User talk:HCGiese

Hi Reviewers of Wikipedia, there are some issues I would like to address. I have put a lot of time and effort into the creation of Harry C. Giese and I would like to be informed if the article is to be edited so that I can review the changes before they are made. I have noticed that the editors of Wikipedia have not only deleted links and statements that were only meant for both the benefit of the article and Wikipedia itself and I would like to be informed of these changes next time before they are made. I would also like to add that the references in the article are current and have been added in a proper citation style, and are most likely not susceptible to link rot any time soon. Could the kind reviewers please review the article and respond with the changes that need to be made, so that I may do that changes myself and know fully what is happening, rather than checking on my article and finding that changes have been made to the information I have worked hard to compile without my consent. Regards, HCGiese.


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Hi Huon Your assistance, advice and expertise through this process is really appreciated. The article now looks professional. Regards HCGieseHCGiese (talk) 04:23, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, I'm happy to help. Huon (talk) 05:03, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Wikipedia editors: A distinction has been made between the articles on Harry C. Giese, Australian public servant and Harry Giese, German voice actor, but there is no disambiguation in the summary on the latter which appears prominently to the right of the main search engine listings. From your experience and knowledge, please suggest how disambiguation can best be added to this. Regards, HCGieseHCGiese (talk) 23:22, 12 October 2013 (UTC)


 * The Harry Giese article carries a hatnote pointing to Harry C. Giese. Whatever the search engines do or don't do is not a Wikipedia issue; we don't (and shouldn't) deal in search engine optimization and cannot directly influence the search engines. Huon (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Huon and other editors: The hatnote is part of the two articles and should also be included in any summary. Surely disambiguation is a Wikipedia issue, not a Google (etc) one? This concerns accuracy and fairness, not SEO. Do others have ideas about this? Thanks HCGieseHCGiese (talk) 22:53, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And Wikipedia already disambiguates. Both articles carry hatnotes pointing to each other. How Google summarizes the articles and whether its summary includes the hatnotes is beyond our control. I don't quite understand what you think should be done, but if you mean to propose that in addition to, or instead of, the hatnote the first paragraph of the Harry Giese article should also contain a disambiguation, that would violate Wikipedia's guideline on lead sections and will not be done. Huon (talk) 23:15, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Huon and other editors: Disambiguation certainly should not be part of a lead section, which would only engender further confusion. Thanks for your responses, Huon. I'll think about other ways of getting this point over, including through the various Wikipedia discussion channels, as suggested. HCGieseHCGiese (talk) 22:59, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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Again, welcome! Huon (talk) 01:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Some comments: First of all, your draft is at WT:Articles for creation/Harry Giese 1913-2000 Australia - that's the preferred location for drafts awaiting review. This page had redirected to the draft, but since it's meant as a place for other users to contact you, I removed the redirect. DragonflySixtyseven and I have done some copyediting to make the draft's layout conform to Wikipedia's standards and to add links to other Wikipedia articles. That brings me to the next question: The draft mentions Giese was active in Northern Territory Rugby. Was that the Northern Territory Rugby Union, the Northern Territory Rugby League, or both? A link to the correct organization(s) would be nice. Huon (talk) 01:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * There are two images, Commons:File:Harry Giese 1913-2000 Darwin Australia in the 1970s.jpg at the Commons and File:Harry C. Giese 1913-2000 Darwin Australia in the 1970s.jpg on Wikipedia itself. The former has the OTRS tag; the latter seems a duplicate that was probably uploaded in error, possibly due to some confusion about the file name. Apparently you broke the image link yourself with this edit; the Commons image itself was not deleted. I'll restore the link to the Commons file and delete the local one as a duplicate (speedy deletion criterion F8). Huon (talk) 18:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for your speedy and helpful responses. HCGiese (talk) 02:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)HCGiese

Hi Editors With the image used in this article, confusion is still occurring in the search engine listings, labelling and description. Can the image name be amended to File:Harry C. Giese 1913-2000 Darwin Australia in the 1970s.jpg (adding the initial in the registration) to distinguish it from the picture of the youthful German voice actor who is unrelated to the Australian in beliefs, actions, time and place. Thanks.HCGiese (talk) 23:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC)HCGiese


 * If that image is to be renamed, that would have to be done at the Wikimedia Commons; see their instructions. However, since the file name already includes his dates of birth and death, as well as the continent (!), I'd say the chance of confusion with the German voice actor is so low that there's no need to bother with renaming it. Or to put it this way: If "Australia" is not enough of a clue that this isn't about the German voice actor, I doubt "C." would be. Huon (talk) 23:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

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