User talk:Hadleyggeorgetown/sandbox

Prof D's Feedback -- It looks like the notes up top are for some not yet developed sections about diagnosis and classification and social factors and consequences. I'd love to see these developed a bit -- I think they're very important, and the sources look good. I think the History section really would benefit from a discussion of and linking to hysteria more generally, and the general social classification of women as "hysterical" -- what do you think? In general, some wiki-hyperlinking would really be useful here.

I think Lexi's mention of the Yellow Wallpaper is useful and may bring balance if you mention it -- that said, both with the Margery Kempe and the Yellow Wallpaper references, it's important to not rely solely on the primary text -- but do some quick keyword searches for a secondary text that discusses postpartum depression in both. They're out there. That said, I wonder, if a subsection on autobiographical and fictionalized/literary accounts of PPD may be interesting to consider. Only if the group thinks they know a critical mass of maybe three texts that could go in there.

The Andrea Yates story brings up another question of sub-division -- that of Post Partum Psychosis vs Post Partum Depression -- I would imagine some differentiation should be made?

Overall great work so far, and I definitely would like to see a second version before it goes live if possible. Also, the peer reviews are all helpful, do take them into account. Let's be in touch! Thanks for your important work here. --T. Danylevich (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Really great work, you have a lot of good sources too! Here are some of the notes I have after reading: - Provide a link to Hippocrates - when introducing Margery Kemp consider starting a new paragraph or a smoother, more informative, transition into the sentence. Same for Castello Branco. - Consider reworking the first article so that it flows not chronologically but from male physician to male physician to female patient. This might not work but maybe just see how it looks! - Perhaps provide a little bit more info on the “scientific theories” mentioned at the end of the second paragraph, feels like it ends just a little abruptly ! - After discussing Andrea Yates maybe try to find some recent statistics if they aren’t already in the article. I see in the notes section there is mention of PPD in the DSM - this would be a great addition! --Deirdregallo (talk) 01:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree with a lot of what Deirde said. You guys have such an interesting article and great sources, but the transition to Margery Kemp could make more sense, and I think you could even introduce the rest of the section with something like "after Hippocrates wrote his thoughts on postpartum depression, there were a series of cases of postpartum depression that gained notoriety in both ancient and contemporary times" or something like that. The way you discuss all the cases feels a little sudden. While I think that the way you provide cases across time is great and really shows the like consistency of female experience throughout time, I think that you could pair each case with more stuff about the attitudes around each one, especially the Andrea Yates case. How did the public and modern case of Andrea Yates change perceptions of postpartum depression? How are these cases related to the history of postpartum depression in cultural and medical contexts aside from being events related to it? I think you just added a sentence after each one or most of them that was like "At this time, people started to reconsider treatment for postpartum depression" etc etc. Otherwise, Great work!--108.16.238.123 (talk) 16:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC) [Rachel]

Peer Review for Postpartum Depression Article - Lexi DelGizzo

To start I think including history about postpartum depression is important and adds more value and context to the existing article. I, personally, did not know that postpartum depression can be traced back to that long ago! I think including this history also shows how stigmatized postpartum depression is, specifically when you talk bout Margery Kemp and her being labeled as "Madwoman". Although you do go into more about how women were treated during this time period, I think to elaborate more about women in asylums and being labeled as insane may be important to add. Also to include more on the different treatments and methods to "cure" these women. For some reason reading about the history of postpartum depression reminds me of the reading The Yellow Wallpaper. Although a different disorder, it is another demonstration of women being misunderstood, mistreated and oppressed. Overall I think your paragraph is Great!! I think if you just add a little context on how women were treated during those times. I think including history about postpartum depression will fit nicely and is much needed in the existing article.

Review by Sanjuana:

Looking at your beginning notes, I think that it would be beneficial to add the information retrieved from the book “Rock-a-by baby”. It is important to look at the history of how postpartum depression started to be recognized since the original article only talks about what it is. Many only know postpartum as the symptoms, so I think it would bring in value to add cultural and societal information to this. This could be through explaining what the first symptoms looked like or what they were characterized by.

In the section of the cause and role of hormones, what is the difference between the DSM and the NIMH criteria? Under the original page, there is a section for diagnosis and I think that it could benefit from having both criteria on there to show possible evolution of what postpartum depression is, or to see the overall scope of it. From your notes, I can see that you are speaking about the diagnosis part heavily. It would be really helpful for the article to include more information on this part, rather than just having a list of symptoms like the original does.

In the sentence, “Ideas surrounding women’s moods and states have been around for a very long time[8], typically recorded by men.” I would suggest saying emotions to make it flow better but up to you. Since you also bring up the terms “Christian mystic”, I would explain it only if it goes with the context of history. Interested to know what that is.

Overall your section of the history of PPD is really insightful and I am glad you are including this section to the overall article, which is something it heavily lacks and needs. I am excited to see more information on this topic that really isn't talked about but is important to the overall health of the mother and child.