User talk:Hakamdin

January 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. ''Please read WP:CONFLICT and WP:OR. Thanks.'' Quaeler (talk) 14:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, people are asking questions how did bagpipe making started in Pakistan, I am just in a sense, answering that question by posting this undermentioned information, if you want, i can prove it with refrences. So,please guide me how to post this information with neccessary changes.

Bagpipe in Pakistan

Mr. Hakam Din being a carpenter (an excellent craftsman) changed his line of work from furniture to Great Highland Bagpipe and in 1890s started repairing bagpipes for British Army (Royal Indian Army), he became the first person to successfully make a Scottish Great Highland Bagpipe in the Indian Sub-Continent. He received a letter of appreciation from Baroda State Army. The letter states: Dear Mr. Hakam Din, thank you indeed for the supply of eight sets of Bagpipes to the Baroda Army. I have much pleasure in certifying to the quality and very fine workmanship displayed in the Bagpipes. The finish is excellent. I can strongly recommend them to any band which is considering the purchase of really good Bagpipes at very moderate cost. This letter changed the course of Mr. Hakam Din's life. It encouraged him to plan for increased production, and consequently in 1910, he opened a new Bagpipe manufacturing facility known as Hakam Din & Sons. Hakam Din's bagpipe is a part of an extensive and throughly documented collection of bagpipes in the National Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh.


 * Hello - please sign your additions on all discussion pages with 4 tildes - thanks. Foremost: as i'm sure you noted when reading the pages concerning conflict of interest and original research, it is frowned upon that a person write content which is considered to be promoting themselves or their business. You appear to be doing this here and, as such, no amount of changes you make will be sufficient so as to add this text to an article.


 * Additionally, all of your text is about a person, as opposed to about bagpipes. If Hakam Din could meet notability, then perhaps you could write an article concerning him; however, in the context of an article about bagpipes, the adventures of one single man of feats which you describe does not merit mention. Quaeler (talk) 15:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

help me Hi, ok if I cannot post this article but, is it possiable to atleast include Hakam Din & Sons in the list of bagpipe makers?


 * I don't know where to start with what's wrong here:
 * First, a wiki-link to " help me " does nothing - what do you imagine it does and where did you get that idea?
 * Second, people don't use the helpme tag frequently, and never once they've started a conversation.
 * Lastly, if you can't do the unbelievably simple thing like signing your discussion edits -- even after you were reminded above... it's simply stunning sloppiness...
 * All of these are likely things you would have realized were you using Wikipedia for anything other than shilling this relatively obscure thing; that you bumble and fumble your way through just trying to get a mere mention of this guy appears to demonstrate a sole aim in promotion.


 * WRT your question, i would ask on the discussion page for that article - and try spending the extra 3 seconds of your important life to sign the edit as some editors choose to ignore sloppy and lazy behaviour instead of railing against it. Quaeler (talk) 07:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)