User talk:HJKeats/Archives/2019/November

Seven Stars Tavern
Good! (It's well past time somebody remembered to add that.) Thanks. That's an "interesting" reference you cite; why is an encyclopedia of "Newfoundland and Labrador" talking about an event in Baltimore 150+ years ago? Even more "interesting", how did you find it? (Is it on-line somewhere?) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 22:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

User page!
Go right ahead! User:Phaedriel and User:Antandrus did the main design for the page actually, and I just converted it into little subpage modules. (I have no idea how the coding for tables etc works.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

AFD
It's not too hard to do: And that's it. Bearcat (talk) 18:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Add  to the top of the article.
 * 2) Click on the redlink, and create the page with  ~ . Since it's a Canadian topic, add Canada —~ on a separate line under that before you save the page.
 * 3) Go to today's AFD page, and add  to the top of the list.
 * 4) Go to WikiProject Deletion sorting/Canada and add  to that page.

Volunteer Aid Detachment
Hello, in 2006, you created Volunteer Aid Detachment. It seems to be the same as Voluntary Aid Detachment. I redirected the article started by you to the other. I would like you to verify this, just to be on the safe side. Regards, --Xeph (talk) 20:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Richard Goodwin Keats
Done some work on Richard Goodwin Keats. As it was your article to begin with, I hope you approve. All the best Corneredmouse (talk) 15:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Augusta Barter
Hi. Another contributor brought the article Augusta Barter to Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems, noting that you had indicated in the article that it contained "Some excerpts from the book Surviving on the Headland by Donald Barter", but that these excerpts are not identified. You created this article many years ago, so I trust you know now that excerpting from books is a problem under Wikipedia's copyright policy, which requires that all non-free content be clearly marked and that it meet Wikipedia's non-free content policy and guideline. Since the book is not readily accessible, the article has been blanked and will be listed at Copyright problems for a week to permit time for the material to be properly attributed or rewritten. If you choose to rewrite it, please do so in the temporary space linked from the article's front. If the excerpts are brief and otherwise meet WP:NFC, we may be able to restore the article without changing content once those excerpts are clearly identified. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Since the article has been listed for over a week without these concerns being addressed, it has been deleted in accordance with copyright policy. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:47, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Philip VanBrugh
Hi, I have added some to this article which I see you started. I've noticed the distinctive capital B you have used in his name. I haven't noticed this anywhere else in his family (distant kin of mine) but that is not to say it was not the form he himself used. Eddaido (talk) 08:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Looking for help
I don't know how often you are on here anymore but I'm looking for help updating the Newfoundland and Labrador article. It's in hard shape so it needs lots of work, if you're interested you can contact me on what can be worked on. Newfoundlander&amp;Labradorian (talk) 03:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * In my sandbox User:Newfoundlander&Labradorian/Sandbox myself and Moxy, and hopefully others will contribute, are working on the history section for the Newfoundland and Labrador main article, it may be getting to long though. You can look at that if you like and contribute. A few paragraphs on confederation need to be wrote up but I'm unsure what exactly to write so if you have any ideas there please contribute. In the main article in general the culture and transportation sections need a good bit of work and an education section probably needs to be added. I've done some work with the government section and I'm planning on updating the economy section, but I'd like to see last years statistics first. Any area in generalon on that page you'd like to work on would be great, it's ridiculous it's only rated a C. There doesn't seem to be many NL Wikpedians anymore so it's hard to get help. Anyways hopefully you're interested and can help in some way. Newfoundlander&amp;Labradorian (talk) 15:46, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Wilson Kettle


The article Wilson Kettle has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. Redsky89 (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

L'Anse Amour, Newfoundland and Labrador
Hi HJKeats, Your 15 May 2007 edit included: "who are descendants of the crew of the HMS Raleigh". What was the source of that information? It is incorrect. I contacted Labrador Straits Historical Development Corporation, email: lshdc@labradorstraits.net, Bonnie Goudie. She confirmed that it is incorrect and removed it, (10 January 2014‎, Begoudie14). S Harry White


 * Hi S Harry White, it seems to be an un-sourced statement that is in error. I looked up the history of L'Anse Amour in the Encyclopedia of Newfoundland and Labrador and it makes no reference to the assertion. I also looked up the entry for HMS Raleigh and once again no reference to the assertion. I apologize for the mistake and hopefully it will not have caused any undo angst. Thanks for your astute observation and correcting my mistake. HJKeats (talk) 14:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Edit Cards



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Wikimania
The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

 * Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes.  The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
 * Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
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