User talk:HJ Mitchell/Archive 133

Using MMS for FAR notices
I saw you were trying to use MMS for FAR notifications. Were you successful? I've finally gotten the hang of it, so if you need help, let me know. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  14:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Sandy! No, I wasn't, I ended up doing it the old-fashioned way and opening 9 tabs and pasting the message. Have you documented your success anywhere for next time I need it? HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 14:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did ... but I'm heading out for an app't, and will have to remember where to find it ... ping me if I forget to get back to you ... Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Here you go ... I pounded it out kinda quickly, so let me know after you next do one if I missed anything or any clarification is needed: Bst, Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * User:SandyGeorgia/sandbox5


 * Thanks! I'll follow it next time I do an FAR, which isn't very often but often enough that speeding up the process is helpful! HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 17:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Sam van lustig
Might want to take talk page access away at User talk:Sam van lustig. He's... not happy. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 20:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't know if I can. I've destroyed Wikipedia apparently! HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 20:52, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * 718smiley.png &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 21:01, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Important!
This is mr Jimmy Wales and I have a small task I need you to complete for me as I am quite old now and want to spend the last of my days in a remote cabin. I need you to unban user User:Greogor Samsa3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.209.117.110 (talk) 20:27, 17 November 2023 (UTC)


 * ...and i'm the pope  Rema goxer  (talk) 20:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems legit. 😂 HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 20:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * er, I'm the Pope around here, thank you Pope Joan Knitsey (talk) 20:54, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Then you can finally answer the question about bear Catholicism and papal defecation? HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 23:33, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

AIV
You're crushing it today. I keep checking after closing an RFC to get a quick mindless palette cleanser and find at every contribs page I open you've already taken care of it. Thanks for the hard work. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:42, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @ScottishFinnishRadish Thanks, but Tamzin and Widr seem to be beating me to more than I'm getting! Unusually busy for a Saturday, though. HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 22:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It definitely seems busier than usual. I figured it'd be a good day to try and close more old RFCs since the weekends are normally pretty quiet. Luckily, many hands make light work, and I was able to focus on foreskins. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:56, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds like fun! I'm trying to write some articles that have been on my to-do list for ages and using AIV to procrastinate! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 23:06, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks Harry!

Drmies (talk) 23:16, 17 November 2023 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * @Drmies any time. I prefer puppies though! ;) <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 23:28, 17 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll get you one next time you help someone out. Wait, you do that pretty frequently. Drmies (talk) 23:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've always wanted a labrador puppy but the wife says no. :( <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 23:36, 17 November 2023 (UTC)



Sorry man. Listen, I'm cooking. Did we (Europeans) eat chicken thighs? I don't remember my mom ever cooking them, or them being in the store. We had breasts ("filet"), but what happened to the rest? Was it just whole chicken legs that people roasted? I get thighs all the time (and so does, apparently), but it seems such an un-Dutch thing to eat, at least for my generation. Drmies (talk) 00:06, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I recommend the beautiful book Art of the Chicken by Jacques Pépin. It is illustrated by Pépin's own paintings of chickens and plenty of recipes for egg dishes and chicken dishes. But not a single Dutch chicken dish, sadly. Cullen328 (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not my area of expertise but I'd imagine the thighs were eaten by the less well off after the rich were done with the "good" bits. Possibly in a stew or a casserole. I wouldn't have thought people would have wasted a whole chicken, especially in lean times. But not my area of expertise. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:11, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh I'm sure no one would have wasted it; I just wonder where they went. Did your mother cook chicken thighs? Did she cook breasts? Did she cook whole chickens? Drmies (talk) 13:40, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * In casseroles or stews sometimes. The thighs are considered "cheap meat", at least in England in my experience. I might use them for things that don't need the "good" meat, for example if they're being cooked in a sauce. Although there's not much difference in price these days between thighs and breasts. A whole chicken is reserved for a Sunday roast (if you've got a big family to feed). @SchroCat or @Worm That Turned probably know more about food history than I do. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 14:12, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * How did you sickos jump from "a kitten" to casseroles and stews?? - SchroCat (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That reminds me of one of the most controversial redirects in Wikipedia history! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 14:51, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not one of those from the admin that was redirecting "boobies" and the like, I hope...? - SchroCat (talk) 14:55, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * BTW, I've looked through a couple of old cookery books, back to Apicius, through Fettiplace, Glasse, Raffald, Acton, Rundell, etc, (as well as some French ones 'cos they seem to know a bit about cooking). Most of them talk about preparing whole chickens (unsurprising: these were books for and about cooking in the finer houses), but when they discuss breaking it down, it's always a split between the suprême and 'the rest' (one example is Maria Rundell's work which has two recipes to use a whole chicken: Chicken Panda - not what you think - with the white meat and a broth with the dark meat - others just talk about "the leg" of thigh and drumstick). Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ps. Delighted to see this. Good luck. - SchroCat (talk) 23:55, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Delighted to see your run
I'm sure you'll be a shoo-in and I'm looking forward to talking about how we can continue to improve ArbCom's functioning for the community. I presented a few thoughts on this at WCNA recently (slides here), and would be excited to chat more about our respective ideas. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 18:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * And, as for "still not entirely sure this is a good idea", nobody ever is KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 18:46, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kevin. I'm not sure I'm delighted, but that means a lot coming from you actually. I'll have a look at your slides when I get chance. How was WCNA? The idea of a European equivalent has been mooted and is something I'd love to help make happen. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:25, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I really enjoyed WCNA! It was the first Wikipedia conference I'd been to in a few years, and it was great to see some old faces. A pan-Europe wikiconference? Sounds fun! I can't help out directly since I'm actually on the committee that funds conferences, but it sounds like a great idea to me as long as it doesn't duplicate other European conferences in scope. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 19:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm delighted, too! Fantastic that you decided to run, after all :) Acalamari 06:12, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Impersonator
This IP is impersonating you. ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk ) 02:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @WikiOriginal-9 yeah that happens. See WP:ANI. Just revert, block (or report straight to AIV, don't bother with warnings), and ignore. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 11:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

113.255.214.84
Can this really be the man who used to slap blocks of 1001 days on editors? A 31 hour block for an IP address which has been the source of exactly the same kind of disruptive editing, clearly from one person, for two and a half months? JBW (talk) 22:25, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @JBW I still do the 1001-day blocks. But I almost always start at 31 hours for a first block for trivial vandalism but I leave them on my watchlist and I'll reblock for rapidly escalating durations if they don't get the hint (my usual pattern for escalation is 31h>a week>a month>six months>a year>1001 days, but I'll happily skip steps if necessary). <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 22:39, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * To be fair, the 1001 days thing is cool. Totally Judge Dredd. "Five years in the cubes, punk!" 😀  ——Serial  22:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Evaluation request
I am wondering how iam doing? •C y b erw o l f• talk? 17:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cyberwolf apologies for the delay in getting back to you. Is there anything in particular you'd like feedback on or are you looking for broad nrush strokes? <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 23:53, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Nothing particular but would like to know the points I need to work on •C y b erw o l f• talk? 00:01, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Indefinitely semi-protected or extended confirmed protected pages needing prior PC settings reset
Hi, the following indefinitely semi-protected or extended confirmed protected pages have not had their prior PC settings reset for whatever reason.


 * Huw Jenkins
 * Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh
 * PlayStation
 * JaVale McGee
 * Googol
 * World's Biggest Liar
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 * List of emoticons
 * South Asia
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 * Terry Bean
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 * Jennifer Caron Hall
 * Courtney Stodden
 * Candy Crush Saga
 * Knowledge Kids (redirect page)
 * List of video games considered the best
 * Zoe Sugg
 * Young Thug
 * Camille Rowe
 * Amit Mehta
 * Black Lives Matter
 * Heartbreak on a Full Moon
 * Zeeshan Khan (squash player)
 * Gaza Strip
 * Government
 * January 1

As an admin, would you please take care of this issue for each of the above pages at your earliest convenience? Thanks in advance. Something&#39;s Blue (talk) 23:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Something's Blue it's not really time critical and some of those might not be protected forever. I'll take a look at some point but not at nearly midnight. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 23:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note that Something's Blue was blocked as a sockpuppet of CalebHughes. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:58, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not surprised! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:15, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

A dubious kitten for you!
i'm just bored out of my MIND!

Sangsangaplaz (talk) 16:22, 21 November 2023 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>


 * Thanks! Cute kitten but I like the dog better! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 16:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

AE
Thanks for your comments. I'm happy to revise my statement but would appreciate some coaching where you think I could improve. I've already acknowledged I accept the inclusion of those videos? WCM email 21:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I'd like to hear you say you'll tread more carefully in ARBPIA in future and take a stricter view of the 1RR, especially when someone tells you you've stepped over it. With that, I'd be happy to close with no action. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:42, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

To promote WikiLove
Also, your editnotice's picture gave me a REAL good laugh. :) ThatOneWolf (talk 23:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

202.180.122.12
They're edit warring on their user talk page, as the blocking admin could you yank their TPA?  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 00:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks like Materialscientist handled it. <span style="font-family:monospace,Courier;color:#414245">#prodraxis connect 04:59, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Advice re Landmark Worldwide
Hi Harry, I would appreciate your advice in respect of the recent burst of activity on the Landmark Worldwide page, as it seems to involve multiple violations of the Arbitrators' conclusions in the [] arbitration case, and you were the Admin who applied the protection on 5th March 2015 after the close of that case.

There have been repeated instances of edit warring, wholesale instant reversions, refusal to discuss matters on the talk page, personal attacks, and failure to remain civil or Assume Good Faith.

I can go into far more detail if you would like, but a quick glance at talk:Landmark Worldwide, and at the edit history of the article over the past 5 weeks will give you an idea of my concerns.

This activity was initiated by with a posting on the NPOV noticeboard ], where he starts by describing  LM as a 'weird cult', and yet repeatedly claims to have no interest or knowledge on the topic. But enough, apparently, to make about a dozen edits, and post 65 comments on the talk page in the past month!

He also seems to be wikihounding me, and has posted 8 aggressive comments on my talk page.

Thank you. DaveApter (talk) 11:14, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Dave, Harry here is a very experienced Wikipedian. I don't think you can fool him. Harry, if you need any links let me know. Polygnotus (talk) 11:31, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Quick question
Is it possible to nominate an article for both WP:FA and WP:GA? If not, then what is the right procedure? .  dxneo  (talk) 12:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * A featured article will replace good article, if it is there. WP:FA says many of them were good articles at one point but not all of them. They don't have to have previously been good articles, then, from what I understand. So, you could nominate one for GA, and then FA, or just nominate it for FA, if you think it's good enough. Hope this answers your question! -- <b style="color:white">ThatOneWolf</b> (<b style="color:white">Chat</b><b style="color:white">Edits</b> 15:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , so if I've already nominated Mass Country for GA, then I'll have to wait til consensus is reached before I can nominate it for FA?  dxneo  (talk) 22:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dxneo You'll either need to wait for a GA review to conclude or withdraw the GA nomination. GA can be hit and miss but if you get a good reviewer the feedback can be well worth the wait and can make sure the article is looking its best for FAC. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 22:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Civil Service Rifles War Memorial
Hi Harry, I'm just confirming that this will run at WP:Today's featured article/January 2024 on 27 January, the date you requested at WP:TFAP. Feel free to edit or comment, and let me know if you have any questions. - Dank (push to talk) 05:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dan. I don't remember requesting it but that's fine. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * My mistake, the request came from . - Dank (push to talk) 14:01, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion
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November thanks
Thank you for standing to become arbitrator! My story today is Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his, - the composer, born OTD 110 years ago, didn't want it shorter (but the publisher), - more here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for a reply to my cand question. I may discuss it after tomorrow's concert when we will sing the Mozart and listen to Pärt's urgent call for peace played by the strings, - I'm not in the mood before ;) - Enjoy time with your mother! - I mentioned Pärt for a reason, could have been Beethoven as well, in other words: I believe it's time for a fresh look, as we were told 10 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding your answer: 1) Please point me at where you think "roving bands of editors who turn up in every infobox discussion" are active, because I haven't seen them. We even had years without discussions, remember? 2) I wonder what you'd expect from a sitewide consensus, when the conflict is not sitewide - everybody reading Wikipedia can easily see that infoboxes are almost everywhere - but local: they are contentious only in a small corner of subjects, in articles by a small group of editors. I met the disputes in 2012, for Samuel Barber (where I opposed for redundancy, but understood within a day that the redundancy serves readers with different needs). Brian Boulton added a compromise to Chopin as a RfC result in 2015. I thought that would settle it, dreamer that I am ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Today: in memoriam Jerome Kohl who said (In Freundschaft): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

WP:PERM/AP
Hello HJ, could you please help process my request? WP:PERM/AP is currently backlogged. – <b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b> (talk) 18:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I was hoping to do some article work today but I'll add clearing out PERM to my to-do list! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 18:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks – <b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b> (talk) 18:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Contentious topics help
HJ, I was wondering if you could help me out. I try to avoid arbitration enforcement completely, but I stumbled onto a problem in the Arab-Israeli conflict topic that I am now floundering in. It concerns a brand new editor, and two related articles, Harvard Law Review and Apsara Iyer (president of the Harvard Law Review). Neither article is directly related to the A-I topic, but the content being edited is.

I believe that the editor should not be permitted to edit the material in the articles because they are not extended-confirmed. I left a CT alert on their Talk page a few minutes ago (it took me a while to find the template), and I reverted the two edits they made on the articles, restoring the related material. I have also left a personalized warning on the editor's Talk page.

Are my warnings right? Do I need to put templates on the two article Talk pages, something about "related content" I vaguely recall? I want to make sure I've covered all the bases if I believe the editor should later be sanctioned.

Sorry this is so rambling. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Bbb23 Hey! You're correct that that editor does not have the standing to make those edits. The templates you're thinking of are Contentious topics/talk notice. You also have the option of EC protecting the articles (though you'd have to log that at WP:AELOG) as a less personal response. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 18:18, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. The editor I mentiioned has not edited either article. However, an even newer editor has been editing Harvard Law Review only. They haven't been removing the material, just editing it, but the same problem exists. Before going out to lunch, I slapped a notice on their Talk page, which they ignored. I then reverted their subsequent edits, gave them a final warning, and put the notice you pointed me to on the article itself. More questions. Given that I reverted them, can I still block them? It's a bit like reverting vandalism - I don't think WP:INVOLVED applies, but I don't feel like getting in trouble while trying to protect the encyclopedia. Same question as to adding ECB protection on the article. Finally, if I do add protection, how long? It's not like it's an A-I article. I was thinking a week and then seeing if things quiet down.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * A week would be reasonable. It'll all be forgotten at some point. I wouldn't say you're involved just for reverting the rdits. You're just enforcing the restrictions, not passing judgement on the subject matter. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation
Hi HJ Mitchell. I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss 🍀 (talk) 13:14, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
Hello HJ Mitchell, I hope you're doing well. Could you please review my contributions and consider granting me Autopatrolled rights? If not, I appreciate any feedback or suggestions you may have. Thank you for your consideration. <b style="color:#FF0000">C1K98V</b> (💬 ✒️ 📂) 14:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @C1K98V At a glance, you more than meet the numerical criteria. But I'm concerned that your articles don't contain a lot of prose and you often create articles with empty sections and don't seem to go back to flesh them out later. That tells me perhaps a second look at your creations is worthwhile, and doesn't tell me that you have the understanding of the nuances of policy that&mdash;should you start writing about politicians or athletes, for example&mdash;your articles would be clean enough not to need a second glance. So I'm afraid the answer is a no from me at the moment. I'd happily reconsider if you started writing more substantial articles without empty sections (even a sentence or two for a brief synopsis is better than nothing) and ideally fully formatted your references so readers can identify the source. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 14:47, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking into my request. I understand if you are not able to grant me the Autopatrol rights at the moment. No problem. To be honest, I don't mind getting my creations reviewed by a second eye. However, I have made a mistake in the past with copyright violation, and I am grateful to the community for giving me the chance to address the issue. I have learned my lesson that I am not competent in writing plot, synopsis, and reception sections, and I do not intend to work in these areas. Does it appears that the references used in my creations are not properly formatted? I will work on improving my past creations, and I value your feedback and suggestions.<span id="C1K98V:1701277148134:User_talkFTTCLNHJ_Mitchell" class="FTTCmt"> — <b style="color:#FF0000">C1K98V</b> (💬 ✒️ 📂) 16:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The main issue with your references is that they don't list works/publishers so a reader can't tell at a glance where the information came from. Try using the RefToolbar and fill in as many of the fields as you can (if you click the little magnifying glass it might fill some of them in for you). <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 17:03, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * When creating an article, I like to use the Citation Bot and Refill Toolforge to expand the references. I have also learned about IABot, which is used to create an archive link for the references. I was wondering if Reftoolbar works in a similar manner?<span id="C1K98V:1701278362765:User_talkFTTCLNHJ_Mitchell" class="FTTCmt"> — <b style="color:#FF0000">C1K98V</b> (💬 ✒️ 📂) 17:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I know there are lots of different interface options. My screen looks completely different to most people's! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 17:30, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!
It means a lot! AntiDionysius (talk) 21:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Always happy to help! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:13, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Block evasion?
Hi, you blocked a couple of weeks ago for non constructive editing at Gosford High School. You might want to look at the new editor there who made the same edit,. Thanks Melcous (talk) 22:37, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Melcous thanks. Blocked. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 23:52, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

IP block evasion
Hi HJ Mitchell, recently you blocked the User:W688 account after a report I made at UAA. The exact external link that it added to an article is this one. Seems to me like a website that is selling a service, at the very least none of the content in it looks relevant to the subject of the article.

Just today, an IP address 112.199.123.202 reverted my edit to reinstate that external link on the article. Should we enable autoblock for the account (or block the IP)? — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  05:28, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Followup: I have reverted the IP's edits twice by now, but they just reverted me for the third time (diff). I'll leave it to you to decide if this is spam or not as I'm at three reverts for that exact external link addition. The 3RRNO exemption #8 states Reverting unambiguous spam, where the content would be eligible for page deletion under criterion G11 if it were a standalone page., however the IP's addition is just a single external link, to the page number of a reference apparently, rather than a complete writing of spam.

Seems to me like they googled for "W688" for something to spam their website under, which led them to that Wikipedia article, thus adding in the link to try and get a higher presence in search engine rankings.

The user has been warned with a level 2 warning for adding spam links, alongside a previous notice about the use of IP addresses to evade blocks of accounts to repeat disruptive edits. The latest diff above comes after this lvl 2 warning. — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  09:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @AP 499D25 I've hard blocked the IP. Hopefully they'll get the hint. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:03, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks!
 * Would 3RRNO exemtion #8 apply to undoing that edit? I haven't reverted it yet. — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  10:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd have thought so, yes. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:13, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, done. I thought you assumed good faith towards that User:W688 account, as you had placed a soft block rather than a hard one. — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  10:19, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I did assume good faith. They only added one link and it was related to their username, so they got a soft block. They obviously didn't get the hint that their edit was problematic because they made it again, even after a spam warning. Hopefully the IP block will get their attention. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 10:47, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Report
Hello, I have submitted a report to Administrator intervention against vandalism. Could you please handle it and let me know what I did wrong? Thank you. <b style="color:#FF0000">C1K98V</b> (💬 ✒️ 📂) 10:18, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @C1K98V I'm not HJ Mitchell, but I am an editor who's been around for more than a year and used the various user misconduct resolution methods several times before (e.g. AIV, ANI, ANEW), and got a good understanding of them. Looking at that report of yours, it seems like the edits the user made did not fall into what's considered "obvious vandalism". I'm going to assume good faith and think that the user reverted the page move because they disagreed with taking out the disambiguating terms in parentheses in the article title. Their reasoning of "reverting deliberate vandalism and abuse by last editor" does seem very inappropriate for that move revert however.
 * Since you made a bold move and they have reverted it, the next thing you'll need to do if you want to continue with this, is start a requested move on the article talk page, with an explanation of why you think it should be moved to the title without the parentheses.
 * If you think there's a serious misconduct issue with the user, then there is Administrators' Noticeboard/Incidents (ANI), for user conduct disputes. Note that in cases where there is not immediate and obvious misconduct, ANI is only to be used if the user continues editing disruptively after you have engaged in (or tried to engage in) article talk page discussion with them, as well as trying out the other content dispute resolution methods if appropriate.
 * Hope that helps a lot. — <span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25  (talk)  10:41, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * AP 499D25, It is not required (don't want to increase unnecessary workload for page movers) to open a move request, as it is clear that there should not be any disambiguation since there is only one Wikipedia article on the topic. Yes, this is a serious misconduct by the user. As I have also been blamed and abused at the same time. If you want, you can refer to my talk page and check the history. But as HJ Mitchell, declined my request, it may be due to posting it at the wrong venue or their belief that it was my fault.<span id="C1K98V:1701428912927:User_talkFTTCLNHJ_Mitchell" class="FTTCmt"> — <b style="color:#FF0000">C1K98V</b> (💬 ✒️ 📂) 11:08, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @C1K98V you can take it to ANI if you want but you're better off ignoring the rudeness and proceeding via RM. Getting into a move war won't do anyone any good. I've left some advice for the other editor though. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 11:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

AP Permission
This is another legit account of QuadriSyedSahab, i requested for Autopatrolled but you declined by stating about a SPI, where i was taken without any proofs and I wasn’t blocked also. I just clear that I’m not a Sockpuppet of any user, I’m an independent user. I am contributing about Sufism in India, a vast subject which was never attended by anyone. Look at my contributions pls, if you don’t want to give the permission just have a small look. Thanks — Syed A. Hussain Quadri (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Open Proxies
Hi,

I know you have seen me reporting open proxies to AIV, the main list I use is WP:Open proxy detection. Would you be fine with me handing you a big list of OPs on this page so you can block them? Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 19:23, 1 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Seawolf35 if they have recent edits here, especially unhelpful edits, then absolutely. If they haven't been used here recently I'm usually content to let the experts handle it as and when. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 20:25, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I might go find a checkuser or somebody who knows IPs and the works very well and dump the list on them. Cheers, Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 20:26, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 4 December 2023
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December music
Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl (mentioned in November) said something wise on Copland's talk, - yes, regarding a soft(er) stance towards infoboxes. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Did you check out the history of the infobox of Callas? Compare Jessye Norman, Kathleen Ferrier and Jenny Lind. Did you check out the history of Copland? Compare Max Reger, Max Beckschäfer, Colin Mawby (from today's story), and Benjamin Britten (who died OTD). What's the difference? If what you see changes your answer to my question, feel free to change, and ping me. I would like to see a way to avoid in the future hundreds of editors commenting on Mozart RfCs, just to kind of restore the infobox he had. Happy new era ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Why I said I felt bullied at Talk:A Christmas Carol
In the whole process, SchroCat has talked down to me. He refused to listen to the perfectly legit reasons I had for that information being in the article. And as soon as others agreed with him, he started shoving it in my face. And this wouldn't be anywhere near the first time he's acted like that. When I warned SchroCat about it, he replied Don't come to my talk page and lie. p b  p  20:52, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Purplebackpack89 that's not an accurate summary of the situation. SchroCat was possibly a little less friendly than I would have been if this dispute was over one of my FAs but all of his comments on the talk page have been related to the article's content. You have taken the discussion to user talk pages, personalised the dispute, addressed him by a term he explicitly asked you not to, and added unneeded sarcasm. You would have been better off making your case politely but sometimes you have to accept that consensus is against you. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * And the part where SchroCat accused me of lying? p  b  p  21:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PBP, I apologise for the comment, but your rather incendiary warning claiming I had made a personal attack and the edit summary "this guy's been attacking and bullying people for years and darned if he's going to bully me now" were not true - or at least as far as I am concerned. I have made no personal attacks on the Christmas Carol talk page, but if you think I have, then I must have phrased something so badly that it's gone beyond my original meaning and into something I still can't see, even after re-reading the whole thread several times. I am sorry if there is anything there you think is a personal attack, but that was not my intent at any stage. - SchroCat (talk) 21:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC) ps. Don't worry: I don't think this is you - it's an obvious troll trying to make mischief, nothing else. - SchroCat (talk) 22:05, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PBP, you lost a content dispute, attacked the editor you disagreed with, and you expect what, sunshine and rainbows in response? You need to at the very least acknowledge your role if you want to criticise another editor's conduct. But why not take a breath, try to take the heat out of the situation, and make a suggestion for an edit you feel would improve the article. Consensus might still be against you but I'm sure nobody minds a nice, calm discussion about the content. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Request
Dear HJ Mitchell, Hello, I'm created 28 articles releated to Indian politicians, and those are biography and they fullfill all creteria of WP:BLP but I have not an autopatrollers right, can you grant me this right after reviewing my article?. 😊 αvírαm  | (tαlk) 15:54, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * No. I think you're hat collecting. You already have just about every right it's possible to get without being an admin. There is no way you're patrolling new articles, patrolling recent changes, working at RM, *and* writing immaculate articles. Autopatrolled exists solely to help NPP, not the editor so this refusal will have no effect on your editing. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?  17:41, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Dearchiving
This revert is a bit puzzling. Misclick? Favonian (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Favonian must be! Didn't even realise I'd done it! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:50, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

User talk:Chessyburn
You may wish to revoke TPA. Cahk (talk) 08:05, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cahk done, tyvm. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 08:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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Nomination of Port Harcourt bus electrocution for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Port Harcourt bus electrocution is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Port Harcourt bus electrocution until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 19:41, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Please block this LTA IP address. It's completely chaos.
Hello @HJ Mitchell, please block this block evasion/LTA IP address:

This IP address has kept spamming & adding unsourced information on multiple Disney related articles for the past few hours. No matter how many times I revert, the IP address will undo it no matter what. This is likely a block evasion of IP address User talk:136.169.173.251, which you blocked for a year. I've already reported this to the WP:AIV and the WP:ANI, however no answer. Your help will be appreciated. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 13:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, could you please take a look at what this IP address is doing at the Edit filter/False positives/Reports. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 13:58, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * IP editor from Bashkortostan in the past used to add unsourced content to Disney Channel (Scandinavian TV channel), Disney Channel (Russian TV channel) and Discovery Science (European TV channel). (diff 1, diff 2, diff 3) -- LDM 2003 talk to me! 14:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've blocked the IP for 31 hours for disruptive editing. The edits aren't actually that disruptive, though. Is there a major difference between "co-produced" and "produced and distributed"? And if there is, why isn't it cited in the article? You've given me no evidence at all that this is an LTA or block evasion (the other IP you mentioned is not blocked and I've never blocked it; it was blocked briefly in August). I saw the AIV report and didn't think it was actionable; many other reports were actioned in that time so I'm guessing other admins thought likewise. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 15:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @HJ Mitchell, I may have misread the IP address block. The IP address "range" was blocked by you for one year . 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 15:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, that makes more sense. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 15:17, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Possible G4
Hello HJ! I was wondering if you could take a look at the deleted version of King Saha and let me know if it would be valid for a G4 deletion. As I'm not an admin I can't really do so, so I was hoping you'd be able to let me know. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze&#95;&#95;wolf 15:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Blaze Wolf my speedies are predominantly G11 so I'm not an expert in how it's interpreted but if someone forced me to look at that one I'd probably send it for another AfD. The latest version is a little bit more substantial than the last version that was deleted&mdash;the structure is largely the same but the sections are each a few sentences longer. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 16:07, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Thanks for the response. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze&#95;&#95;wolf 16:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi
I mailed you the next day after you replied 2 weeks ago, once I knew it's okay to work on sending and shaping short explanations; and another to ask a week ago. So I want to make sure it was sent, and if you can advise-reply there. Thank you. אומנות (talk) 18:30, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I asked you to send me links and you didn't. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 18:38, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ￼I did... I sent one of 5 links with short explanations, though few minutes afterwards I sent another separate link-less one to further explain my difficulty and personal hurt as to why I turn on mail. Maybe you only saw the last one, or the first wasn't sent? Anyway I'm sorry for the mixup. If you can't see it, I will copy paste and send this specific message. It's on my mail. Thanks again. :-) אומנות (talk) 19:06, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I sent again, this time directly to the mail address and not in the 2 previous messages chain. Please let me know if you received. אומנות (talk) 23:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you found the previous message, I wasn't sure, so sent again, and at this chance also shaped the message a bit further and added few sentences for recent-days developments going further complex on that same route, with 2 more links. I understand it can take time to review, just please let me know if you see it. Thank you. אומנות (talk) 23:36, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Can you tell me HJ Mitchell - if you have access today (when you're on Wikipedia) to email as well? If so, can you look for a sec today for the content with explanations and links which I worked on further yesterday, as from what I wrote and thought I managed to send 2 weeks ago? This way I'll know not to wait more days to ask and realize it wasn't sent again, and I'll know to wait for an advise for if/what is most safe to proceed, also for my calmness, when you'll get available to address the message itself. אומנות (talk) 19:07, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Request
Hello, would you mind temporarily semi-protecting Don Knotts and doing some revdel of the clearly defamatory remarks? There seems to be an LTA attacking the page. — MATRIX! (a good person!)&#91;citation unneeded&#93; 21:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Matrix I've blocked the IP and I'm watching the article. I'll protect it if necessary but they'll just move to a different article. I don't think you can defame someone who's been dead for nearly 18 years. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:29, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Your block of User:Nupter1234
Hello, I had User talk:Nupter1234 on my watchlist, and I noticed that you blocked them definitely for vandalism. Their only contributions so far were to their user page and what seemed to me as a good-faith attempt at creating an article (permalink). I was wondering if you could explain your reasoning further. Or maybe there is a socking/LTA issue that I'm not aware of. Thanks :) Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 20:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Thriftycat They came through AIV for repeatedly triggering the edit filter, specifically by blanking pages (or a page, the Free Russia redirect). <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah okay sorry, forgot to check the filter log Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 21:02, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing that too. I could see that as a first step in trying to make that redirect into an article. If I and Thrifty keep an eye on their contribs moving forward, would you be comfortable with an unblock? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Firefangledfeathers I assumed it was some sort of ethno-nationalist POV pushing, but if I'm wrong and you think they have something to offer, please feel free. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oof. I don't know if I'd go as far as "have something to offer", but I'll give it a shot. Starting with some dialogue at their user talk and we'll see what happens. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

talk page access block needed at User talk:5.14.144.190
Ip is now doing personal attacks in edit summaries to their talk page. Shadow311 (talk) 17:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Ip has now threatened to use legal action. Shadow311 (talk) 17:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Shadow311 (talk) 17:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shadow311 any time. Nice polite fellow! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 17:07, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Bringing to your attention.
Hi @HJ Mitchell I am here to inform you something. You blocked for using Wikipedia for spam. I think he has returned with a sock account. If you see their contributions they want to add the same thing. I am not filling a sock report bcoz the backlog is too much. Rest I leave it on you. Thank you.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 18:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Shaan Sengupta thank you. I've blocked the new account. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @HJ Mitchell Thank you so much for quick action. Although I am not the right person, but I would suggest you to file an SPI just for the record so that if they return again they are dealt with easily. This is just a suggestion rest you are wise.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 19:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thankfully they're not very subtle so if they return again they're likely to be blocked for spamming again though perhaps a friendly neighbourhood checkuser might care to dig deeper? @Kevin was the last one hit my watchlist... <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:29, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Was only able to spend a minute looking but no obvious other accounts. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 19:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Autopatrolled with bogus sources
Hello : I see you recently granted autopatrolled to Tumbuka Arch. You might be interested in the discussion I opened at User talk:Tumbuka Arch. Articles like Evariste Niyonkuro, with sources published before any event described in the article are obviously not valid, and these articles do not belong to mainspace, especially since some of them might be BLP (even if the article talks about them in past tense, there's no death date, and if they are alive, that's a violation of BLP on its own). MarioGom (talk) 17:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Industrial agriculture closed
Hello ,

I'll copy this here because finding 6 mentions your partial block.

An arbitration case, Arbitration/Requests/Case/Industrial agriculture, has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:


 * and are prohibited from interacting with, or commenting on, each other anywhere on Wikipedia (subject to the ordinary exceptions). This restriction may be appealed twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.
 * Leyo is admonished for battleground behavior, personal attacks, and use of administrator tools while INVOLVED. Leyo is INVOLVED in the topic area of genetically modified organisms, industrial agriculture, commercially produced agricultural chemicals, the effects of all three, and organizations or companies involved, broadly construed. Future instances of this kind of conduct may result in sanction, including removal of adminship, without warning, especially if it is INVOLVED tool use.
 * KoA is warned for edit warring and is reminded to engage in good faith when resolving their disputes.

For the Arbitration Committee, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Discuss this at: 

Merry Christmas!

 * Thanks, . All the best to you and yours as well. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 16:10, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!
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Block evasion by User:Jordison.francisco;
Hi HJ, I need help with a sock of Jordison.francisco,, whom I reported to ANI to no avail. Thanks, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. I've blocked the/64. Hopefully that will do the trick but if they evade that let me know. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 16:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you and cheers, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:06, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Voting for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023 is now open!
Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023! The the top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki. Cast your votes vote here and here respectively. Voting closes at 23:59 on 30 December 2023. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2023
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Vandal cleanup
Thanks for nipping the latest Tada-Perfect IP. It's long-term, a few admins have taken a sledgehammer to the ranges, so I expanded your single-IP likewise. DMacks (talk) 18:50, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @DMacks Fine with me. Not a case I'm familiar with; I was just cleaning out AIV. I didn't have time to look into it more deeply but I could see at a glance that it had been going on a while. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

A solstice greeting
<div style="border:2px solid gold; box-shadow: 0 1px 3px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35); background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #FCFCFC 0%,#F5F5F5 100%); text-align:center; padding:24px; border-radius:7px; width:75%; line-height:2em;"> ❄️Happy holidays!❄️

Hi Harry! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. I always appreciate your insights and contributions. Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb }&#125;  talk

&#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Sdkb Thank you. All the best to you and yours. No snow here, just the typical English rain! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:41, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

メリークリスマス！ (Merry Christmas)
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:red; background-color:#fff; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. 🛧 Midori No Sora♪ 🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈  ) 01:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (this was about a block on an AIV report for a Japanese LTA, thread was not started by me) <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x Deadbeef →∞ (talk to me) 10:03, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Edit summary suppression
Hi Harry, please could you suppress the most recent offensive edit summary on Silicon dioxide (revision id 1191769141). Cheers and Happy Christmas. Polyamorph (talk) 19:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Polyamorph, I don't think it meets any of the criteria for either suppression (oversight) or revision deletion. It's a mildly offensive personal attack but doesn't seem to be directed any identifiable person so it's closer to "ordinary incivility", which is explicitly excluded from the criteria. Also, there may come a time when the community needs to review the IP's conduct for example and deleting the edit summary would make that harder. In general, I think revdel is massively overused for run-of-the-mill stuff . I wouldn't be surprised if another admin has already deleted it before I've finished typing but I don't think there's a basis in policy to do so. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:57, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I warned the IP already anyway. Thanks for looking at it. Polyamorph (talk) 20:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks
I appreciate it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:58, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @ScottishFinnishRadish Any time. Which apparently includes 10pm on Christmas Day! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 21:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Everyone needs a hobby, I guess? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I wish certain people would find a different one! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 22:02, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

2A00:6020:4A09:EA00:44E7:7641:9F0E:C7B
Said user edited the page on Benin. They replaced the flag with another one. That flag had a crowned elephant. OMGShay 92 (talk) 00:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @OMGShay 92 I'm sure there's a reason you're telling me this but without context I can't guess what it is. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 08:39, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benin&oldid=1191324542 OMGShay 92 (talk) 23:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks!
I noticed you blocked an account that was impersonating me. Thanks for catching that! Annierau (talk) 03:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Annierau you're more than welcome. I have no time for that kind of nonsense. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 11:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Congrats and YGM
Congrats. I'm looking forward to serving together. Also you've got mail. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * You are going to have mail every second of every day for the next two years actually. Good Luck! Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 02:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ugh, the mail. Good luck indeed HJ. :) – bradv  03:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

2024 Arbitration Committee
The Arbitration Committee welcomes the following new and returning arbitrators following their election by the community. The two-year terms of these arbitrators formally begin on 1 January 2024:

Upon meeting the Wikimedia Foundation's criteria for access to non-public personal data and signing the Foundation's non-public information confidentiality agreement, all incoming arbitrators will be subscribed to all Committee-managed email lists, assigned the CheckUser and Oversight permissions for use in office, and given access to the CheckUser and Oversight queues on the VRTS system.

We also thank our outgoing colleagues whose terms end on 31 December 2023:

Outgoing arbitrators are eligible to retain the CheckUser and Oversight permissions, to remain active on cases accepted before their term ended, and to remain subscribed to the functionaries' and arbitration clerks' mailing lists following their term on the committee. To that effect:
 * Stewards are requested to remove the permission(s) noted from the following outgoing arbitrators, who have not elected to retain them, after 31 December 2023:
 * CheckUser: Enterprisey, Izno, SilkTork
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