User talk:Hagerman/Archive 4

Moved the next half five sixths of a dozen from bots page to here
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Bot still being a pain
Enough with this bot already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.60.229 (talk • contribs)

email
Hi! I enabled my e-mail address

I think the bot misplaced a sig
Here a user went in and added to his comment, and the bot came in and signed the middle of the comment. *Mishatx* - In \ Out   05:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Suggested improvement to HagermanBot
Hi Hagerman, kudos on developing a highly useful bot. I've noticed some false positives with HagermanBot though, when I insert extra text within my own existing comment, if the text is on its own line. Perhaps HagermanBot can check if the closest following signature is from the same user, and if so ignore the addition? —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-02 10:38Z 

dummy timestamp 00:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Single edit opt-out
I like Hagermanbot going after me in case I miss something. There are cases when I intend to skip signing, such as here and here. Is there a way we could have a single edit opt-out feature? E.g. we could add an &lt;!--opt-out--> html comment. Especially useful for newsletters and stuff. NikoSilver 18:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Write "!NOSIGN!" somewhere in the edit summary. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-02 21:08Z 
 * Thanks!! (testing for now...)
 * Perfect (I didn't doubt, I just like watching gizmos work!) :-) NikoSilver 23:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Question
Is it possible to set HagermanBot to unleash hell on a particular page? I'm trying to watch the discussion at Template talk:Crash series, but apparently everyone is adamantly against signing, for whatever reason. Grand master  ka  21:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Everyone's adamantly against signing because "signing" is ridiculous. This is a discussion system on the internet, not a blank piece of paper. Why should a person have to remind the computer to add their signature to their post every single time they post by typing four tildes, when it can just do it automatically? Is it such a surprise that a lot of people have a problem with this absurdity, when it's the only place on the internet where you have to manually identify yourself? When you post on a forum, your username appears automatically; when you send an e-mail, you don't have to put four tildes at the end so the recipeient knows your e-mail address. In the Wikipedia IRC, do you have to put four tildes after every comment otherwise your nick won't show up?

Activity Monitor
As I mentioned a while ago... already archieved== Activity Monitor == So I tried to check what it was monitoring.. but the site seems to be down? So, can you message me whenever its up... or however you want to deal with that. MrMacMan 03:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC) So can you please get back to me? MrMacMan 00:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi HagermanBot
Thanks you!Tokyo Watcher

Help
How do you put those pictures on your user page?Ciara me 23:53, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Hagermanbot false positive
I put a link at the top of an IP talk linking to a past revision, to show older warnings. Hagermanbot signed it, but obviously didn't need to. (Here's the diff). I don't know whether this is the sort of thing you can (or want to) stop the bot doing - in the grand scheme of things, this is certainly not a problem, but I thought you might be interested. Cheers, →Ollie (talk • contribs) 19:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot problem
Hey Hagerman. I want to opt back in so the bot will sign my talk page again. The trouble is that I opted out when my user name was User:Proto, and since then I have changed my user name (yay for Usurpation) to User:Neil. Due to the way your opt-out and opt-in works, I cannot now remove User:Proto from the list. Well, I could remove it manually, but I'm not sure whether that would break something. Can you remove my old user name from the opt-out list? As it's still there, it seems to be stopping the bot working, despite my opting-in under my new user name. Neil  (not Proto ►)  10:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

sory
i didnt know how to add my names tanks dude/bot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.169.199.181 (talk • contribs)

Why is the bot not working?
Hi, Hagerman. The bot didn't work in Jimbo's talk page, so, I added the unsigned template manually as can be seen here. I sent this message just to let you know. Thank you. --Meno25 08:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot + RFC = bad combo
The bot is signing posts (or at least one post) on the request for comment pages; these posts are not supposed to have usernames included in the signature, so this is a problem. siafu 12:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You can place the rfc page on a list of pages that this bot ignores, so you won't be interuppted. Canadianshoper 05:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Boxing Page moved
(cur) (last) 01:10, 25 January 2007 PRehse (Talk | contribs) (←Replaced page with '    Prehse moved this page to archives, but there were many things people did not finish talking about, i unblocked it, there were no complaints, but if that page needs to be archived again, let me know. Also I moved Rocky page to archives,(too many war edits) total mess, since you are online much more often watch over those pages. Let's keep them real nice.  As far as an article being class A or B, you be the judge, but they need lots of improvement. p.s. How to set up an email?Indianawisdom

Talkpage archiving
Just doing the rounds of talkpages previously archived by EssjayBot III. Just to let you know that Misza13 has created MiszaBot III to perform the same function. You can request this Bot's services at User:MiszaBot/Archive requests. WjBscribe 01:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Yo
put a lil delay on this bot. plus, brotherman, if signing IS in fact optional, why make it so punitive? The undertow 12:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I've decided to take the opt out option. It's a pity as I do occasionally forget to sign, but until there is a dealy, I see no choice before I lose my head and recommend the bot be banned. Lurker oi!  17:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

signature in Request for mediation
I thought I was not supposed to sign in that section of document. I had left a request for Win to decide if he wanted to be included in this mediation effort. He has been part of discussion on the talk pages. By his agreement, he has shown desire to be part of this mediation effort and so I added his name to the original request. Dab has left note on the talk page of mediation request, but has not shown his agree/disagree comment in the section yet.Sbhushan 13:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Next
What?22:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)22:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)22:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)~

It.wiki
Hi, I'm wondering I can have HagermanBot's code so I can port it to the Italian Wikipedia.

BTW, the realtime monitoring doesn't seems to work for me.

 Snowolf (talk) CON COI  -  09:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Sign my post message?
Why did you put a message on my talk page instructing me how to put a signature on Talk pages? I might've forgotten maybe once or twice yesterday but I corrected them.--Animasage 16:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


 * ha ha, yeah, Hagermanbot needs a time delay so I can fix my own mistake and not look like a dufus! ;p  Twice now in the past week, it's slipped my mind to sign a comment, and by the time I get back to fix it your bot has already beat me to it!  No fair!  ;p  (Just kidding, your bot is awesome) --Jaysweet 18:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

no i make a mistake
i was begging u for delete the page concerning offshoring for few weeks please if my teacher see this page i will never passed my examen.

Alternative to delay?
I was just kidding when I suggested a delay, but then I saw that a lot of people were very serious about it! I think you've made a case that a delay is undesirable. But I just brainstormed an alternative approach, though I'm not sure if it works...

What if there was a separate opt-in service that allowed users to say, "Yeah yeah, I know about signing posts, it's just sometimes I'm dumb," and if you opt-in to that then when Hagermanbot fixes your posts, it just makes it look like you remembered to --~ instead of saying "this unsigned post fixed by Hagermanbot"?

I dunno, that's probably silly cuz it takes deserved credit away from Hagerman ;D It's just a thought, cuz the main objection that people who want a delay raise seems to be, "it makes me look dumb." This separate opt-in service would at least let us forgetful Wikipedians save face a little bit... ;)

Nah, nevermind, this is a dumb idea. --Jaysweet 20:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * yes. opting in. i agree. if signing is optional, why are we able to sign for someone else? if signing is mandatory, have wikipedia make it so. i think the bot should be banned. the_undertow talk  22:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, the reason why the Wikimedia software cannot enforce mandatory signing is because, what if you go back and copy-edit a comment you already made? You'd have sigs thrust into the middle of your edits all the time, and you could never delete them because they'd get automatically signed!  heh...
 * You can opt out of Hagermanbot if you want, there instructions around here somewhere... I think it's a good bot, actually, though I always get a little embarrassed when I forget to sign. :D --Jaysweet 22:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ahhh. i did opt out because it was bugging me. i dont care for the bot. i dont like anyone signing my name for me. some countries call that forgery. about the mandatory signing - that seems like an easy fix. if this bot can recognize the lack of a sig, then a wiki feature could recognize a duplicate. either way, ive opted out, will attend anger management for wiki peeps that dont like bots, and proceed to have a beer ;) the_undertow talk  22:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Changing a wikilink in the standard message
The HagermanBot standard message includes a wikilink to Sign your posts on talk pages. That page has been renamed Signatures. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * As long as it redirects there its alright. Extranet (Talk 11:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll fix the link in the bot settings. Best, Hagerman (talk ) 03:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot what?
Your Bot has such a way with words in edit summaries! :) Tyrenius 03:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

real bots of genius
we salute you Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 21:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The bot shouldn't have signed that post based on a new version I released a while back. I'll figure out the problem. Thanks! (Love the headline, by the way!) Best, Hagerman (talk ) 03:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Bug report
Your bot attempted to sign a comment left at Articles for deletion/Tankmania Tips+tricks but instead created a new page at Articles for deletion/Tankmania Tips tricks. I see that you haven't edited in a while, so I'll do some investigative work for you... --- RockMFR 23:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
I try to remember to sign it, but I still usually forget. Thouu\gh I am sure I went back and signed all of them.--Kevin mills 12:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot
HagermanBot does not appear to be processing its OptOut/Start list. There's lots of entries on there. Chris cheese whine 00:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot
I haven't seen HagermanBot sign my talk page at all so far, and 2 people didn't sign there. Kaori Mogami 01:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey !! Thanks man. Will try to stick to the policies. Jayanta 18:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot on my talk page
I've tried to set up the Bot to work on my talk page, but I've fouled something up. I presume it's my stupid head, rather than the Bot. If you'd like to fix it, I'd be delighted. --Dweller 14:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Meta spam blacklist
Hello, this bot would be of great assistance on the meta-spam blacklist. m:talk:spam blacklist. It probably gets on average of about 4 to 5 unsigned comments a day, mainly from IPs. Please reply on my talk page. —— Eagle 101  Need help? 05:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Request for info
On Vinegar I left a comment in "discussion" and I noticed your bot added this.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.241.170.87 (talk) 04:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

I noticed two small spelling errors and corrected them after leaving a comment in discussions.

I'm honestly not sure of the proper method to 'sign'

Did I screw up? I pickle and use vinegar as a hobby and figured to correct a few errors. I also noticed that the section that I corrected also has been moved down.

My email is [deleted] if you want to enlighten me on any errors your bot corrected.

Hi, signing names
Hi, signing names

Actually, I didn't know that. thxs Intranetusa 16:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Signing on WP:AFC
I wanted to implement HangermanBot on WP:AFC but I was concerned about where it would sign the comments. On AFC after a proposed article is reviewed a user lists a reson for the decline or an accepted message, followed by a afc b tag. Would it be possible to have HangermanBot sign before the afc b tag? Feel free to reply here. --24fan24 (talk) 21:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion for HagermanBot: improved edit summaries
First, thanks for writing and maintaing HagermanBot. I really appreciate having it running around taking care of unsigned posts. Second, you might want to refine how the bot generates edit summaries. It looks like it just takes the summary used by the person who failed to sign. This can be a bit confusing in the case of something like this. It might be good to specifically add the correct section title if a new section was added like that. — Alan De Smet | Talk 00:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Got it! I think I'll implement Tagishsimon's suggestion and word the edit summary as "/* Section title */ Previous post unsigned by %Username%" Best, Hagerman (talk ) 03:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Testing The Bot
Testing The Bot —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shoessss (talk • contribs) 09:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for the chuckle
This edit by HagermanBot made me laugh :). Thanks! Extraordinary Machine 23:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi there found you in the Gay Wikipedians category
I think you are cute!I live in Florida also,sadly not near you,however.Would you like to be friends?I'm new to all this code stuff and would like a friend who has knowledge about it.One thing I would like to know how to do is how do I add an image of myself to wikipedia,and add it to my user page.I had an account before,but it got deleted for some reason,I don't know why.In my last account I only added one picture of a musician I was gonna write an article on.I guess the picture was categorized wrong.I asked the website I got it from for permision to use it on wikipedia,but never got a response,then my account got deleted.But this was years ago,I have sense forgot how to add a picture to wikipedia.I would love to know how to make a gallery like i've seen some user pages have,with images related to themselves.If you would like a friend,or can help me,contact me. (Natthegreat 09:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC))

Talk:Sky Content Completely Replaced
HagermanBot seems to have done something weird to Talk:Sky on 04:07, 12 April 2007. I reverted it Spiel496 16:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Bot confused by article title?
Hi. Hagermanbot seem to have created this by accident. Probably something in the code about '+' signs. See Talk:1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + · · · also. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:01, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ahh, yes, there is a bug with the DotNetWikiBot framework the bot uses to communicate with Wikipedia. I corrected the problem with the & character, but it looks like the + is being affected too. I'll rewrite the framework to apply URL encoding to all characters that go into the query string. Thanks! Hagerman (talk ) 02:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I did not edit Thrill Smitti
I did not do anything to the Thrill Smitti article.There must have been some kind of mistake.

Unsigned Bot
A fast bot I have to say. No sooner than I was posting, and realized I failed to sign it while it was loading....... as soon as I go back in it already editted in that I didn't sign.

KV(Talk) 23:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes creates an error
Your bot apparently deleted my comment inbetween the bot's tagging of a signature and my post -- so my post got removed. See here. MrMacMan Talk  00:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot amendment suggestion
Would you mind considering whether HagermanBot might be amended such that when posting a didn't sign message such as this, it leaves a comment which includes a link to the section in which the edit took place (i.e. a linked arrow, as seen in the comment here.) It looks like HagermanBot has a hold of the parameter it needs since it includes the section title string in quotes as the last part of the didn't sign message. Thanks --Tagishsimon (talk)
 * Very clever idea! Sure, I'll have to reword the string that the bot signs with but I can definitely drop that support in. Thanks! Hagerman (<font color="#66CC00">talk ) 03:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Web2.0 troubleshooting
I noticed you removed my addition to troubleshooting. This issue was brought up to discussion in the discussion page. Please advise.217.132.157.198 05:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Left a message on the bot's talk page
Regarding Talk:Larry Pinkney. Crockspot 20:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC) How to create a page. I don't now how to start one and I went to the Help desk but I couldn't figure out how. Please Help me.Bubblegum9898 16:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Source code
Hey, could I have the code for HagermanBot? I'd like to use it on my wiki, which is hosted on Wikia. I'll give you full credit and have a big note on the bot's userpage that the code came from you.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 18:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, this is something I've been meaning to do for a while. I've got a couple of bugfixes to introduce and then I'll post the source of the bot on SourceForge. Thanks for your interest! Best, <font color="#330066">Hagerman <font color="#66CC00">(<font color="#66CC00">talk ) 03:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Trying to Catch Up!!!
All... Sorry I've been MIA for so long. I just got back from a business trip and I'm trying to get caught up. I probably won't respond to every inquiry and if I miss yours feel free to repost it. Thanks! <font color="#330066">Hagerman <font color="#66CC00">(<font color="#66CC00">talk ) 02:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Just a note...
I have slightly adjusted the config on HagermanBot's talk page. One thing is, you need a secret key from me to make it archive to a non-subpage (security reasons) and the other is, I don't really know what you meant by "11", so I've set it to 11 hours. Feel free to adjust (MiszaBot will not run again until tommorow). Cheers and thanks for using MiszaBot's services. :) Миша 13 13:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure how the hell I entered 11... I must have been really tired last night! I meant to do 1h so that basically everytime the bot ran it would move every comment over to this talk page. Does that make sense? Thanks for adding the MD5 key! Best, <font color="#330066">Hagerman <font color="#66CC00">(<font color="#66CC00">talk ) 15:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That makes perfect sense - I know at least one other bot operator that has messages delivered to his talk this way (you could also just redirect the talk page to yours, like I did with my bots). Btw, you could specify "0h" as well (not that it makes any difference - my bot runs only once daily anyway). Be advised however, that MiszaBot uses minor edits, so being a flagged bot doesn't trigger the "You have new messages" bar. Миша 13 16:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure if I could do 0h without causing some unexpected behavior from the bot. I'm glad to know I can do that! I used to redirect my bot's talk page directly to this page but then I'd get too many confused edits from people who thought I personally added the unsigned template to their page. The giant link has worked well until I left for a few weeks and it built up. Thanks for your help! Best, <font color="#330066">Hagerman <font color="#66CC00">(<font color="#66CC00">talk ) 16:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Corcoran
Your bot or whatever it is continually edits the article Corcoran ,it states that the surname Corcoran is British and pre-dates the Roman Empire which is false,the sources are unreliable also,look at the talk page for it. OdC 15:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot Compromises Editorial Autonomy
HagermanBot sucks for all the reasons mentioned already...

The bot is intrusive and compromises editorial autonomy. Mistakes are made while editing on Wikipedia. Logic errors, typos, spelling, grammar, proper citations and neglecting to sign comments on talk pages. I am all about collaborating and having my shoddy work corrected by fellow editors, and I do not need a mother looking over my shoulder while editing. I hope you can appreciate this comment because the HagermanBot sets a precedence that compromises editorial autonomy. Paradoxos 00:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I do appreciate your work developing the bot. Opt-in is better than Opt-out - I opted out. Paradoxos 01:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

but robots love comments, too. How else will they achieve sentience? :) Arcayne 13:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

about this bot
This bot operates a bit fast. I forget to sign, but deside remenber a second later, it already signed. It would be easier for wikipedia if it could operate slightly slower, like if it auto signed after a minute if you forgot to sign.--Sefringle 19:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Opt-out ... it's the way to go. :) The Behnam 19:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Sevringle's comment. How about giving a reasonable time (15 minutes or so) for people to notice they didn't sign.  --SteveMcCluskey 16:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Extremely Unencyclopedic Content
I don't care if this is a bot, and if it is an obvious joke, but it seems to me that if I had on my userpage the idea that I was responsible for some part of a historic document that was written more than a century and a half before I was born it would be inappropriate, and in contravention of userpage guidelnes. Just a thought Jethro 82 23:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's completely okay to put stuff like that on any user page, not just a bot's page. (unsigned for a reason. :-) ) — Alex(T 03:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Came back and signed it, bot didn't catch me. — Alex(T 03:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see why. — Alex(T 03:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

thanx
thanx for the information homeboi..i owe u one :P --S.U.H.E.L. 08:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the warning.
Thank you for warning me about not signing the message about In Case of Emergency. If I hadn't signed it at the last minute, I don't know what would've happened. AdamDeanHall 20:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy
I know, its absolutely horrible that I didn't sign my comment on the FOB talk page, it could have, like destroyed the damn universe. You're just in denial abou how bad your favorite band is. But seriously, have you ever heard him sing live? If not, you need to. My 17 year old pitbull could do better, and he's tone deaf!
 * I love reading people ranting to a bot. Please keep it up! (Oh, and you forgot to sign!! ;)) --kingboyk 16:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I second that 'tis very funny. Bass fishing physicist 16:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

OK twice...
Twice this eve, this Bot has cut off my signature, just to "correct" my unsigned post. WTF, eh? Let me sign the thing myself, and give me time to save it before rushing in and posting that I forgot to sign a post. ESPECIALLY one where I was trying to reach out to a suspected vandal who suddenly appeared to have reverted his/her own vandalism. No help at all! You wanna sign this for me, or do I get a chance? Esseh 02:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Operator Active
I've received notice that this operator has NOT left the project, and will be responding to feedback soon. Thank you, — xaosflux  <sup style="color:#00FF00;">Talk  01:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for helping advice--Missionimpossible 03:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

STOP SPAMING
If you continue spaming the pages you will be baned I will make sure of that if dont post things that you have no proof of and stop copying people posts and chaning them


 * mate this si your third offense one more time and you will be baned ill make sure of that

My fault. Thanks and sorry. Byzanz 11:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Larry Pinkney
There are some habitual non-signers on Talk:Larry Pinkney, but I have never seen this bot step in to sign for them. Is there something in the code or categorization of the page that prevents this? I've been having to add unsigned templates myself to this page, but it's getting tedious. Can someone check it out for me? Thanks. - Crockspot 20:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I would send you a basket of assorted fruit but you're a bot. Your tips help me and you help the world thank you.--Wayne Neptune 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC) P.S. I remember to sign. later

Thank you...
... for this. --Complex (de) 15:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I got an edit conflict removing the vandalism. Please fix it. —DerHexer (Talk) 15:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot: Request for Help and/or sourcecode
Hi. I am a user in Thai Wikipedia and thinking about adding such functionalities into my bot for Thai Wikipedia. It is also written in C# but the framework I am using doesn't provide support for previous revisions. This is giving me problems to write bots to prevent vandalism or for adding an unsigned template. Any help on this would really be greatly appreciated! --Jutiphan | Talk  - 07:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Broken
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:BMW_motorcycles&diff=128058007&oldid=128057936 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.189.126.6 (talk) 21:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC).

Bot
Hagerman, your bot is just a bit overzealous (assuming a bot can have human qualities). Anyway, I am adding instances of violations to an RfC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/ImprobabilityDrive) and these, of course, should not be signed. The bot however, seems not to recognise that the page is an RfC. <font face="Times New Roman" color="FF2400">&#0149;Jim <font face="Times New Roman" color="F4C430">62 <font face="Times New Roman" color="000000">sch&#0149; 11:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Do you think you could add a brief delay?
Whenever I write a long post (which I try not to do, but often do anyways), I forget to sign it when I post it.

I always review my comments twice to make sure they post right, and usually catch this on my own, only to run into editing conflicts with bots on any articles except really obscure ones.

Do you think you could put, say, a five minute delay into the bot's function? It's rather too good as it is.

I'm sure I mustn't be the only one with this issue. --71.192.116.13 06:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletes EVERYTHING????!?
Thanks Mr Idiotbot. I signed my comment, and ended with some links to help explain my comments better. You cannot comprehend this so you delete everything? (Personal attack removed) Darklight1138 23:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh
Sorry SWATRAGHGAC 20:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

To: Wikipedia Office
Dear Admin: HagermanBot and Ryulong, Wikipedia user against in Tau Gamma Phi> AphiO1925 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.194.62.230 (talk) 11:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

Automated messages from Hagermanbot
First, let me say that I love your bot ... mostly. ;^)

It has all but eliminated the need for the template. However, I recently got an automated message from the bot starting out with: "Hello. In case you didn't know, ..." I'm not sure what criteria you use for sending these messages, but it seems to me that if an editor has signed a significant portion of their posts, they probably already know about signing. ;^) It is bad enough that your bot catches when people forget to sign, but when it sends a message worded like that, (IMHO) it adds insult to injury. ;^)

I would recommend that you only send those messages if it is a new editor and/or most of their posts are not signed. For anons, the current message makes sense because you don't know if it is a new editor or not. If you feel the need to send the message to long-time editors, maybe it could start off with "Please remember to sign your posts ..."

Thanks! wrp103 (Bill Pringle) (Talk) 17:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

OptOut/List/Stop not always being processed properly
See this section for just two examples (if you've fixed this since then, great, but I was working under the assumption that I'd been rid of this bot for months...). -- nae'blis 18:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Your bot missed another
Image_talk:Ghostonstaircase.jpg .. Some anon made a comment and your bot didn't sign. SakotGrimshine 22:51, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

bad unsigned tags
— Omegatron 00:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

MODERN TECHNOLOGY, HUH?
IT'S FULL OF POSSIBILITIES Mr 666 12:45 14 May 2007 (UTC +10) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.8.104.113 (talk) 02:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

Note
Hi! My name is Kemal and Karachays are my immediate ancestors. Actually I would like to note that you know shit about this nation. Your conclusions are based on artificial Soviet historical researches which were done when Karachay nation had been genocide and persecuted.

And if you will write something like “Turk’s slave” or “not Alans” again I swear we will find you through your IP address location and smash your fucking head.

Sorry if I was a bit rush.

Regards, Kemal For contacts wtfitf@rambler.ru

Could we step one more further?
This automated system is great since I often forget to add signature. HOwever if the editing page had a button "Save page with signature" or make the current "Save page" button have auto signature fuction. For instance. if you check the "minor edit", no signature but without check signature come with text automatically for "talk" pages.--Shoons 13:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem is...
....the bot can't distinguish between someone who DOESN'T sign a comment and one who signs it unconventionally. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.44.214.197 (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Source code/usage
I'm running a Mediawiki myself, and I'm having trouble with people not signing their talk pages.

Is your bot availible for download anywhere? --YB 07:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot false positive
Hagermanbot seems to be confused by self-reverts. If you check out the actions before this edit, you'll see that I reverted myself after hitting the rollback button by mistake. I restored the page, and then the bot, attributed someone else's unsigned comment to me because I had done the restore. I suspect this would not be a difficult case to check for. Perhaps the bot should check the difference between the first and last edits of the previous editor to see if anything changed. If nothing changed (like in my case), don't autosign. -- Sam<font color="#BBBBEE">uelWantman 21:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

HagermanBot
Has it been broken? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The bot still isn't running. --Lambiam Talk  21:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

false negatives?
Hi Hagerman, first of all: Great idea and great job regarding the HagermanBot! And also great job of weathering off all the criticism! (And I just love the Hancock spiel every time I visit that page... :o))

I'm currently proposing a (probably slightly altered) version of the HagermanBot for the German Wikipedia. I've become a bit confused, however, when I saw how many posts the bot did not sign in the sandbox. I've left comments of several paragraphs there, I've started headlines, I've indented... and the bot hasn't signed any of my stuff since my very first test. As that isn't a great basis for arguments ;o) ... is there currently a problem with the bot? Or why doesn't it work now? Thanks for your help, Ibn Battuta 05:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

PS: As I've seen some people moaning they'd look stupid if the bot signs instead of them (which is kind of stupid in itself, I guess ^^)--maybe it would help if you simply added a note on the top of your page (where you're writing about the delay issue) that it's just as easy to delete the bot's template and sign as it would be to only sign? And the end-result is the same: The next readers sees only the final signature (not the bot's signature), even though the history would tell you in both cases, that the user hadn't signed immediately. Sorry, I guess this wasn't a good description, but I hope you're getting what I meant to say... :o)

you are great
just by seeing your tasks, I'll award your creator -- Andersmusician <font size="3" color="red">$  22:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Mindscript
Hi, I saw HagermanBot fix a chunk of the Mindscript talk page, and I was wondering whether you're working on the article or not, since we could use some help on that article if you have some time to spare. Thanks, Slartibartfast1992 01:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Operators in C and C
fits the criteria for speedy deletion for the following reason: bot error --Android Mouse Bot 2 07:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Bot ignoring the list
Tried to prune some anons from the no-sign list - bot hasn't removed them. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AHagermanBot%2FOptOut%2FList%2FStart&diff=133023818&oldid=133023812 81.104.175.145 21:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Is your bot ignoring me?
Dear Hagerman

I deliberately put an unsigned edit on my user talk page, but nothing happened. I also tried to remove/then add/then remove again my name from the "do not sign" list, but it made no difference. Still, nothing happens!

Is this affecting only me, or is it more general? regards, Lynbarn 13:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not just you. I tagged a comment earlier but the bot didn't catch it, and I see the bot sandbox tests are failing lately.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by User: (talk • contribs)  Like that.  -Jmh123 07:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Bot on Talk Pages
Hi, I've seen your bot in action and was just wondering if it automatically signed comments on User_Talk pages (are these part of the talk namespace?). It would just be great for when the occasional user forgets to sign a comment. Thanks Guycalledryan 02:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Monkey proof message for inexperienced users
Background. A few weeks ago, when I didn't have a cue about wiki interfaces, I edited for the first time a talk page. The HagermanBot warning appeared:
 * —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.20.234.61 (talk) 11:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

I did my best to follow that suggestion and just manually changed the line as follows:
 * Paolo dL 85.20.234.61

I kept signing like this (by copy and paste) for 5 days! I thought it was OK, and only 5 days later I discovered it wasn't. Notice that I am an experienced computer programmer, but the editing interface appeared primitive... HagermanBot is great, but the message it automatically prints may not be effective enough for inexperienced MediaWiki users.

My Request. Please include a monkey proof clue (e.g. a clearly labeled link) about how to sign properly. Consider that those who read it are deemed to be inexperienced users, possibly without an account, who most likely don't even imagine the existence of a "user talk page" for their IP address... Please make their life easier, and make your warning just a bit clearer. For instance:
 * —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.20.234.61 (please read this note) 11:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC). or
 * —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.20.234.61 (talk) 11:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC). See how to sign properly: Full help, or Short help

Would you mind? Thank you. Paolo.dL 09:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

bot working?
Is the bot working? I just had to do an unsigned on the talk page for James Randi. Bubba73 (talk), 01:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears to have stopped working on May 16th for some reason. See here: Special:Contributions/HagermanBot  -- HiEv 14:11, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Nero Burning ROM
The bot doesn't seem to be tagging messages on Talk:Nero Burning ROM. Any idea why? Cheers. —Grim Revenant 12:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The bot doesn't appear to be running at the moment. -- Seed 2.0 12:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That'd do it. —Grim Revenant 14:34, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

A question for you
I'm just wondering if your bot can also just watch my user talk page too. As of lately, not a lot, but just the reply of a user, and possibly in the future, an anknown user is discussing stuff with me about something, and of course, they just refuse to sign, even when I just asked them to do so. Reason I'm asking is that I myself, have no idea on how to add the whole unsigned comment thing onto the page. Thanks. Captain Drake Van Hellsing  Savvy?  01:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Help desk
Help desk has a "Non-talk pages automatically signed by HagermanBot" category, but HagermanBot doesn't seem to be signing any of the unsigned posts. Sometimes, I need to look up who made the post so I can understand their question better. I've been using history to locate the poster, but if HagermanBot placed the signature on the unsigned post, it would save me some time. Thanks. -- <font face="Kristen ITC"><font color="Blue">Jreferee (Talk) 18:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If you have the code to HagermanBot, I could temporarily run a copy on the toolserver. E  talk 22:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Big Brother 2007 (UK) talk page
Talk:Big Brother 2007 (UK) doesn't seem to be getting automatically signed, I've just had to sign for three users who didn't, yet I see no opt out notice on it. Any ideas?
 * Maybe I should read above. John Hayes 23:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Inactive...?
You haven't been very active Mr. Bot, why would that be? <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif"> Lra drama 12:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Your robot's broken...
HagermanBot is broken; it is inactive for some reason. Just letting you know. 63.224.202.1 17:52, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

hello
been using wikipedia for a long time, but am testing out my ability to edit, userboxes etc, and now I'm seeing if this is the proper way to contact another wikipedian, contact me back and possibly I can recieve help on userboxes --ereiyo

Hagerman's gone?
Hagerman must be gone, his computer must be OFF, or his bot would work. I hope he is not deceased.

Something bad must have happened. As he doesn't respond to email sent... Francisco Tevez 12:01, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope not. ): <font color=#DE0000>Oc <font color=#FCD116>t <font color=#DE0000>ane  [ improve me ] 24.07.07 0441 (UTC)

Replacement bot
Chris, I hope all's well. It looks like SineBot is going to take over tagging unsigned comments. Just letting you and anyone else who reads this page know. Hope to have you back soon.  W ODU P  16:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)