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Hi, recently you nominated this article for deletion. The result was delete however it has since been restored by user:Fenix Down without any discussion. Something funny seems to be going on here. Simione001 (talk) 22:54, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

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A11 Made up one day
Hi. Sorry, but you shouldn't use that on people (or anything else that's really solid...). It's for things that could be real, but no notability is shown (or likely), and no-one outside a very small group is likely to have even heard of them. This means things like new drinking games like Vodka Pong (think Beer Pong with an added quality of removing idiots from society...), new words like 'squangefrit' (the feeling you get when you wake up alongside a dead porcupine, or green navel lint), or the game of Waterball (a cross between water polo and baseball which is the newest fashion in the nation, or at least, allegedly in the part of the nation that is Class 6G at Deadmole Flatts High). These could exist. People are stupid enough. But these things are why we have A11 - they can't prove they are real, and we can't prove they aren't. They sure as heck ain't notable or even significant. On the other hand, people exist or don't. They do things, or don't. A claim that a 13 year old has married Madonna is a hoax, and a claim that someone played for Squidgeley FC in 2027 is also a hoax. They aren't real, and at present, can't be. (WP:CRYSTAL takes care of future potential...) There is a lot of confusion about the difference between made-up and hoax. On WP. made-up could be real (WP:AGF), but hoax is clearly deliberate misinformation. I'm trying to catch as many patrollers as I can to make the differences clearer, as if a criterion gets misapplied too much, the save the rubbish brigade will try to get it scrapped. (I'm still not sure how A11 got through the discussions anyway - but it's useful.) Peridon (talk) 15:08, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * should I have gone for A7? Hack (talk) 15:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No, not really. One of the claims was 134 appearances for Swansea City (with 104 goals). By itself, that would easily pass A7. The problem is that he 'did' it in 2023-26. By my calendar, that's impossible. G3 hoax is the right criterion - which is what I used. I seem to remember a kid called Lachie that we've already had trouble with, by the way, but I can't track it down because the WP search system won't give near misses on deleted items. There was another article by this title in which he appeared to be a school rugby player. I'm going to warn him. He's had his brief moment of glory... Peridon (talk) 15:29, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It may not have been a complete hoax though. The subject may exist and legitimately be at the football club he claimed to currently play for. Hack (talk) 15:44, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Doesn't really matter. The thing was posted as wishful thinking or deliberate misinformation. The hoax is the parts he hasn't done. What he has done looks to fail A7 at a quick look, but the G3 overrides that anyway. We get these fairly often. Kids trying to look good to their mates, and prove how Wikipedia isn't accurate as well. On occasion, it's a parent or older brother who creates it as a 'birthday card', but allowing it is opening the door for more 'tributes', 'memorials', 'cards' and other social media stuff. It does come hard deleting a 'memorial' to a small child, but it's got to be done if the standards are to be kept up, and we aren't to descend into becoming another Facebook. With memorials and such, I don't 'warn' but explain. Oh, yes, I tracked down the other Lachie after a bit. No connection to this one. Peridon (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

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Neal Ashkanasy
Dear Hack

I presume the issue is the content of the first line. I have added a citation to support this. All other points are accompanied by reliable citations. Can you please remove the banner?

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Nice work, but...
Thanks for doing some heavy lifting with moving the articles. If you don't mind me saying, please remove the Category if you've reviewed the article and it's fine. Otherwise, while I'm checking through the Cat I'll keep stumbling on articles you've already moved. Cheers. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:39, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * sure, no worries. Hack (talk) 15:42, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Groovy. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:43, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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Hi - I left a talk page message on this page. Almost all of these articles for KYCC were deleted by PROD with this one being the only one which was deleted by AfD. I decided at the time to reinstate this one alongside the others, as per WP:BOLD. Bobo. 18:46, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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This whole situation could have been avoided if, like the other cricket biography articles, such as Satyen Bhattacharjee, you had placed a cleanup notice instead of a deletion notice. Please would you consider doing this instead? Let's face it, those articles could do with a face-lift! I've made this suggestion on the talk page for when someone sees the hang-on tag. Bobo. 19:16, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

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Dear User: Hack

As a member of the "WikiProject Australian rules football" it would be good to hear your opinion on a current debate occurring on the 2018 AFL season talk page.

The debate centres around whether or not a third column should be included in the club attendance table to display "home state games vs. interstate opposition".

The main justification is that Victorian clubs play on average 7 home derbies each year compared to non-victorian clubs who play only 1 home derby each year. This provides an average home figure for Victorian clubs which is inflated as their home games have the fans of other Victorian clubs attending.

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