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Cambridge movement moved to draftspace
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Thanks, I'll develop it more Britishfinance HAL  333  16:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Thanks. HAL  333  21:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

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Draft:Labor of Love (2020 film)


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Thanks, ill retrieve it and do some more work on it HAL  333  20:28, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * Thanks JamesG5, I appreciate the advice and will try to follow it. HAL  333  13:36, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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 * Ok, thanks HAL  333  02:57, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2019 Dresden heist

 * Of course. Thanks HAL  333  13:32, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Jeffrey Epstein
Re your recent edit, please see Talk:Jeffrey_Epstein I expect you will wish to respond. 86.143.229.179 (talk) 05:08, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I appreciate it. HAL  333  16:53, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I also came here to ask you to discuss that addition. I've removed it meantime from the article. Thanks for your understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Huhsz (talk • contribs) 17:55, 29 November 2019 (UTC)


 * To be honest, you're completely right in your comment here. However, I am boycotting that RFC since it is so unbelievably biased against having the image. – MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐. SchroCat did make the RFC completely biased, but I find that when I don't participate, they end up using the "consensus" to railroad the logical choice.  HAL  333  03:54, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * [Thank you for the ping] You're right in that regard. However, I think it might be more helpful in a lot of regards for me to step back and see what others say. I've never argued with a user who was so painfully wrong yet bent on insisting otherwise, and I have never seen an RFC formed that claims one side of the debate is fraudulent. If people seemed to get fooled by it, then maybe I'll weigh in. However, it would seem that most participants thus far are in favor of including the image. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 04:28, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I can understand that MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐  HAL  333  06:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for The Child (Star Wars character)
--valereee (talk) 12:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks HAL  333  21:37, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

April 2020

 * Thanks. I hope to be able to get it to GA status. ~ HAL  333  19:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Great choice for a GA, good luck! If there is anything I can help with, let me know. Best ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  19:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Avengers Endgame and Forbes contributors
Please see Reliable sources/Perennial sources. That explains about Forbes contributor content being used as sources. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:33, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That makes a little more sense. ~ HAL  333  00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Happy Easter or whatever you celebrate
or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I wish you a great Easter as well. ~ HAL  333  18:23, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, strange without lots of singing, but more time for hiking and biking. How do you like my singing in defiance, for example the loving-kindnesses piece? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , it was very good! I'm impressed. ~ HAL  333  20:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The idea was born when the composer was TFA, DYK? When Penderecki died I thought about which piece to focus on, as a contribution of thanks, took the Credo rather soon, and became more and more intrigued by both content and him conducting it up to rather recently. (His bio went only to 2014, but found that he conducted it in 2018, to celebrate a centenary of Polish independence, in Ukraine!) Seems really some personal Creed, with an Easter song in the end. I was just too late for a DYK for Easter, also had the other already, so it will appear some day with a different hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ... and today Le Concert Spirituel - had to work on another composer who died when I found out that the last one had taken his pic and written his article --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * A lot of greats of died recently, Brian Dennehy, Allen Daviau, Freeman Dyson... ~ HAL  333  22:11, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Agree. Today, I remember the birthday of a great conductor, and remember that I knew in 2014 that he died before news knew. - When you see news of a recent death (for example watching Deaths in 2020), feel fre to upgrade the article, at least get rid of tags, and if sufficiently sourced, nominate on WP:ITNN to be mentioned on the Main page. I keep being surprised about how many views that section gets, last week a five-digit number for a Swedish mezzo-soprano, just by mentioning her name, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I definitely will. ~ HAL  333  15:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sometimes - when I can't upgrade a composer's article enough - I write about one of his works, especially fun when it's music for free imagination in battle with thought control ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I do the same thing. When a featured article like Ernest Hemingway doesn't have much room for improvement, I edit the articles on all of his short-stories and novels. ~ HAL  333  22:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thinking alike, it seems ;) - To be pictured tomorrow: Credo. For Easter it was the loving-kindness (with particular pleasure, I admit), and last year it was an opera, where it says in the end "We pounded at the doors of the mighty; unheard remained the heart-wrenched agony, our people's mournful fate!", so more particular pleasure. (Remember Mozart?) My related little credo is here, please mind it's last line ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've decided to not initiate anymore discussions on infoboxes. If someone else creates a discussion and my opinion would actually contribute something, then I might pitch in. But I've found it best to go to articles without a cartel of editors who've worked on it for 5-10 years. ~ HAL  333  15:20, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah! - I believe that there are still many Mozart compositions without. I took care of the piano concertos after this beauty (not by me) made it to FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I hope you're getting by during this pandemic and consequent lockdown. ~ HAL  333  00:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Trying, hope the same for you. Singing in choir is better than singing alone. Today, read Credo, "this is the day ..." - a line from Psalm 118 which Penderecki included in what he believed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Psalm 118 was just what I needed. Thanks! ~ HAL  333  18:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I should look into that one more. Did you know that we have a project going, to improve the psalms articles? I had no idea how many artworks the kiss of justice and peace inspired. - But first, I go for a great singer, Inge Borkh, planned to be GA some day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:50, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * There's a WikiProject for almost everything nowadays. I used to be involved in a few, but I preferred going off on whatever interested me. ~ HAL  333  00:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Clorox bleach
I find you an interesting editor, I think the Clorox bleach should have its own article, there are loads of sourcing about this bleach, could you make it?. 191.13.97.117 (talk) 11:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't know they sold Clorox in Brazil. ~ HAL  333  01:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! ~ HAL  333  17:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see the talk page.   Cassianto Talk  17:40, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of F. Scott Fitzgerald
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 * Awesome! ~ HAL  333  16:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020
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Hey

 * He's your typical Wikipedia diva. Talks a lot, has thin skin.  Just avoid him.--v/r - TP 23:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've unfortunately had my fair share of encounters - avoiding him really is the best approach. I hope you're doing well. ~ HAL  333  00:40, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, some people on this project really fit that essay to a T. Having seen this, he reacted just like any child would and retaliated; as if I care lol!--v/r - TP 13:17, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but no — no to these final jabs. El_C 15:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, ok. ~ HAL  333  15:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Cape Canaveral Space Force Station
I wanted to notify you about a requested move on Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, since you were involved in the first one. Talk:Cape Canaveral Space Force Station Garuda28 (talk) 03:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll check it out. ~ HAL  333  05:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Unsourced information
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 * Thanks, I'll get around to adding some sources. ~ HAL  333  02:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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Pageone.ng
At Articles for deletion/Pageone.ng, did you accidentally edit the wrong page? The "nominator" has subsequently been blocked as a sock, and his nomination was an argument to avoid, specifically WP:Not notable. Now, I realize this is an essay and not policy, but it is generally adhered to. If you meant to !vote this way, then pardon my intrusion. All the best, and happy editing. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 19:32, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No, I meant to edit that page. Appreciated the check though. Thanks! ~ HAL  333  20:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery
Just a friendly reminder that WP:BLP applies to Talk:Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, and also Travis McMichael and his father Gregory McMichael. Would you mind striking out and/or removing the (the unsourced allegation about "Murderer"), they've been arrested and charged, but not convicted per WP:BLPCRIME. It could be viewed as a potential BLP:VIO against the McMichaels. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 16:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * All right. ~ HAL  333  19:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Peter Weir filmography
The proper thing to do is keep the filmography header, and then include a link to the proper page. It’s not difficult. Rcarter555 (talk) 06:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to do that. ~ HAL  333  13:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to not be a dick. It costs nothing. Rcarter555 (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Media, the arts, and architecture request for comment
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June 2020
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DYK for Javier Bardem filmography
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ~ HAL  333  14:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Million Award for F. Scott Fitzgerald

 * Thanks! I really appreciate that. ~ HAL  333  15:12, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Media, the arts, and architecture request for comment
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Feedback request: Media, the arts, and architecture request for comment
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FLC
Thanks for the responses on the Sigourney Weaver FLC, the list is looking very good now. If you're interested, I have co-nominated a TV-related FLC with a newer editor, Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Community/archive1, and we're looking for another comment or two to push it over the edge. No pressure if not. Thanks! — Bilorv (  Black Lives Matter  ) 08:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! ~ HAL  333  13:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, much appreciated. :) — Bilorv (  Black Lives Matter  ) 17:56, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Elon Musk
Kindly do not remove details from the IB unless it has been discussed on the Talk page. =--Jaysmith5 (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Kindly do not add details to the IB unless it had been discussed on the Talk page. Accept the status quo. ~ HAL  333  01:12, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

These details on the IB have been accepted and been in place for a moderate amount of time. Happy to have a respectful discussion with you on the Talk page of the article. Thank you, -- Jaysmith5 (talk) 01:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of F. Scott Fitzgerald
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Death of Jeffrey Epstein and WP:GA?№5
Can such a popular page, even if semi-protected, ever really be called stable? Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 03:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for alerting me. ~ HAL  333  04:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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FLC review request
Thanks for promptly responding to my feedback in your two FLCs. When you have the time, could I please trouble you to have a look at my FLC nom? Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! ~ HAL  333  01:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for F. Scott Fitzgerald
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 * Awesome, thanks! ~ HAL  333  00:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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92nd Academy Awards FLC
Hi there,

I was wondering if you have time to review 92nd Academy Awards for featured list consideration. I would appreciate the feedback.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 10:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! ~ HAL  333  15:54, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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FLC review request
Hi. I noticed that you're highly active at FLC. I have a candidate list that is rapidly approaching the older nominations section and has only one review, and I'm worried that my nomination will fail purely from lack of attention. Would you be willing to take a look at it and offer any feedback you have?

I intend to use the finished FL as a template for improving similar lists, so the more feedback I'm able to get, the better.

Sincerely, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll try to get to it soon. ~ HAL  333  16:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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Precious
You are recipient no. 2416 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It's an honor. ~ HAL  333  16:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I hope you realise that it's from the cabal of the outcast ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Never a signed-up member but outcast, and more, a friend, and having given the best advice for survival here. Enjoy life, Hal! The first name I came across when typing your name now was Hasteur, and the second Halibutt. - In a nutshell: certain articles, you better leave alone, period. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I get it - life is to short to waste it on IB discussions. ~ HAL  333  13:16, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hasteur: I was sure I gave him precious long ago, - but wrong. Haven't decided if I do it now. I think I told you where I'm spending my time. Anna was a friend of mine. - Doing the Sinatra-all-day-DYK event in 2015 was great fun, and collaboration. (I hope you looked at every link above.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I was personally quite upset when I heard of Morricone's passing. I watched Cinema Paradiso that night. I'm actually planning to get an article related to him up to FL soon. I can understand your point about constructive edits - a controversial rfc can take as much work and time as a FL and something rarely comes from it. ~ HAL  333  13:34, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The cabal's to-do is here, and you can list a FLN at the top when it's ready, signed-up or not ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh look, a Tainted Award being given to someone because they were disruptive in an idiot box comment. If there is a disruptive and nasty step to take around those discussions, you always seem to manage it. - SchroCat (talk) 22:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * What is your deal? What is up with the bad faith and innuendo? Those are rhetorical questions, please do not respond. Please desist immediately. El_C 13:21, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

FYI
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Sinatra
I have no idea why you seem determined to be so disruptive on the Sinatra article, but just stop. There is no need for personal attacks (and, yes, reference to a “cabal” is a personal attack), and the question of the lead image was discussed six months ago. Just. Let. It. Go. - SchroCat (talk) 22:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)