logo.gif needs a fair use rationale because it is a non free image.  If you don't add one, you could receive nasty warnings.  Tell me if you  need help with it. Anyway, I think you've definitely completed task 1! Updated here.  Task 2 coming right up. -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 22:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Jokes etc...
Hello and thankyou for your message on my talk page. My edit, as far as i remember, merely moved some important text not added by me to a more appropriate position on the article, and added a citation needed tag to a dubious and unsourced statement. Contrary to the warning tag placed on my talk page by the user who has adopted you, my edit was absolutely serious and improved the article as far as I am concerned. I had indeed contacted the above user on her talk page before I restored my misinterpreted edit, and requested that the warning be removed. I have had no reply. Thanks for your concern. :-) 195.137.96.79 23:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: SVG tools deletion
user talk:h2g2bob/Archive 2. I've changed my mind a bit on this one - I had a look around and spotted list of vector graphics editors, and a lot of the page could be merged into that. The software library support is probably better as text (not as a list) in the "support in software applications" part of SVG page itself, as some libraries are quite important but need context (eg support in the Qt library leads to the Oxygen Project for KDE 4, which a list just wouldn't notice). AfD here. --h2g2bob (talk) 18:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Signing your posts
Hey Hal. I just found there was a script that can help fix your signing problems. Check out the documentation for qSig here, then copy the code from here to your monobook. Enjoy! - G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 04:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Task 2!
- G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 22:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * If you're doing some more, I look forward to seeing the results of it! Just as a note, could you leave new messages at the bottom of my talk page; it makes it easier for me to find them =D -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 05:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * All good. Oh, and I made minor edits to your uw stuff, which is also a great initiative :D -  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 23:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Task 3, should you choose to accept
- G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 23:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Task 4, sorry about the wait
- G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 02:58, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of the Article "Judge Joseph F. Weis Jr."
Proposed Deletion of the Article "Judge Joseph F. Weis Jr."

You put up a proposed deletion on this page. As to your concerns that "This article's subject does not seem to have the notability needed for an article, and does not seem to have many sources about him." The Judge personally requested that I create a Wikipedia page for him, after he saw pages for some of his comrades such as Judge Garth(see Leonard I. Garth). Information is either taken from websites and run by him, or personally told to me by the Judge. The final article will be run by him, so I can assure you that all information will be accurate. Thank you, TrevorDubya.

Task 5
G 1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 23:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Awesome, no problems here. Now, that's all the tasks I have set out to help you learn the ropes. If you like, there is a quiz just to test how much you've learnt about the ways of the wiki, before you graduate. The quiz is optional, of course, and instructions on completing it are included on that page I linked you to.  Good luck, and congratulations!  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 08:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Check your userpage, and the quiz page ;) G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 01:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You are correct. I've updated your score for no particular reason :D Hope to keep in touch!   G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 04:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I draw your attention to User:G1ggy/RfA if you haven't already seen it. In other words, when you're ready, I'd be super happy to nominate you.  And I totally understand what you meant by not wanting to oppose, I'm sometimes like that too =D  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 05:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Not for a long time. I'm on holidays for the next two weeks (leaving now!), so it won't be then.  Most likely at the end of July/start of August, and Husond will probably be nominating me (but you're welcome to co-nominate, and I'll give you a buzz closer to the date if you like).  G  1  ggy  Talk/Contribs 05:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Help With Citations
Hal, thank you for taking away the deletion propostition. I'm not sure how to cite my sources, so I would appreciate you help. The sources I would like to cite are

a)Judge Joseph Weis

b)Justices and Judges of the United States Courts, by The Administrative Office of the United States Courts and James C. Duff. 2006

Thanks, TrevorDubya

Judge Joseph F. Weis Jr./to do
A "" template has been added to the article Judge Joseph F. Weis Jr./to do, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. 172.131.164.16 12:28, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Chuck E. Cheese's
Hey there, thanks for your help reverting the vandalism on the Chuck E Cheese webpage. Did you notice there is vandalism going way back, with those birthday lyrics and saying that stalin founded it. Can you go back through the versions of the page to find the last unvandalised one? unfortunately a lot of the bad stuff was preserved through revisions. thanks :) Eliz81 19:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I *love* twinkle. It is so awesome for quickly reverting vandalism. But if there's vandalism that has been preserved, it's not so helpful anymore. What's everyone got against Chuck E Cheese, anyway? Thanks again for takin care of it and go ahead and file the report. Woot woot twinkle! Eliz81 19:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That might be a good idea to request protection. It's a pretty common target. And it's a pain when the vandalism gets integrated with all the good stuff. My guess is, there isn't a version to revert to at this point, because good edits were made to vandalised pages. argh!! keep at it though :) Eliz81 20:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I borrowed some of your layout for my userpage. It's purdy. Thanks! :) Eliz81 20:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Pages
A tag has been placed on Elizabeth Koch, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. Please don't delete - see Talk:Elizabeth_Koch Tmartin.usa 06:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC).