User talk:HMSLavender/Archive 12

Tech News: 2021-03
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Growth team plans to add features to get more visitors to edit to more Wikipedias. You can help translating the interface.
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for a short time on at 07:00 (UTC).
 * MassMessage posts could be automatically timestamped in the future. This is because MassMessage senders can now send pages using MassMessage. Pages are more difficult to sign. If there are times when a MassMessage post should not be timestamped you can let the developers know.

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Tech News: 2021-04
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for a short time on at 07:00 (UTC). You will not be able to read or edit Wikitech for a short time on at 09:00 (UTC).

Changes later this week
 * Bracket matching will be added to the CodeMirror syntax highlighter on the first wikis. The first wikis are German and Catalan Wikipedia and maybe other Wikimedia wikis. This will happen on 27 January.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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Tech News: 2021-05
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * IPv6 addresses were written in lowercase letters in diffs. This caused dead links since Special:Contributions only accepted uppercase letters for the IPs. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You can soon use Wikidata to link to pages on the multilingual Wikisource.
 * Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. This can be used to avoid a line break. You will now be able to add new ones via the special character tool in the 2010, 2017, and visual editors. The character will be shown in the visual editor as a space with a grey background.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikis use abuse filters to stop bad edits being made. Filter maintainers can now use syntax like  as well as the   syntax for IP ranges.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Minerva is the skin Wikimedia wikis use for mobile traffic. When a page is protected and you can't edit it you can normally read the source wikicode. This doesn't work on Minerva on mobile devices. This is being fixed. Some text might overlap. This is because your community needs to update MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext to work on mobile. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Cloud VPS and Toolforge will change the IP address they use to contact the wikis. The new IP address will be . This will happen on February 8. You can read more.

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20
 News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 20th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ajbura's anrfc-lister assists with listing discussions at WP:ANRFC to request that they receive a formal close
 * Bradv's endlesscontribs provides for endless scrolling of contributions pages
 * Evad37's livenotifications displays notification alerts and messages in a little popup box, (almost) live as they happen
 * Terasail's Edit Request Tool allows users to reply to, close or remove protected edit requests
 * ToBeFree's clear-watchlist allows emptying your watchlist even if the watchlist is too full to be edited or cleared by conventional methods
 * Dentonius's GlobalRecentChanges allows you to monitor recent changes across various wikis.
 * Yahya's SNA (Start New Article) allows you to start a new article or draft from the navigation bar.
 * Nardog:
 * CatChangeLinker bluelinks the "(diff | hist)" part of category additions/removals on your watchlist.
 * CatChangesViewer lists recent category additions/removals on a category page.
 * Consecudiff adds links to diffs of consecutive edits by the same user on watchlist, history, etc.
 * DiffFontSwitcher allows you to toggle between fonts for diff by clicking a line number.
 * MoveHistory lists the past moves a page has gone through.
 * Novem Linguae:
 * UserHighlighterSimple is a fork of Chlod's UserHighlighter with a simplified color scheme.
 * VisualEditorEverywhere displays the Visual Editor edit tab and section links on pages that don't normally have them.


 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg User:Evad37/TimestampDiffs – fixed compatibility issues with various scripts/gadgets, including Comments in Local Time. For discussion archives, now looks for revisions on the base page.
 * User:Enterprisey/undo-last-edit.js - no longer tries to load on special pages.
 * User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap - version 1.4 fixes reading destination from form field if destination is not in article namespace, and fixes self redirects.
 * XFDcloser - version 4 brings a new user interface for dialogs, some preferences for customising XFDcloser, major behind-the-scenes coding changes, and resolves various issues raised on the talkpage. Also, since version 3.16.6 non-admin soft delete closure have been allowed at TfD.



Open tasks
 * As a reminder, the legacy javascript globals (like accessing  without first assigning it a value or using   instead) are deprecated. If your user scripts make use of the globals, please update them to use   instead. Some global interface editors or local interface administrators may edit your user script to make these changes if you don't. See T72470 for more.

Miscellaneous
 * For people interested in creating user scripts or gadgets using TypeScript, a types-mediawiki package (GitHub, NPM) is now available that provides type definitions for the MediaWiki JS interface and the API.
 * A GitHub organization has been created for hosting codebases of gadgets. Users who maintain gadgets using GitHub may choose to move their repos to this organization, to ensure continued maintenance by others even if the original maintainer becomes inactive.

Pending requests
 * A script to ease reviewing Good Article nominations
 * A script to help manage Z number templates
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, including nominating a featured script, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy new year! --DannyS712 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. You didn't respond to my queries as to why you changed my edit. Pattycursed (talk) 20:54, 3 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello. As per our neutrality policy, we do not directly refer to persons as racists, regardless of your opinions on the subject. We only report on what others have said about them. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  02:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Beagleforceone. I work closely with Navi (impersonator), and I appreciate your recent action on his page to revert the information. This page is continually being altered with incorrect, disruptive information. Please note that the edits and information that I provide are accurate and authorised by the person named on the page. Please ensure they are always reverted to my edit if they are altered by anyone else. Thank you. (If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page Beagleforceone (talk) 11:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-06
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android now has watchlists and talk pages in the app.

Changes later this week
 * You can see edits to chosen pages on Special:Watchlist. You can add pages to your watchlist on every wiki you like. The GlobalWatchlist extension will come to Meta on 11 February. There you can see entries on watched pages on different wikis on the same page. The new watchlist will be found on Special:GlobalWatchlist on Meta. You can choose which wikis to watch and other preferences on Special:GlobalWatchlistSettings on Meta. You can watch up to five wikis.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * When admins protect pages the form will use the OOUI look. Special:Import will also get the new look. This will make them easier to use on mobile phones.
 * Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Last week Tech News reported that the IP address Cloud VPS and Toolforge use to contact the wikis will change on 8 February. This is delayed. It will happen later instead.

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Tech News: 2021-07
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * There were problems with recent versions of MediaWiki. Because the updates caused problems the developers rolled back to an earlier version. Some updates and new functions will come later than planned.
 * Some services will not work for a short period of time from 07:00 UTC on 17 February. There might be problems with new short links, new translations, new notifications, adding new items to your reading lists or recording email bounces. This is because of database maintenance.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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Tech News: 2021-08
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The visual editor will now use MediaSearch to find images. You can search for images on Commons in the visual editor when you are looking for illustrations. This is to help editors find better images.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The syntax highlighter now works with more languages: Futhark, Graphviz/DOT, CDDL and AMDGPU.

Problems
 * Editing a timeline might have removed all text from it. This was because of a bug and has been fixed. You might need to edit the timeline again for it to show properly.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg There is a user group for developers and users interested in working on Wikimedia wikis with the Rust programming language. You can join or tell others who want to make your wiki better in the future.

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00:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-09
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Wikis using the Growth team tools can now show the name of a newcomer's mentor anywhere through a magic word. This can be used for welcome messages or userboxes.
 * A new version of the VideoCutTool is now available. It enables cropping, trimming, audio disabling, and rotating video content. It is being created as part of the developer outreach programs.

Problems
 * There was a problem with the job queue. This meant some functions did not save changes and mass messages were delayed. This did not affect wiki edits.
 * Some editors may not be logged in to their accounts automatically in the latest versions of Firefox and Safari.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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19:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I see wat ur doing
😡 Imthegod22 (talk) 04:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Unappreciative Imthegod22 (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Please note that names cannot be added to lists if they do not have a Wikipedia article. If you would like to create an article on Scott, you may create a draft - this should give you enough time to work on it. Please look at our guide to creating your first article. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  04:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Sunday Bloody Sunday (1939)
Hello, it appears you made a mistake. It appears you are the one who is not being neutral. The genocide against ethnic germans is true and I have close relatives who experienced it. I simply changed the biased wording that was previously used in the article. I am not justifying the German invasion in Germany I am making sure people get the correct information without a far-left bias. I am not trying to get into an edit war, I just want the crimes against ethnic Germans to be known. There is a documentary about this if you want to learn more/verify - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23pNOPJt93s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Memethepenguin (talk • contribs) 17:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi HMSLavender, I'm just popping over to let you know that this user has made a similar comment on my talk page. I've encouraged them to start a thread on the article's talk page instead so that the community can weigh in. Generalrelative (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-10
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Section translation now works on Bengali Wikipedia. It helps mobile editors translate sections of articles. It will come to more wikis later. The first focus is active wikis with a smaller number of articles. You can test it and leave feedback.
 * Flagged revisions now give admins the review right.
 * When someone links to a Wikipedia article on Twitter this will now show a preview of the article.

Problems
 * Many graphs have JavaScript errors. Graph editors can check their graphs in their browser's developer console after editing.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The New Discussion tool will soon be a new discussion tools beta feature for on most Wikipedias. The goal is to make it easier to start new discussions.

Future changes
 * There will be a number of changes to make it easier to work with templates. Some will come to the first wikis in March. Other changes will come to the first wikis in June. This is both for those who use templates and those who create or maintain them. You can read more.
 * Reference Previews will become a default feature on some wikis on 17 March. They will share a setting with Page Previews. If you prefer the Reference Tooltips or Navigation-Popups gadget you can keep using them. If so Reference Previews won't be shown.
 * New JavaScript-based functions will not work in Internet Explorer 11. This is because Internet Explorer is an old browser that doesn't work with how JavaScript is written today. Everything that works in Internet Explorer 11 today will continue working in Internet Explorer for now. You can read more.

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The passing of Dr. Jude Dougherty
I made the edit after I received an email from Thomas Dougherty, Dr. doughtery’s eldest son and my friend.

He died at his home in Potomac, Maryland.

Sorry, can provide more. I sure Catholic University and/or one of the local papers will have it in a day or two — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drpolarbear20 (talk • contribs) 11:37, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Waiting a couple of days for an obituary on the article or something from CUA would be the best course of action, as a more reliable source is needed; personal knowledge from an email, even from Dr. Jude's son, is not enough. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  14:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-11
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Wikis that are part of the desktop improvements project can now use a new search function. The desktop improvements and the new search will come to more wikis later. You can also test it early.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Editors who put up banners or change site-wide JavaScript code should use the client error graph to see that their changes has not caused problems. You can read more.

Problems
 * Due to database issues the Wikimedia Beta Cluster was read-only for over a day.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * You can add a newline or carriage return character to a custom signature if you use a template. There is a proposal to not allow them in the future. This is because they can cause formatting problems.
 * You will be able to read but not edit 12 wikis for a short period of time on at 06:00 (UTC). This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can use Quarry for SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas. Cross-database  will no longer work from 23 March. There will be a new field to specify the database to connect to. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. PAWS and other ways to do SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas will be affected later.

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Here’s a copy of Mariah Carey’s twins birth certificate
https://www.fanpop.com/clubs/mariah-careys-lambs/images/22216353/title/mariahs-twins-birth-certificates-photo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B1D7:96F1:84BE:3B4C:AC99:1AEF (talk) 05:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

The Tomorrow War Amazon Deal Hasn't Been Confirmed Yet
I think I might've made a mistake, because I haven't seen news or IMDb pages about The Tomorrow War going to Amazon. I know Paramount might be putting their films on Paramount+ 45 days after their theatrical releases though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D980:4400:0:0:0:458 (talk) 03:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-12
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. They don't have a touch screen so readers navigate with the phone keys. There is now a simulator so you can see what it looks like.
 * The reply tool and new discussion tool are now available as the "" beta feature in almost all wikis except German Wikipedia.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit twelve wikis for a short period of time on at 06:00 (UTC). This can also affect password changes, logging in to new wikis, global renames and changing or confirming emails. This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Syntax highlighting colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the first wikis.

Future changes
 * Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from  to  .   will soon no longer work.

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re:March 2021
Hi, Danny Ward (English footballer) already has a category:Footballers from Bradford, which is under Category:Footballers from Yorkshire. It is not necessary to have 2 same categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.167.205.127 (talk) 05:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the follow up. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  14:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-13
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Some very old web browsers don’t work well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers.
 * Octicons-tools.svg IRC recent changes feeds have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to  and not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern EventStreams.

Problems
 * When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem.
 * Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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17:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-14
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg The citoid API will use for example  instead of   for dates with a month but no days. This is because   could be confused with   instead of  . This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the Extended Date/Time Format.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg PAWS can now connect to the new Wiki Replicas. Cross-database  will no longer work from 28 April. There is a new way to connect to the databases. Until 28 April both ways to connect to the databases will work. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech.

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19:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Reverted edit
Just FYI, I reverted the page User talk:MAC Seal and Rubber Components to a version prior to the users' spam edits. I didn't see your edit about their username, but they are listed at WP:UAA anyway. They'll be blocked soon. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 05:41, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. They probably need a spamublock at this point as they've recreated their promo user page. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  05:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * They certainly got what they deserved, although they then spammed their talk page after the block. I've asked to revoke their talk page access as well. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 06:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  16:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-16
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Email to the Wikimedia wikis are handled by groups of Wikimedia editors. These volunteer response teams now use Znuny instead of OTRS. The functions and interface remain the same. The volunteer administrators will give more details about the next steps soon.
 * If you use syntax highlighting, you can see line numbers in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors when editing templates. This is to make it easier to see line breaks or talk about specific lines. Line numbers will soon come to all namespaces.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Because of a technical change there could be problems with gadgets and scripts that have an edit summary area that looks similar to this one. If they look strange they should use  to go back to how they looked before.
 * The latest version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis last week. There was no Tech News issue last week.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * The user group  will be renamed  . This is for technical reasons. This is the technical name. It doesn't affect what you call the editors with this user right on your wiki. This is planned to happen in two weeks. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.

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16:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-17
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Templates have parameters that can have specific values. It is possible to suggest values for editors with TemplateData. You can soon see them as a drop-down list in the visual editor. This is to help template users find the right values faster.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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21:23, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Who the hell are you?
Who the hell do you think you are? I have been living in Slab City for 6 years now and if anyone knows this place better than what's on there already, it's me. If I want to write something to help people who come out here make accurate decisions and protect themselves, you should damn well leave it alone. No, I am sure as hell not telling anyone who I am either, there's a reason I live in the middle of the Sonora. If you don't like my contributions feel free to perpetuate ignorance and spread lies.


 * Yeah, except that Wikipedia is not the place to advise on whether or not anyone should live there - see WP:NPOV and WP:NOT. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  07:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

This place is dangerous. Good luck understanding that.


 * You'd be better off going somewhere else to tell people that - that place isn't Wikipedia. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  07:14, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Those articles were literally written by people who come out here as tourists and look at us like we are animals in a zoo. That's why the articles are official sources. They are not from around here. This ain't no happy happy burning man "free place in America" party zone where everything works out well for everyone. People deserve to see the truth, and all I did was correct a misleading remark about the amount of meth out here, and add factual information about the people who die from the heat. I would like them restored. Success does not lead to learning, and it has taken enough suffering that these words are valid. You must truly have very little control over the rest of your reality to be this way to others here. The truth is not to be found on that page, and overall what is there will only cause issues for people who think they can read your site for accurate information that will help them. It is not inaccurate at all to say that "Many people die out here every summer." but I wanted to be more specific because among permanent residents it's always at least 10 who we know of. Count deaths from drug overdoses, "disappearances", snakes, non-heat related issues, and it's far far more. And yes that's out of usually LESS than 150 who stay the summer. I am sorry I can't verify the information. They won't even give me a California Driver's License because I have no official address. Bad things happen even more frequently to people who do not have specific plans here. Also not a single one of us would ever be called or call each other a "Slabbie", that is simply wrong. We are "Slabbers" and the city people are "Babylonians" or "Normies", and if you can't even get that one right you deserve the rest of it too. The storm approaches, and we will all need to be as informed and adaptable as possible. Please put it back. I gave you the chance. People who stick around long enough here to see the truth don't usually talk about it because it is dangerous, or they WANT people to come here for sinister reasons because they know the pattern. This is literally the one time I have ever tried to edit Wikipedia, and if this kind of information isn't even on here, I don't think I will be using it much in the future at all. Websites like this claim to be the end-all when it comes to useful information by their very nature, but most of the time I see them just making a lot of young people overconfident.

Edit to Mike Labingo Death date.
Hello, you left a message for me regarding an edit I made to Mike Labinjo. I have corrected the death date to Sept 21 2018. There are multiple sources that state he "was found September 21 2018". https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/mike-labinjo-family-homicide-police-investigation-1.5919068 is just one. Thank you


 * Hello. When you made this edit on 27 March, you did not cite a source - hence why it was reverted. For future reference, edits like this should always come with a citation - for help on referencing, see WP:REFBEGIN. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  06:08, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-18
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Recent changes
 * Twinkle is a gadget on English Wikipedia. It can help with maintenance and patrolling. It can now be used on other wikis. You can get Twinkle on your wiki using the twinkle-starter GitHub repository.

Problems
 * The content translation tool did not work for many articles for a little while. This was because of a bug.
 * Some things will not work for about a minute on 5 May. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This will affect the content translation tool and notifications among other things. This is because of an upgrade to avoid crashes.

Changes later this week
 * Reference Previews will become a default feature on a number of wikis on 5 May. This is later than planned because of some changes. You can use it without using Page Previews if you want to. The earlier plan was to have the preference to use both or none.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The CSS classes,   and   do not work for mobile readers if they have not been specifically defined on your wiki. From June they will not work for desktop readers. This can affect gadgets and templates. The classes can be defined in MediaWiki:Common.css or template styles instead.

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15:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Murray Hedgcock
I've re-edited Murray's page with a citation to The Times (London) with a column by Patrick Kidd citing Murray Hedgcock's date of death. Thanks for being scrupulous about sources! I'm neil.midkiff@gmail.com if you want to email privately.


 * Hi there, thank you for adding those sources - for future reference, you should always cite a source confirming an individual's date of death as soon as it is added to the article. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  04:47, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-19
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Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * You can see what participants plan to work on at the online Wikimedia hackathon 22–23 May.

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15:08, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-20
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Recent changes
 * There is a new toolbar in the Reply tool. It works in the wikitext source mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
 * Wikimedia mailing lists are being moved to Mailman 3. This is a newer version. For the character encoding to work it will change from  to.
 * Octicons-tools.svg An earlier issue of Tech News said that the citoid API would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg  will be renamed  . The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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13:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Loren P. Woods COI editing
Hello, recent changes patrollers. Within the last 24 hours on the Loren P. Woods article (presumably during overlapping recent changes patrols), an IP editor claiming to be a family member of the article subject has violated multiple policies and guidelines, including verifiability, no original research, and conflict of interest guidelines (see the current state of the article here). While I have considered reverting/restoring the article to something like this to ensure these standards are upheld, instead I wrote a talk page message without a restore (in fear of inadvertently starting further conflicts). Since these and other talk page messages have been ignored, what input do you and have for what should be done next? Randompointofview (talk) 18:37, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd say revert and use edit summary to at the very least tell them to check their talk page, as they may've read the edit summaries (my RedWarn talk in main revert suggested to be bold and fix the problem, which they did attempt to do). just my personal choice of the matter, however I don't see myself as anywhere near an expert on counter vandalism yet. • | melecie |   t  00:03, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I wonder if this is enough to merit going to WP:COIN? lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  03:09, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I considered doing that, but the instructions at WP:COIN says it is mainly for use after "ordinary talk page discussion has been attempted and failed to resolve the issue" (discussion so far: several generic templates, one original message, counterarguments from IP editor in summaries). So that might not be a viable dispute resolution method right now, but it may come to that point in the near future. Randompointofview (talk) 04:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: Since there has been no response whatsoever to the talk page message(s), I will probably try restoring the page now/soon with a link in the edit summary and see what happens. Randompointofview (talk) 03:14, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * (now done) Randompointofview (talk) 03:24, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Forgive me for not understanding the rules of your community, but I am one of Loren P. Woods’ surviving Children.His grandchildren asked me to correct the information. I have attempted to cite sources, but his obituary is behind a paywall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.63.112.99 (talk) 10:55, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Pinging . Do you have a link to the source that you're trying to cite? In some cases, you can ask for assistance with a source restricted with a paywall at the Resource Exchange WikiProject.  lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  14:21, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-21
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Recent changes
 * The Wikimedia movement has been using IRC on a network called Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have decided to move to the new Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia discussions about this.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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17:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!
<div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"> Happy First Edit Day! Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:59, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-22
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Problems
 * There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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17:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#606060; background-color:#f8f8f8; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> News and updates associated with user scripts from the past four months (February through May 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 21st issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here


 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg New scripts


 * Alexander Davronov's HistoryHelper helps to copy diff links from the history display of a page
 * Aseleste's Purger makes it easier to purge or null edit a page
 * Awesome Aasim:
 * CatMan adds a category manager to simplify interactions for adding and removing the categories of a page
 * redirectcreator allows for easy creation of multiple redirects
 * Bop34's EasyDesc adds a link to the top navigation bar which allows you to add a short description without opening the edit menu
 * BrandonXLF's NullEdit adds a portlet link to perform a null edit on a page
 * Chlod:
 * FoldArchives collapses archived talk page threads in order to reduce screen space
 * GoToTitle converts the page title into an input field for navigating to other pages
 * UserHighlighter adds highlighting to links to the userpages, talk pages, and contributions of administrators and other user groups as well as tooltips to indicate which groups a user is in
 * GhostInTheMachine:
 * NoEditSummary adds a warning if an edit will be saved without an edit summary
 * SortWhatLinksHere sorts the links shows on Special:WhatLinksHere
 * WatchlistTidy moves the "new updates found" timestamp block from the bottom of the filter block to the top of the filter area on the watchlist
 * GorillaWarfare's curlies simplifies converting curly quotes to straight quotes while in the source editing mode
 * Nardog:
 * AutoSectionLink corrects the  every time you hit "Show changes"
 * AutoTestcases autofills "Preview page with this template/module" with the most relevant /testcases page that exists
 * SortCentralAuthByEditCount sorts the list of local accounts on CentralAuth by edit count
 * Novem Linguae:
 * CiteHighlighter highlights 1800 sources green, yellow, or red depending on reliability.
 * NPPLinks adds WP:BEFORE Google search links, copyvio check, duplicate article check, and other links to the left menu.
 * Ritenerek's goce_nav adds a link to WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors to the navigation menu
 * Suffusion of Yellow:
 * filterDiff: Adds a "Show changes" button to the filter editor.
 * filterNotes: Parses filter notes as wikitext (so links are clickable), and signs and dates new comments for you.
 * filterTest: Adds a "Test changes" button. Opens Special:AbuseFilter/test with what's currently in the edit form, not with what's saved in the database, so you don't have to copy-paste your changes.
 * Terasail's COI Request Tool allows users to reply to, close or remove conflict of interest edit requests


 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Updated scripts


 * Twinkle has a number of improvements, including that most watchlist defaults now make use of the new temporary watchlist feature. Other changes include rollbacks treating consecutive IPv6 editors in the same /64 range as the same user, adding a preview for shared IP tagging, a preference for watching users after CSD notification, and for sysops, the ability to block the /64 and link to a WP:RfPP request, and new copyright blocks default to indefinite.
 * Shortdesc helper now v3.4.17, changes include minor fixes and preventing edits that don't change the description.
 * BrandonXLF's CitationStyleMarker now recognizes WP:CSLSA and WP:CSVAN styles, in addition to WP:CS1 and WP:CS2
 * Joeytje50's JWB now version 4.1.0, includes the ability to generate page lists from the search tool, major updates to the handling of regular expressions, the storing of user settings, the addition of upload protection, and an option to skip pages that belong to a specific category, among other changes. See User:Joeytje50/JWB/Changelog for a full list of recent changes.
 * User:SD0001/deleted-metadata-link.js – updated to include a link to snippet of deleted content, instead of just metadata.


 * Info Simple bw.svg Miscellaneous


 * User scripts/List has been revamped to make it easier to find scripts suited for your needs. If you know of a cool script that is missing on the list, or a script on the list that is no longer working, please edit the list or let us know on the talk page.


 * 1009Clock.jpg Pending requests


 * A request for a script to help admins posting "recent death" items to Template:In the news
 * A request for a script to warn users about syntax and template errors
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests



My apologies for this long-overdue issue, and if I missed any scripts. Hopefully going forward we can go back to monthly releases - any help would be appreciated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 13:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2021-23
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Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia movement uses Phabricator for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future.
 * Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct diacritics because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for  doesn't find   on German Wikipedia. The character   isn't used in German so many would write   instead. This will work better in the future in some languages.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The CSRF token parameters in the action API were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters.

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20:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Lavender
Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eshay420 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-24
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Recent changes
 * Logged-in users on the mobile web can choose to use the advanced mobile mode. They now see categories in a similar way as users on desktop do. This means that some gadgets that have just been for desktop users could work for users of the mobile site too. If your wiki has such gadgets you could decide to turn them on for the mobile site too. Some gadgets probably need to be fixed to look good on mobile.
 * Language links on Wikidata now works for multilingual Wikisource.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * In the future we can't show the IP of unregistered editors to everyone. This is because privacy regulations and norms have changed. There is now a rough draft of how showing the IP to those who need to see it could work.
 * German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC.
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 28 June. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.

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20:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

good morning
your article name Wero ref wikipédia 011299550, is in way to be translat in french. thank you --Jgm18 (talk) 12:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Is this directed at someone else? I'm afraid I don't deal with translations at all. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  15:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thitipan Puangchan
What change have I made in bio...??


 * Hi there. I've reverted a change you made to the player's height as it wasn't supported by an updated roster list or player profile, wherein any changes to a football players' heights may be found. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  04:36, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Local Churches
Hi they have unorthodox understanding on Trinity and it has been confirmed by them (see ministrybooks) also I was going to add references to their understanding, since understanding of trinity is what differe from mainline Christianity... See Oneness Pentecostalism, JW etc. So please undo the revert you made - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:33b2:ba9c:9a7a:1c8a:dd0b:42bd (talk • contribs) 05:00, 26 June 2021 (UTC (UTC)
 * I'm afraid this not how Wikipedia works; we do not endorse one particular perspective on the Trinity, and we try to present all known points of view in a balanced manner - please see WP:NPOV. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  05:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-25
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  group name is now  . This could affect abuse filters.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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15:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-26
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Recent changes
 * Wikis with the Growth features now can configure Growth features directly on their wiki. This uses the new special page.
 * Wikisources have a new OCR tool. If you don't want to see the "extract text" button on Wikisource you can add  to your common.css page.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a few minutes on 29 June. This is planned at 14:00 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * ,  and   can be set in preferences. They are expensive to maintain and few editors use them. The developers are planning to remove them. Removing them will make pages load faster. You can read more and give feedback.
 * A toolbar will be added to the Reply tool's wikitext source mode. This will make it easier to link to pages and to ping other users.

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16:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-27
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News
 * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 19 July.

Recent changes
 * AutoWikiBrowser is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses JSON.  has moved to   and  .   has moved to  . The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes.

Problems
 * InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from  to.

Changes later this week
 * The tool to find, add and remove templates will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year.
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Some Wikimedia wikis use Flagged Revisions or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful.

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17:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Re: Toadworks page edit.
Hi, I am Doug H., co-founder of ToadWorks pedals (as mentioned in the article). I am the one who deleted the "Controversy" section because in fact there was NO "controversy." That was inserted over a decade ago by some anonymous participant on a guitar board from way back. A cursory examination reveals this to be hearsay at best and slander at worst. Since it is not factually related, I want it removed. I can't help but notice no other musical equipment Wiki page is burdened with a "Controversy" section. Thanks for your attention.

Tech News: 2021-29
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The tool to find, add and remove templates was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year.
 * Special:UnconnectedPages lists pages that are not connected to Wikidata. This helps you find pages that can be connected to Wikidata items. Some pages should not be connected to Wikidata. You can use the magic word  on pages that should not be listed on the special page.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will soon change. This can affect bots, gadgets, user scripts and extensions. You can read more. You can test it on Testwiki or Testwiki 2.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more.

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15:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-30
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Recent changes
 * A new version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis the week before last week. This was not in Tech News because there was no newsletter that week.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * If you use the Monobook skin you can choose to switch off responsive design on mobile. This will now work for more skins. If  is unticked you need to also untick the new preference  . Otherwise it will stop working. Interface admins can automate this process on your wiki. You can read more.

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21:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-31
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg If your wiki uses markup like <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> or <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> without the required <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> attribute, then these will no longer work in 2 weeks. There is a short-term fix that can be added to your local wiki's Common.css page, which is explained at T287701. From now on, all usages should include the full attributes, for example: <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> or <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . This also applies to some other HTML tags, such as  or  . You can find existing examples on your wiki that need to be updated, using the instructions at T287701.
 * Reminder: Wikimedia has migrated to the Libera Chat IRC network, from the old Freenode network. Local documentation should be updated.

Problems
 * Last week, all wikis had slow access or no access for 30 minutes. There was a problem with generating dynamic lists of articles on the Russian Wikinews, due to the bulk import of 200,000+ new articles over 3 days, which led to database problems. The problematic feature has been disabled on that wiki and developers are discussing if it can be fixed properly.

Changes later this week
 * When adding links to a page using VisualEditor or the 2017 wikitext editor, disambiguation pages will now only appear at the bottom of search results. This is because users do not often want to link to disambiguation pages.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The team of the Wikipedia app for Android is working on communication in the app. The developers are working on how to talk to other editors and get notifications. You can read more. They are looking for users who want to test the plans. Any editor who has an Android phone and is willing to download the app can do this.
 * The Beta Feature for will be updated in the coming weeks.  You will be able to subscribe to individual sections on a talk page at more wikis.  You can test this now by adding   to the end of the talk page's URL (example).

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20:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-32
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * You can read but not edit 17 wikis for a few minutes on 10 August. This is planned at 05:00 UTC. This is because of work on the database.

Changes later this week
 * The Wikimania Hackathon will take place remotely on 13 August, starting at 5:00 UTC, for 24 hours. You can participate in many ways. You can still propose projects and sessions.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The old CSS <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> will not be supported after 12 August. Instead, templates and pages should use <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . Please help to replace any existing uses on your wiki. There are global-search links available at T287962.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia Library is a place for Wikipedia editors to get access to sources. There is an extension which has a new function to tell users when they can take part in it. It will use notifications. It will start pinging the first users in September. It will ping more users later.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Vue.js will be the JavaScript framework for MediaWiki in the future.

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16:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

John Huston publicity still.
I corrected the date attributed to the publicity still of John Huston which is the title photo used in his Wikipedia article. That publicity still is from the motion picture Chinatown, which was filmed in the autumn of 1973 according to Internet Movie Database. You changed it back to the erroneous date of 1972 and invited me to cite a source for my change.


 * Hi there. It's likely that the date of 1972 was taken from the image's (now missing) listing on Ebay. Given the image was actually taken a year later, I've reverted back to the 1973 date on the article - I suppose changes could be made to the date on the file page. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  05:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-33
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet.

Problems
 * There was a problem on wikis which use the Translate extension. Translations were not updated or were replaced with the English text. The problems have been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * A revision tag will soon be added to edits that add links to disambiguation pages. This is because these links are usually added by accident. The tag will allow editors to easily find the broken links and fix them. If your wiki does not like this feature, it can be hidden.
 * Would you like to help improve the information about tools? Would you like to attend or help organize a small virtual meetup for your community to discuss the list of tools? Please get in touch on the Toolhub Quality Signal Sessions talk page. We are also looking for feedback from tool maintainers on some specific questions.
 * In the past, edits to any page in your user talk space ignored your mute list, e.g. sub-pages. Starting this week, this is only true for edits to your talk page.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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19:25, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-34
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Score extension (<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> notation) has been re-enabled on public wikis and upgraded to a newer version. Some musical score functionality may no longer work because the extension is only enabled in "safe mode". The security issue has been fixed and an advisory published.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit some wikis for a few minutes on . This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. During this time, operations on the CentralAuth will also not be possible.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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21:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Read-only reminder
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Also during this time, operations on the CentralAuth will not be possible (GlobalRenames, changing/confirming e-mail addresses, logging into new wikis, password changes).

For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.

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20:33, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Dude look at the time are you up 24/7
????? Someonetookowencraft (talk) 07:12, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Never mind did not know it’s 8 for you but still why get up to do this Someonetookowencraft (talk) 07:14, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-35
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Some musical score syntax no longer works and may needed to be updated, you can check Category: on your wiki for a list of pages with errors.

Problems
 * Musical scores were unable to render lyrics in some languages because of missing fonts. This has been fixed now. If your language would prefer a different font, please file a request in Phabricator.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more about this.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * You will be able to read but not edit Commons for a few minutes on . This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance.
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 13 September. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.

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15:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

September 5th 2021
Hello, I'm Hurryhussar1301. Recently you've reversed my change in the article of Trần Quốc Toản due to my lack of needed source. However, I think the year 1285 for his death should be kept. We are Vietnamese, and most of our popular writings agree that he died at the age of 18, without a certain month of this event (February or May in our lunar calendar)


 * Hi there. I'm afraid we can't keep changes like these without a source. If there are indeed books that discuss the date of death, you should be able to cite it on the article itself. I would advise using RefToolbar to get yourself started. Thank you. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  14:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-36
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The wikis that have Growth features deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 21 of the smallest of those wikis will be receiving the features.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg In 2017, the provided jQuery library was upgraded from version 1 to 3, with a compatibility layer. The migration will soon finish, to make the site load faster for everyone. If you maintain a gadget or user script, check if you have any JQMIGRATE errors and fix them, or they will break.
 * Last year, the Portuguese Wikipedia community embarked on an experiment to make log-in compulsory for editing.  The impact report of this trial is ready. Moving forward, the Anti-Harassment Tools team is looking for projects that are willing to experiment with restricting IP editing on their wiki for a short-term experiment. Learn more.

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15:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-37
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * 45 new Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features.
 * A majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features. The Growth team has published an FAQ page about the features. This translatable FAQ covers the description of the features, how to use them, how to change the configuration, and more.

Problems
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 14 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Starting this week, Wikipedia in Italian will receive weekly software updates on Wednesdays. It used to receive the updates on Thursdays. Due to this change, bugs will be noticed and fixed sooner.
 * You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet.
 * The syntax highlight tool marks up code with different colours. It now can highlight 23 new code languages. Additionally, <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> can now be used as an alias for the Go programming language, and a special <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> mode has been added to show a program's output.

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15:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-38
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias. For the majority of small Wikipedias, the features are only available for experienced users, to test the features and configure them. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
 * MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed.
 * A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping Jon (WMF) on wiki or in phabricator if any problems are reported.

Problems
 * There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of an accidental restart of the search servers.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The meta=proofreadpage API has changed. The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> parameter has been renamed to <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . API users should update their code to avoid unrecognized parameter warnings. Pywikibot users should upgrade to 6.6.0.

Future changes
 * The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The previously announced change to how you obtain tokens from the API has been delayed to September 21 because of an incompatibility with Pywikibot. Bot operators using Pywikibot can follow T291202 for progress on a fix, and should plan to upgrade to 6.6.1 when it is released.

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18:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-39
<section begin="technews-2021-W39"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.

Problems
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some gadgets and user-scripts add items to the portlets (article tools) part of the skin. A recent change to the HTML may have made those links a different font-size. This can be fixed by adding the CSS class <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The GettingStarted extension was built in 2013, and provides an onboarding process for new account holders in a few versions of Wikipedia. However, the recently developed Growth features provide a better onboarding experience. Since the vast majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features, GettingStarted will be deactivated starting on 4 October.
 * A small number of users will not be able to connect to the Wikimedia wikis after 30 September. This is because an old root certificate will no longer work. They will also have problems with many other websites. Users who have updated their software in the last five years are unlikely to have problems. Users in Europe, Africa and Asia are less likely to have immediate problems even if their software is too old. You can read more.
 * You can receive notifications when someone leaves a comment on user talk page or mentions you in a talk page comment. Clicking the notification link will now bring you to the comment and highlight it. Previously, doing so brought you to the top of the section that contained the comment. You can find more information in T282029.

Future changes
 * The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. See the list of wikis.

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22:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit for Philip Odera
I am qualified to make changes to the Philip Odera entry because I was his girlfriend in college. I know what grad school he went to because I paid most of his tuition. How do I cite myself as a source?

108.59.125.101 (talk) 04:14, 28 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but merely being closely associated with him does not make you a reliable source. When changes need to be made to birth dates, we can only accept what is written on sources such as news articles, or by sources directly linked to the subject (i.e., websites, not personal knowledge). lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  15:40, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-40
<section begin="tech-newsletter-content"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can let the developers know.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some gadgets and bots that use the API to read the AbuseFilter log might break. The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> property will no longer say an entry is <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> for unsuppressed log entries about suppressed edits. If your bot needs to know this, do a separate revision query. Additionally, the property will have the value <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> for visible entries; previously, it wasn't included in the response.
 * A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them will be enabled for all production wikis. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist you can let the developers know.

Future changes
 * You can soon get cross-wiki notifications in the iOS Wikipedia app. You can also get notifications as push notifications. More notification updates will follow in later versions.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The JavaScript variables <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">, <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> , and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> will soon be removed from <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . These are not part of the "stable" variables available for use in wiki JavaScript.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The JavaScript variables <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">, <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> , <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> , and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> will soon be removed from mw.config. Scripts should instead use <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> from the "<bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">mediawiki.cookie " module.

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16:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-41
<section begin="technews-2021-W41"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).


 * The "auto-number headings" preference is being removed. You can read T284921 for the reasons and discussion. This change was previously announced. A JavaScript snippet is available which can be used to create a Gadget on wikis that still want to support auto-numbering.

Meetings
 * You can join a meeting about the Desktop Improvements. A demonstration version of the newest feature will be shown. The event will take place on Tuesday, 12 October at 16:00 UTC. See how to join.

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15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-42
<section begin="technews-2021-W42"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Toolhub is a catalogue to make it easier to find software tools that can be used for working on the Wikimedia projects. You can read more.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The developers of the Wikipedia Android app are working on communication in the app. You can now answer questions in survey to help the development.
 * 3–5% of editors may be blocked in the next few months. This is because of a new service in Safari, which is similar to a proxy or a VPN. It is called iCloud Private Relay. There is a discussion about this on Meta. The goal is to learn what iCloud Private Relay could mean for the communities.
 * Wikimedia Enterprise is a new API for those who use a lot of information from the Wikimedia projects on other sites. It is a way to get big commercial users to pay for the data. There will soon be a copy of the Wikimedia Enterprise dataset. You can read more. You can also ask the team questions on Zoom on 22 October 15:00 UTC.

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20:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-43
<section begin="technews-2021-W43"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Coolest Tool Award 2021 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 27 October.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Diff pages will have an improved copy and pasting experience. The changes will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax.
 * The version of the Liberation fonts used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change.

Meetings
 * You can join a meeting about the Community Wishlist Survey. News about the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes will be shown. The event will take place on Wednesday, 27 October at 14:30 UTC. See how to join.

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20:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Good faith edit?
Regarding this edit: whyever would you indicate to the IP user, and the wider editorial community in the edit summary, that wilful page blanking and inane chalkboarding is "good faith"? Ref (chew) (do) 10:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Probably shouldn't have used AGF in this instance, but this was pretty much someone trying to post a memorial to a deceased friend/relative, rather than outright vandalism IMO. lavender &#124;(formerly HMSSolent )&#124; lambast  15:15, 25 October 2021 (UTC)