User talk:H Laura E

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I'm a new editor on wikipedia and I've been asked by a friend, John Hartmann, to correct inaccurate information on his brother, Phil Hartman,s page. Your editor, Drmies, removed the information because I did not use citations to previously published material. Of course, I understand the need to keep information on wikipedia as accurate as possible. My question is how shall I cite this material, as much of it is not in print or has been reported in print erroneously? John Hartmann is open to being quoted and has taken great care to make sure the information is accurate, especially since he was a witness and participant in the events.

Thanks for your help.

H Laura E (talk) 04:05, 12 March 2019 (UTC)H Laura E
 * It'd help if the information is referenced by reliable sources, even if those sources are offline. Also, writing in a neutral tone can help your edit be retained. Of course, might have something to add. I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @  05:25, 12 March 2019 (UTC)


 * We expect all edits to be supported by reference to published, verifiable sources. We can't accept changes based on personal knowledge. I realize that may seem to be a bit counter-intuitive. You may use the talk page at Talk:Phil Hartman to add an edit request (use the requested edit template) to specify what you believe needs to be changed and provide whatever evidence or testimony you are able to provide. Another editor will have to evaluate this information, perhaps do some additional research, and may add it, or, at least, remove improperly sourced disputed information. You should not be trying to edit the article directly.
 * The above advice is what we commonly tell people who have a conflict of interest with respect to the subject of an article. If you edit in other areas, you can be bolder and edit the articles directly, but the need for supporting references must always be kept in mind.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:30, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have little to add to what I dream of horses said: it's correct, we may only include information that is verifiable, which in practice means published. I do wonder about the encyclopedic quality and neutrality--if a petition for a memorial isn't verified, it is probably not worth mentioning, and phrasing such as "Shocking the audience, John said..." just isn't very encyclopedic. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for the excellent advice. I'll proceed as you all suggest. H Laura E (talk) 03:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)