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Just wanted to let you know that my username looks like this Jakob now. Ja<b style="background:blue;color:Green;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 03:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool! :D Ha  dg  er  03:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I was required to change it to this: <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> for people with vision impairments. It's about the same anyway. <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 03:53, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

New subject, I think
Please tell me if I added the heading incorrectly. <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 21:16, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Where are the more detailed comments that you were talking about? Also, are you asking me for help with making articles more neutral and encyclopedic? Hadger 03:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC) By the way, I see on your user page that you are interested in being adopted. I'll adopt you if that's fine with you. :D Hadger 03:43, 20 November 2012 (UTC) Hello Hadger - I would really, really appreciate your adoption Hadger. Sounds like an orphanage - LOL.... I wrote the more detailed comments on your talk page Hadger......I need to improve my functionality on this communication thing......Did I do that correctly? I found your talk page, and added the detailed comments. As my comments stated Hadger, I am being challenged about my lack of nuetrality, and am getting stymied countering it. The article in question is considered extremely nuetral by its' authors, so by definition, when I suggest opposite alternatives, I must be non-nuetral. They are blocking all attempts at balancing things out. I need someone to guide me, to keep me on the "nuetral" straight and narrow so to speak, so that when this is opposed, I can be confident that I am OK. Also Hadger, I would like some preliminary discussions to contextualize things, so that what I wish to change/rewrite is understood, as to where I am coming from. Can we do that via E-mail, and then revert here when we are agreed on the facts and major themes that are at play. The article is called "2010 Thai Political Protests".... I wouldn't mind ignoring all my previous attempts and comments that have been challenged with respect to their nuetrality, and start fresh, with someone looking over my shoulder. BTW, I am a Canadian, political junkie with an American Poly-Sci. degree, retired in Thailand, and married to a Thai Democracy activist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferwert (talk • contribs) Hey Hadger - upon closer scrutiny, I discovered you are a twelve year old boy.....Is that correct? Given the in-depth mentorship I am seeking as per my comments written previously, but a twelve year old boy is not the degree of maturity I need. Correct me of I am wrong in this score however...Sincerely FERWERT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferwert (talk • contribs) 04:17, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like to let you know that you should sign your comments by typing ~ at the end of your messages. :)
 * Also, can we do it here? I don't really check my email often. If you want to, I can create a page devoted to you and me making discussions about your articles.
 * Anyways, about the whole neutrality thing, articles should be neutral because we don't want to sound like we support one side over the other. We want to make it so that when people read Wikipedia, they read facts, not our opinions. However, it is appropriate to write about other people's opinions. For example, it wouldn't be appropriate to say that a video game is the worst video game ever created; however, it would be okay to say that, for example, Metacritic said that a game was the worst video game ever created. Even tiny comments, such as "the video game received critical acclaim," is seen as non-neutral, because some people might not see the reviews of the video game as "critical acclaim." To learn about neutrality, see Neutral point of view. :) Ha  dg  er  04:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, about me being twelve years old, I think that I still have a thorough understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines despite my age. I have been editing Wikipedia for three years, and I've learned a lot about Wikipedia during that time. I can still help you with Wikipedia even though I am twelve years old. Maybe you can try having me as your mentor for awhile, and if it seems like I'm just not mature enough, you can choose someone else to be your mentor. :) Ha  dg  er  04:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for signing my guestbook! <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 21:50, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Hadger - You may be interested in what i wrote John Lewis. Your continued interest is appreciated Hadger, and I welcome any asistance you can provide...Sincerely FERWERT "Hello John – Thank you very much for offering your mentoring assistance. Being a newby to Wikipedia processes, I hope your offer remains in place, although as Hadger mentioned, that may be in question. Be that as it may, let me give you some background as to where I am coming from. As mentioned to Hadger, before I realized he was a very young man, and admirable for his engagement, this whole question of Nuetrality is an interesting question when it comes to depicting political events that clearly have a side “A” and a side “B”. How to reconcile those two sides into a narrative reflecting the realities on both sides. I recall from my University debating activities, one needed to be able to debate one side of the issue, then turn on a dime, and argue the other side equally vociferously. In this instance, I could easily do the same thing, as the two sides of this Thai Political divide are easily defined. The current narrative describing the events of the 2010 Thai Political Protests on Wikipedia is clearly representative of side “A”. I know the perspective of side “B” (the protesters) and this is very clear to me. I could also represent side “A” very vehemently. It is not rocket-science. However, if the author considers the neutrality of this article beyond reproach, by definition, that makes alternatives invalid, and legitimizes deleting them altogether. He refers to his 39 photo’s as evidence of such neutrality, when they are also looked at through a different lens by Side “B”. Two perspectives from a different POV demonstrate this - #1-Calling them foto’s of a military crackdown alone, brings their neutrality into question. Side “A’ underlying theme of anarchic protesters are bolstered by the images, and the ½ dozen or so foto’s involving military in benign poses with barely a gun in sight support the Side “A”  narrative. Having seen the video’s playing at side “B” rallies with military guns ablaze, protesters faltering in their run due to a bullet in their chest, protesters lying on the ground with a bullet hole dead-center in their forehead, soldiers putting the boots to little old ladies in tents. This doesn’t even mention the nurse in the temple and a 75 year-old protester shot through the foot by an expanding bullet, another one  in the eye which causes constant tears. These are the alternative perspectives not incorporated within the narrative currently in Wikipedia, never mind the political context, which is the most important. Line #1 of the current narrative is grossly misrepresentative of the political context, which is then projected throughout the article. There are two perspectives of both these clashes as well as the politics behind them. My attempt to bring them into the equation have been summarily deleted. Even my request to at least discuss the alternatives to the current narrative have been dismissed. In large part using process related reasons. And that brings me to my point of needing a mentor to guide me through the process, in a way that does not use process to eliminate neutrality. With some assistance bringing balance to this single article, I will presumably gain the process capability of extending it to other representations of this political divide in Thailand. I understand you also read my similar representations to Hadger before I realized how young he was, and that is good. I hope others read what I have written you, and cause there to be some pause about what is neutral in this regard. I understand however, another reality that will be at play. Side “B” as discussed above, is an electoral majority in Thailand and accordingly the underpinning of elected Governments. It is a gross minority among Native English speakers. There is always the tendency to dismiss English language perspectives outlining the above by that community, to the extent that its’ minority can appear to be otherwise, and those who provide this balance be seen as aberrations. Within the balance of majority vs. minority, that does not apply. Anyway John, let me know regarding this mentoring thing, so that I can proceed “smart” instead “ of “dumb” within a process that I am unfamiliar with at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferwert (talk • contribs) 03:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Archives
Hi! I would need some assistance from you, if you don't mind. I have no idea how to archive my talk page, and it's getting rather full. If you would help me that would be great. Thanks, <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 21:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * See User:MiszaBot/config. :) Ha  dg  er  23:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 23:53, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hi! I used to go under the username of FatBaker, but I created a new account for myself; the one I have now. How do I delete my other account? Thanks, <b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">Ja</b><b style="background:blue;color:Lime;">ko</b><b style="background:blue;color:Yellow;">b</b> 18:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for reverting all those unsourced IP edits. It seems that I can't leave Wikipedia for 1 day for the holidays without having massive editing that is nothing more but unsourced character statuses. Let's just hope that Cartoon Network or Teletoon confirms all those characters soon so all this madness can stop. :P Giggett (talk) 04:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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