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Muwaqqit
Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Muwaqqit has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

A couple of points: the word muwaggit appears in italics. When it was pluralised in the article the final "s" was not italicised. This made no sense, and looked wrong to me, so I put the complete word, muwaggits, in italics.

Any terms I found defined in the Merriam-Webster on-line dictionary I consider in "common use" so they are not italicised; any I did not are. (This does not always agree with some of the Wikipedia articles which I suspect need fixing.)

I would suggest moving the History section up in the article before the Duties section to improve the flow of the information in the article.

Best of luck with the DYK nomination.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the copyedits and the suggestions. About the italicization of the s in "muwaqqits", do you know if there's any MoS or style guide about it? I notice King (one of the main sources of the article) does not capitalize it (e.g. King 1983, p. 543 and others) while Brentjes does. I think the reason for not capitalizing is that while muwaqqit is a foreign word, the -s ending is not because it's an English pluralization and Arabic does not pluralize nouns that way. In any case, I defer to your judgement on this. By the way, the DYK was approved and it is set to appear on 6 February, so good timing :) HaEr48 (talk) 04:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Per WP MoS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Text_formatting#Foreign_terms it does not anticipate a situation where a "foreign" word is made plural with the addition of an "s" in a manner not done in the original language. Since you have one author who does italicize and one who does not, I suspect its a matter of choice. If adding an "s" is not how Arabic pluralizes a word, how about using the word that results in it being pluralized correctly? (Perhaps with a foot note explaining what you've done.) Or, perhaps better you could add a footnote at the first appearance of muwaqqits with the "correct" plural written in English? Sorry, I don't know how to resolve this, but a non-Arabic speaking reader like myself would not be aware of the issue but would, I think, agree that not italicizing the "s" looks "odd".

All the best

Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Muwaqqit
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I'll proceed the message with English instead. :)

I've recently nominated Pekarangan to FA status (I hope it's a good move for the article). If there's spare time, is it okay for you to help in reviewing it? I wish I might gain enough knowledge on the nominating process. Your help will be really appreciated. Thank you very much. :D Dhio-270599 11:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)


 * sorry for the late response. If you're confident with the comprehensiveness and the quality of the content, then yes that's a good move. The reviewers will help you with minor improvements such as grammar, clarity etc. and they will usually be happy to do that given that you put so much effort researching and expanding the content. I agree, you will learn from the nominating process and it will help you knowing what to improve further in the article. I put the nomination page in my watchlist, will try to review if I have time, but no promise. Good luck! HaEr48 (talk) 13:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the appreciative response. I'll do my best in improving as per reviews :D Dhio-270599 12:47, 29 February 2020 (UTC)