User talk:HJ Mitchell/Archive 22

A Request (Two, actually)
Two things, both involving Motto of the day. First: Put up an MotD template (which can be found on the main page) on your userpage or I'll slap you with a WikiTrout. :) Second: We (I) have just finished setting up our new Motto Shop, and need a first customer. You can find out more about it there. Would you be interested in such a thing?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) No, because I'm lazy, but you can do it for me if you want. ;) 2)Could be interesting, can I pay in those Zimbabwean dollars Courelles used to bribe everyone with at his RfA? Oh, and it's currently 03:20 here, can it wait 'til daylight? HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   02:20, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * First, alright. :) Second, it can't, because then it'll be nighttime here. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:24, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * OK then, I've made my request. Hopefully it'll be something worth getting out of bed for! ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   02:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll make sure it is. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Every time I see that MOTD banner, I'm afraid I have new messages! :) — MC10 (T•C•GB•L)  01:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi
I requested IP Block Exemption.  Fridae'§Doom &#124;  Spare your time?  02:52, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Your new motto


What do you think? I think it's pretty funny, but I may be a bit biased... :P  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:52, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for fixing that, White Shadows. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. Goodbye and Goodnight from the East Coast :)-- White Shadows It's a wonderful life 02:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * So, Mr. Motto Shop's first ever customer, what do you think of your new motto? Is it good enough? Or shall I have to throw it away and start again? :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Huh? What's this? dffgd   talk · edits  14:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Its a motto made by people from the motto shop. Maybe you could make a request? Derild  49  21  ☼  16:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, but I'm pretty sure I made that one on my own. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I've made a request. :) dffgd   talk · edits  02:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

User space for self-promotion?
Could you take a look at User talk:MatthewG816 and let me know if what he's doing is against WP policy on self-promotion? Since it's his talk page I wasn't sure what (if any) action to take. Thanks. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks on wheels
for the recent block, when other admins declined it... you really are a fantastic admin! Tommy! [ message ] 15:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't know it had been declined by another admin, but I just glanced at their contribs and saw your point! Banhammer on wheels! HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   15:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * =D Tommy!  [ message ]

Deleted Edits
I have 3 deleted edits. These edits were deleted today, but I have only been working to repair stub articles. What does this mean?Epicstonemason (talk) 17:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It means your edit has been removed, most likely because someone expanded the article and removed the stub tag. At least, I think that's what it means. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.  N419 BH  19:55, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 3 is nothing. I have around 94 and HJ has thousands.  Mr. R00t    Talk  19:57, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You started an article, Unidentifiable, which was speedy deleted under criteria A3 by User:JamesBWatson. You should discuss it further with him. Courcelles (talk) 19:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Adminstrator
What does it take to be an administrator? I'm wondering because I will want to be one soon. Thanks! ActivExpression TalkGuestbook 19:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a guide over at WP:GRFA, but HJ probably has more personal advice.  Allmightyduck   What did I do wrong? 19:22, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

What does it take to become a reviewer?Epicstonemason (talk) 19:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A little more patience than begging for the flag in your edit summaries in article space. See WP:Reviewing. Courcelles (talk) 19:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It says in above the "edit summary" box: "Briefly describe the changes you have made". I don't think asking to become reviewer falls into that description. — MC10 (T•C•GB•L)  01:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Main Page
Visiting http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mаin_Page turns me up at the red link now and doesn't auto-redirect me to the main page. Therefore can it be restored? -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 20:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's very, very strange. Damn vandals! Trust them to find a way to break the Main Page! I've redirected and fully protected both the article and talk page. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you try purging? After it was deleted and before I purged, when I typed in "Main Page" I got the message "Did you mean Main Page?" very strange indeed. Marcus   Qwertyus   20:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe there's a bug then the redirect is a perfect workaround so it doesn't seem worth worrying about any further. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 20:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Motto thing
I've added in a new feature; after you get your motto,you get to rate it. So go to the request that I did for you, and you can let me know how I did. :) It's a new parameter in the template that you add a number to. And once sonia finishes your new one, you can rate that one too. I hope you like your mottos! :) Don't forget to plaster them on your userpage! :P  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


 * If you could do that somewhat soon, it would be fantastic, because I don't want to have it forgotten, and have an unfinished request be archived. :) Sorry for bothering you.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

You've got an email...
...which is apparently nothing new. C628 (talk) 23:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, is this a record? 4 sections at once! #Email, #Ding!, #Email, and this! Wow. You ought to have a dedicated section HJ! :) dffgd   talk · edits  02:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Note
I mentioned you in a blogpost here. If you don't want your name mentioned please tell me at my talk page, not here. Thanks  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Copyright process heads-up
Regarding at least Irish Planning Institute, the appropriate process for dealing with articles where the content has been copied but permission is asserted is (in addition to declining the speedy deletion as you did) to blank the article using, as many OTRS releases never come through or are inadequate. Copyright violations has more details if you feel like wading through it. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 12:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

No section name
Hi, you reviewed my article submission a couple weeks ago and denied it because you said it wasn't written in a formal tone. Could you give me some specifics? I have been asked to resubmit this but don't want it to be denied again - not sure what I'm doing wrong. Thanks! The name is Water Education Foundation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdouglas717 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: I have added the header because none was given. dffgd   talk · edits

Hello HJ!
Would you mind helping out at WP:UAA? There's a bit of a backlog. Thanks buddy Tommy!  [ message ] 19:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And along the same lines, there are a few waiting at WP:RFPP, though not as many as at UAA! :) dffgd   talk · edits  19:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * UAA backlog? What backlog? ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

31 hour blocks
Hi! Are 31 hour blocks some sort of standard preset/procedure many administrators use for example personal attacks or harrasment? I also see it is often used for IP addresses vandalizing. / Hey Mid  (contributions) 20:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't speak for other admins, but I tend to prefer 31 hour blocks for IP vandals, as quite often vandals will be on a time-table - they might have a regular class at school, for example. With a 24 hour block the block will end right in time for their next class. With 31 hour blocks their next class rolls along, but they're still blocked. For much the same reason I don't normally tell editors like this how long they're blocked for. (For a registered editor I would always tell them how long they were blocked for). TFOWR 20:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Speaking as someone who has been blocked, usually in error I hasten to add, you get a message saying when the block expires when you try and edit anyway. O Fenian (talk) 20:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Speaking as someone who has also been blocked, sometimes in error, I'm surprised I didn't know that ;-) Huh. There goes my big anti-vandal plan! TFOWR 20:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, but that still doesn't defeat the rationale for 31-hours blocks. FYI this has been discussed at MediaWiki talk:Ipboptions. – xeno talk  20:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh - there used to be a 15 minute option. (I guess there still is, manually). I bet that annoyed the recipients. It seemed quite popular, too. <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 20:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * They were mainly used before anon-only blocks and XFF were implemented, so they blocked all editing often from entire ISPs or countries at a time. That's the main reason they were kept so short. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! Makes sense. It's amazing how much things have changed, in a relatively short time (2006 - 2008). Thanks. <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 21:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh. That's good to know. I should have thought of 31 hours blocks myself. Gopher65talk 00:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Unblock requests
HJ, you can't deny unblock requests when you are the blocking admin- no matter how obvious. They need to be left for a third party to review. Courcelles (talk) 21:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hi HJ, your help is required again in getting Shanghai to GA, there is a review on the talk page with what the article needs before it could be passed, I would do it but school's got me tied up so I can only do a bit of it. Thanks.  Fridae'§Doom &#124;  Spare your time?  22:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Happy HJ Mitchell's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:04, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, consider this from the both of us, you were going to get one no matter what. I was going to award one (per a request) at Midnight EST, but Rlevse beat me to it. :)  Congrats Dude, you earned this thing double. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 00:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, your awesomeness has officially been recognized :)-- White Shadows It's a wonderful life 00:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Congrats HJ. He's currently asleep so we can wait till he sees it in the morning.  Mr. R00t    Talk  00:15, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not asleep, just trying to make myself useful (without loosing my temper again) on Wikinews. But, wow. I'm honoured. I don't think I've been quite so flattered since 112 people got off their arses to support my RfA! Thank you Rlevse for the unexpected compliment and thank you guys for your compliments. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Haha. Well deserved award!  Diego Grez  what's up?  00:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

You mean this hasn't already happened???!!! Unbelievable... Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 00:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Long overdue :) <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000FF"> <B>Allmightyduck </B> </SPAN> What did I do wrong? 01:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed. (By the way, please see section above.) — MC10 <font color="#4169E1">(T•C•GB•L)  01:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've read it, but you don't want me writing your nomination statement at 2 in the morning- yuo mite fnid ti flul of ypots! ;) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   01:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just taking a wild guess here but based off of the apparent urgency that you have towards this e-mail, I'm guessing that you want HJ to nominate you for adminship or you are asking him if you think if you should go for an RFA. If I'm wrong then I apologize for not assuming good faith but that's what it appears to me.-- White Shadows It's a wonderful life 01:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry about that. I just thought HJ didn't read my post. (It's about 6 in the night here, so sorry about that.) — MC10 <font color="#4169E1">(T•C•GB•L)  01:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, I said "sorry about that" twice in my previous post. Just noticed that. — MC10 <font color="#4169E1">(T•C•GB•L)  01:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Now if you don't mind Mr. Awesome Wikipedian, there's a backlog at WP:AIV...Just kidding. Drop the mop for a day and bask in all the wiki-appreciation. Cheers! <span style="font-size:smaller;font-family:'arial bold',sans-serif;border:1px solid Black;"> N419 BH  01:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll echo Neutralhomer, White Shadows, 1234r00t, Diego Grez, Hi878, Allmightyduck, missed one! and N419BH in saying: you earned it, and I'm surprised it didn't already happen! And I have to echo Rlevse in saying: you're an awesome Wikipedian! Enjoy the day HJ. dffgd   talk · edits  01:56, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * you know what really sucks? I was blocked on my day and no one really came to say "good job!"-- White Shadows It's a wonderful life 02:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * @White Shadows: Wow, that must suck.
 * I'll just echo what everyone else has said already: Congrats! — MC10 <font color="#4169E1">(T•C•GB•L)  02:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know.....-- White Shadows It's a wonderful life 02:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I must say... congrats! And thanks for reviewing my Wikinews articles. BTW, I hope you can remain a reviewer at Wikinews, because I know all the time you have been a good one, only you made a mistake by accident. I'm not !voting there, because I'm still a novice.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Very well deserved!  WackyWace  converse 12:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Another motto, get it while it's hot :)
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I'm afraid it's rather, well, more rambling than the nice crisp one Hi878 delivered you, but I hope you like it anyway. so nia ♫♪ 10:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Could you please add clear after boxes like this on talk pages? It fixes indenting and looks with some kind of fancy markup that I don't understand. :) dffgd   talk · edits  13:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow! Good one Sonia! And HJ, don't forget to rate it. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Come now HJ, you need to rate it. :) Or I'll send the Motto Shop police after you (just as soon as I find out if/where they exist...). By the way, I have a new request at the top of the page.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Reliable?
Is this source considered reliable for reviews? -- ipodnano05  * leave@message 18:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * - I would think not.  Mr. R00t    Talk  18:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If it's subject to decent editorial controls, I would think so, but I wouldn't want to be overly reliant on it and if that's the only place you can find the information you;re trying to cite, it should raise an eyebrow. See what the folks at WP:RS/N think. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:53, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I commenced a conversation there. It's just going to be used for critical reception and maybe on composition. -- ipodnano05  * leave@message 19:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No one answered me there. -- ipodnano05  * leave@message 17:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Hokolok
Why did you block User:Hokolok? Yes his first two edits were vandalism but he hadent vandalized since. The edits to my pages im okay with cause he's like my best friend in real life. Trust me though my edit style is NO WHERE CLOSE to his. He has only been using Wikipedia to talk with me cause he lost his phone.  Red Flag on  the Right Side  04:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * From what I can see, he hasn't made a single useful contribution and has been harassing another editor. Anyway, Wikipedia isn't myspace. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well im the one he's been "harassing" and i don't take it as harassment.  Red Flag on  the Right Side  20:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Aircrash AfDs
Hi, thanks for your note. I notice you've nominated a few aircraft accident articles for AfD. At least two of them had redlinked AfD discussion links on the AfD notice this morning event though there was an AfD in progress, but this seems to have been fixed now. I don't know what went wrong there.

One thing I did want to say, is that it is often the case that after the immediate period of time after a crash, everything does go quiet. Aircrash investigations take time, and it can be two years or more before a report is published into an accident. Such quietness should not be taken to mean that there is a "lack of significant coverage beyond the immediate event". I've made my comments at various AfDs and am happy for the community to decide the fate of the articles in question. Mjroots (talk) 09:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I AfD'd a recent helicopter crash, but apparently I'm biased against Israeli helicopters crashing in Romania. I decided to have a look at the other articles on the template and sent a few that didn't look particularly significant, but I trust the community to separate the wheat from the chaff. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   14:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Admin
Hey, I was wondering if I could ask you to review a page for GA status? I am not entirely sure if I should, and therefore, just kindly tell me... The articles in question are listed on the GA nominations page under the film section. If you want, I'll link the pages directly after your response, but since I am not sure if I even should do this, I will take the precaution to not link it here. Chaos Master Chat 15:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's fine to ask. What are the articles? I can't promise anything, but I'll consider it. Btw, why the "admin" section header? You don;t have to be an admin to review GA nominations. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I saw you reviewing quite a few GA nominations, and thought it was because of your admin status. I don't know, just weird thinking I guess. The articles are: Twilight (2008 film) and The Twilight Saga: New Moon. I have edited them quite a lot, and because of that I don't think its fair that I review it myslef. And take your time, I'm not in any rush, but I appreciate anything that you could do. Chaos Master Chat 16:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, consider reviewing a few articles at WP:GAN yourself, as it is very backlogged (as always). Airplaneman   ✈  19:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Huh.
I hope I don't seem like I'm bothering you too much, but would you mind unprotecting those pages I had you protect earlier? They would be this, this, and this. Thanks in advance! Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 17:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Done, but why? HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   17:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Just because. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Diego Grez
I came here from User_talk:Diego_Grez upon seeing a notice that this user is under editing restriction and that you are mentoring him. The user is adding photos of himself (or a relative) to amateur radio and related articles, first beginning in December of this year and continuing against Talk Page consensus: the image he identifies as an "amateur radio operator" is unverifiable as such. He recently added this image again. You may want to counsel him regarding WP policy. - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What? Do you really think that he is me? Nope, it's my dad. If you don't want the image there, you should have left me a message and I wouldn't have opposed the removal. I don't have interest on the article, but no one noticed me of anything that was going on with the picture.  Diego Grez   what's up?  19:41, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Did I misunderstand: "If you wish to discuss Diego's editing, you may do so at User talk:HJ Mitchell and it would be greatly appreciated if you would discuss any issue there in the first instance." - LuckyLouie (talk) 20:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No, you did not, but this issue was raised in December. And no one notified me. That's what I said. In short, I added it again without knowing the background of the previous removal of the picture. But well, it's better late than never. Cheers,  Diego Grez  what's up?  20:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, if you think it should be in there, Diego, discuss it on the talk page. In the meantime, go and review my article on WN. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, I don't care. It bothers me that no one said anything of it and now they "take the guns" (lol). Gonna review your article.  Diego Grez  what's up?  20:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Diego, since images have been an issue for you in the past, perhaps you should discuss before adding pictures from now on– or at least add them below the centrefold? so  nia ♫♪ 20:21, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I reiterate, I don't add pictures if they are not needed. I just thought the picture was illustrative. I was not aware of the talk page discussion. That's the matter, not if I add deliberately incorrect and stupidly undescriptive pictures.  Diego Grez  what's up?  20:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the WN publish. :) The issue isn't that you're deliberately adding incorrect images, it's just that some of the images you add are perhaps not the most appropriate so, as Sonia says, it's probably a good idea to leave a note on the talk page of an article you're thinking of adding an image to, then yo can ad it if nobody objects. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:29, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay.  Diego Grez  what's up?  20:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm also here regarding Diego, but it's a trivial matter. On Articles for deletion/MannaRelief, he added a delete comment saying simply "per nom." While that's fine, I'd ask Diego to keep in mind that discussions on Wikipedia are decided by consensus, not voting, and that simply putting "per nom" on an Afd usually does little to help the discussion without a valid reason. See WP:PERNOM. Thanks and keep up the good work with Afds otherwise.  elektrik SHOOS  21:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi there, expanded my comment.  Diego Grez   what's up?  21:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I have a problem with this comment, not only the unnecessary trout message, but the claim that all articles "sponsored" by a WikiProject automatically makes them notable, even if this person seems to violate WP:POLITICIANS. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 22:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed I was wrong with that comment (not all politicians are notable) and the whack thing (just for fun, nothing bad intended), but I can find good sources for some controversies the subject has been involved.  Diego Grez  what's up?  22:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

ANI
ANI says that I have to notify you. You are mentioned on ANI. Don't feel bad. Apply in early 2011, even January. Don't be disruptive and fight it. MVOO (talk) 22:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify User:MVOO has brought you up at this thread requesting that you be de-sysoped.  Mauler90  talk 23:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Mail
Ding dong-ding dong, estas cosas del amor... You've got mail.  Diego Grez  what's up? 22:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Question on ITN Procedure
Hey HJ,

I know that aside from editing ITN and your work as an admin, you also have/had dealings with Media, Commons, Wiki-news and other trans-wiki projects so I figured you might be the person to ask...
 * My question is this: Most of the stories either posted, nominated or blurbed on WP:ITN are stories dealing with foreign countries or policies of foreign governments (Foreign in the sense of countries not the U.S. or the U.K.), and while we strive to check our facts by sourcing, sometimes even the international media does not give a clear picture of the situation. Given that, I was wondering if it would be possible/feasible to compile a list of editors from different language versions of WP that are bilingual in English so that we could ask them directly and clear up common misconceptions of stories before they get posted.
 * Something of a wild idea I'll admit, but you can see an example of this under the nomination of the Bullfighting Ban in Catalonia. MickMacNee posted the info that several municipalities in Spain had already banned the sport, (sounds true, but hard to check), but a user named Vilar posted that indeed it is not quite true as (other than the Canary Islands) there are Anti-Bullfighting Cities, but not formal bans. His user page says he is actually from Spain and therefore he is most probably correct in this matter. To wit: if we had access to editors from different countries who were bilingual in English, then we could instantly check the accuracy of any story first-hand; not as an article writing tool, merely as a fact-checking mechanism.

Would this be at all possible or even advisable? It could certainly help us find sources on less-then-covered stories and would open up a new route for cross-wiki interaction. Thoughts? Cwill151 (talk) 00:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting idea. I'm afraid I'm embarrassingly monolingual, though I did manage a Google-translated post on a talk page on the Swedish WP. Because of the sheer size of enwiki, there are a fair number of editors who speak other languages. If people are willing to go cross-wiki and ask people, I suppose it could work, though a quick look at local sources for most countries should confirm or deny whatever we needed to know. As to the Catalonian bull fighting ban specifically, I believe it's the first such ban in mainland Spain and that's what I wrote in the Wikinews article. It's what the BBC and various other sources are saying. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   01:23, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Please userfy or e-mail me my user page.

I am honest and can assure you that I won't immediately create a page. I probably will not. If it is done, it will be after careful though and major revision.

I am delighted that you haven't been in the attacking mode as some administrators do. Your offer of giving me back the information is appreciated.

Please be mindful in the future if you do one thing and then want to do a second action. These include blocking then denying or voting for an AFD then taking furthur action. By seeing your reaction, I see that you will be a far better admin than some of our worse apples.

I will be requesting that the ANI thread be closed because of your kind response. Please don't forget and either userfy my user page or e-mail it to me. MVOO (talk) 01:07, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. I can userfy the whole article, complete with history, so you can work out whether you can salvage anything or merge it into Cheney's biography (probably your best chance of keeping some of the content on WP) or I can just email you the text or both. Just so you know, if you repost it without talking to the admin who closed the discussion, it qualifies for speedy deletion under CSD G4. Let me know what you want me to do and I'll get onto it in a minute. It still would have been easier if you'd asked me nicely without going through ANI, but if everybody's satisfied in the end, we can get back to doing other things. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   01:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and marked it resolved. Tommy!  [ message ] 07:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Evil, evil, evil admin who gave me both of my userrights and helped me out with a disgruntled user on my talk!
Have a cookie! ANI incidents haven't helped matters. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000FF"> <B>Allmightyduck </B> </SPAN> What did I do wrong? 03:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC) <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

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HMS Investigator
I hope you're not asleep yet. I've cleaned up the references and will continue expanding the article some more. —<font face="Garamond" size="3">Arsonal (talk + contribs) — 04:34, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Mnhs cm01
Just a note, I have unblocked to allow for a less COI username. I've asked him to drop a note on talk pages when adding links to his organization's site. If you see something in error here, please reverse or drop me a note. Kuru  (talk)  15:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the FYI. Hopefully things will turn out well. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   15:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Si. Watchlisted just in case.  :)  Kuru   (talk)  15:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I am not sure if my last message went through. I am trying to submit an article for a non-profit organization and keep getting denied because the language isn't neutral enough - you did my last review. Could you give me some specifics? I am not sure what to change and don't want it to be declined again. It's for Water Education Foundation. Thank you! Rdouglas717 (talk) 16:34, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

protect request
hi HJ.. mind protecting User talk:Tommy2010/Editnotice? [edit=autoconfirmed] [move=sysop].. doesn't ever need to be moved really or edited by anons. Thanks man Tommy!  [ message ] 17:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   17:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Darth007
Could I get a little help at his talk page? He seems to say something, and just revert to his version on HTC Desire, rather then wait for consensus. --<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #0000FF"> <B>Allmightyduck </B> </SPAN> What did I do wrong? 18:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Lake Moultrie
Hi HJ, your revdel skills may be needed on this diff? :) - Happysailor  (Talk) 19:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Gone. I'll email Oversight about that. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   19:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Kasai River disaster
What have you done here? I presumed you were histmerging my full article with Johnsemlak's two line stub, although I've no idea why as they have no common history, and yet the article is now, after you've apparently restored it according to the log, still the the two line stub, even after purging my cache. MickMacNee (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * When you do a history merge, you have to leave the "move edit" in the trash, HJ forgot to do that. Rather than re-deleting it, though, a simple revert seemed to work in this simple case. Courcelles (talk) 19:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Courcelles. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:28, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh huh. But I still have no idea why a history merge was required? Anyone simply looking at the revision history now is going to be perplexed by me saying "new article" here. MickMacNee (talk) 21:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure they'll get over it, Mick. The merge was useful because we had two articles on the same subject and no conflicting revisions- Johnsemlak's last edit was before your first. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   21:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ???? "we had two articles on the same subject and no conflicting revisions- Johnsemlak's last edit was before your first" - that is precisely why a history merge is not needed. A history merge is for reconciling overlapping edits where they need attribution in a repaired state. That's not the case here, which was solveable with a simple redirect, preserving the original meaning of everybody's edit summaries. MickMacNee (talk) 22:07, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Huggle
Hi. Thank you for granting me rollback permissions. When I tried to run Huggle, it said "Huggle is not enabled for your account, check user configuration page." Can you help me please? Thanks, TEK (talk • e-mail) 00:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) I've never used Huggle, so I don't know the specifics, but I believe you need to download something an it runs on an executable file. One of my talk page stalkers might be more help. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Er, you should setup something like this on your huggle.css (mine is out of date, because I haven't used Huggle in ages here)  Diego Grez  what's up?  00:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've sent you some instructions on your talk page, TEK. The Raptor  Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 00:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

ITN for Kasai River disaster
--Courcelles (talk) 00:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ta! HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:47, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Email
Again. Airplaneman  ✈  16:57, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you have time, may you please look over User:CHRISTAKIS DEMOSTHENOUS/Sandbox? I know the refs need cleanup and the article could be improved, but I was wondering if you had any specific suggestions on how to improve it to meet the DYK standards. Thanks, Airplaneman   ✈  17:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, this talk page is busy! About your offer to nominate me for adminship… as of now, I see a good block of time in my schedule around the week of August 9. Would it be possible to have it ready around that time (for transclusion anywhere from the 7th to the 16th)? I'm not in any hurry. Airplaneman   ✈  00:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be more than happy to support you AP. Expect to see me as one of the first supporters based off of my knowledge of you on Wikipedia and my own interaction with you on this site ;)-- White Shadows It's a wonderful life 01:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure I can manage that. I might be on holiday somewhere around there, but I can work around that. :) HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   01:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for spamming your inbox… one more email. Airplaneman  ✈  19:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Right, this is starting to annoy me - not you, Airplaneman, it's all this "I am leaving you a message to tell you that I sent you an email" stuff. Surely someone's created a template for this by now? No? Really? OK, how about this:


 * Here's the code: . Tweaks welcome. I'd like to see a better image, but that was the best I could find in the "Nuvola" category at commons. "Ygm" is shamelessly copied from, which is maybe a good thing, maybe a bad thing (I removed all the conditional logic that Tb needs). Anyway - you're all welcome to it. Enjoy! <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 19:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Great solution! Thanks TFOWR, Airplaneman   ✈  02:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You may want to full or semi protect it sometime soon as usage spreads. I'm sure HJ will be seeing a lot of this on his talk page :) Airplaneman   ✈  02:06, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Of all the talkpages I have on my watchlist, this one seems to be the one with the most "You Got Mail" posts ;-) I've moved-protected the Ygm template (sysop only), and semi-protected it - I notice "an editor" has already edited it, and that's good, so I'm reluctant to fully-protect it - it should be editable by good-faith editors. Glad you find it useful! <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 02:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Airplaneman  ✈  05:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

RE: Template talk:Request photo
Sorry if I was not clear. I placed the editprotected template on the reqphoto page to request undoing an edit made by a user with admin privilege that was made without notification. Also as far as I can see a user that has not been working on the project before or after the change to the page. A well established template was edited without consensus. --Traveler100 (talk) 06:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Igloo
I finally got Firefox to work on my laptop, thing is Igloo isn't working >.< whenever I launch it the server connection always fails. Would you be able to help me or would I have to contact Ale jrb? It's always one predicament after another for me, this laptop's more trouble than it's worth (it's free actually but meh :P)  Fridae'§Doom &#124;  Spare your time?  07:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If you've got everything installed properly, I don't know. You'd have to contact Ale Jrb. NSD might be able to help. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   13:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Mine does the same thing. If your computer has issues connecting to freenode, it's probably a similar problem. (Get huggle instead!) Btw, HJ, I left a rant to match yours on 220.101's talk. so  nia ♫♪ 13:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Happened again now
after the declined page protection from IPs: --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 10:36, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the first in 3 days. Much as I'd like to help you out, barring serious BLP issues, my hands are tied. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   13:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Commas
Why are you adding commas where unnecessary? Juliancolton (talk) 18:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * They are necessary. For example, "did you know that on July 19, 2010, Rich Cho became..." doesn't make sense without a comma- "on July 19, 2010" is a sub-clause of the sentence (which is why there's a comma after 2010). It's a common mistake to omit the first comma (as can be seen on almost every set of DYK hooks) but it is a mistake. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   20:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a mistake; it's a matter of preference. And even so, comma usage should be dictated by practicality rather than grammatical perfection. What is the purpose of a pause after "that"? I think it unnecessarily disrupts the sentence flow personally. Juliancolton (talk) 21:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The actual sentence is "Did you know that Rich Cho became...." As HJ said, "on July 19, 2010" is a sub-clause of the sentence. The sentence can stand alone without that addition. Take it out and it will read "Did you know that Rich Cho became...." which, as you can see, is capable of standing by itself. The date is just extra information for reference, and should, indeed, be separated from the sentence by a comma/commas. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 21:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

OI!
Mr. Mitchell, it appears that this is the only way to contact you. No doubt i'll get in all sorts of bother for not using this talk page or whatever it's called for it's intended use. But as long as you get the message i don't really care. Get on facebook so we can discuss next year living conditions and the such, I trust you're still returning to University? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pippin0490 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Lance Berkman page
Hey there. This edit should be OK for this evening as this is making big news over the web if you agree? I gave a proper reference showing the trade talk and sources. Thanks. JungleCat   Shiny! / Oohhh!  00:39, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. I just handled the RfPP request. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No probs. Should be OK. Later JungleCat    Shiny! / Oohhh!  00:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Redirect
I was wondering how to move a redirect back to what was previously had. An admin (and me) thought it appropriate in the older context but someone moved it without citing his reasons for or discussing. Talk:Next Thai general election. The page should be 2010 Thai general elections instead of Next Thai general election —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lihaas (talk • contribs)
 * Done, you can move pages right back over a redirect. so  nia ♫♪ 13:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks ;)Lihaas (talk) 10:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

New message
Hello User:HJ Mitchell, a while ago you told me that you were interested in helping copyedit Kareena Kapoor's article. I was wondering whether you still wanted to do it or not. --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 04:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewer permission
HJ Mitchell, thank you for the reviewer permission. --Dan Dassow (talk) 22:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You;re welcome. :) Whisky drinker  &#124;  HJ's sock   22:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

IOS jailbreaking
Hi, I've asked for full protection on IOS jailbreaking. There seems to be a lot of edit warring, vandalism, and edits with no sources. Discussion should continue on the Talk page. I have to admit I know nothing about this topic, just discovered it while Recent changes patrolling. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 22:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I happened to see an earlier RfPP request and it's flashed up a few times on Igloo. I'll probably let another admin handle the new protection request. Whisky drinker  &#124;  HJ's sock   22:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Its on my watch, so I'll take a look tomorrow at it. (Full Protection seems like a good idea to me too). -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 22:52, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

RE: Reviewer Permission
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Thanks for the reviewer privilege, and approving it so quickly! Message from XENU complaints? leave me a message! 02:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You're more than welcome. :) Let me know if you need anything in future. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   02:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC)