User talk:Hammer1980/archive2

Your recent report to WP:AIV
Hi there, just a quick note when reporting to AIV, it's not really accepted that anonymous IP's are known as accounts let alone a vandalism only account. This rationale is only really applied to a registered editor who's sole aim is to disrupt Wikipedia, and having only vandalism edits to the account, we would then block the account indefinately as a vandalism only account. Any problems please don't hesitate to give me a shout. Khu kri  17:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello. Sorry about that wasn't aware. Have posted a few like that. What does need to be posted then, just the fact its repeated vandalism ? Cheers Hammer1980 17:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Not a problem at all. General rules of thumb are;
 * Must have a recent final warning, I usually prefer within 24 hours for anonymous IP's as there's a high chance if it's a school it's a different kid.
 * New users (clean talk pages) should have one lvl1 warning on it's page, it's not really accepted to bosh a lvl4 warning on a potentially new editor. Though if it's strong profanity, racism, or equivalent then WP:BOLD and an admin will usually agree with you and block.
 * Something along the lines of 123.123.123.123 continued vandalism to ArticleX after final warning. is the perfect report for admins and we will crawl over each to block it. Any other probs you know where I am. Khu  kri  17:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * One more question. Some of the new ips have blatently vandalised a page with swearing etc so I have missed the first friendly warning (which is really worded to assume they have made a mistake) and gone straight to a caution or even 1st warning. That's not going to cause a problem is it ? Hammer1980 17:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've copied your, questions over here keeps the conversation together, and I can keep an eye on your page for a little bit. I know it's very difficult to take the moral high ground when you are reverting "John smells of poo" for the hundredth time. We have to look at editors like these as if they know no better, and by not instantly hitting the nuke button, explaining why vandalism isn't accepted, I have seen vandal editors turn round and start editing in a positive fashion. Though I will admit to being quit cynical to the alot of the vandalism I see. All of the reports you have done before, don't worry about them. The investigating admin looks to the talk page for warnings, then looks at contributions and they will make a decision for themselves and will either block or remove the report. I myself blocked one of your earlier reports with only a single warning on the page. There are no hard and fast rules, but by tempering WP:AGF with what is good for the encyclopedia you can find a compromising middle ground. Cheers Khu  kri  17:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

More notes
I removed a couple of AIV reports today...this wasn't a good report because hadn't edited since 12:39, October 16, 2007, more than 24 hours ago. Remember, blocks are preventaitve not punitive. This report wasn't appropriate, either, since last edited at 18:36, October 17, 2007, one minute before your level 3 warning. Had the editor done more, I would have blocked, but if vandals stop after being warned, we don't block.

Keep up the good work, but just be careful reporting editors that don't quite meet the expectations of the AIV header--when in doubt, an extra warning is better to give than a block. Cheers, &mdash; Scientizzle 19:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Joe Washington (footballer)
Someone ought to have notified you that this article is up at AfD. Please contribute, as your edits to the page indicate (perhaps wrongly!) some expertise. Either way, it'd be good to have you. --Dweller 08:14, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * NB I referred you to the wrong article - link amended now. --Dweller 08:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Oilver Allen
Redirect has been deleted as requested; the speedy deletion criterion WP:CSD was applicable in this case. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Redirects
Hello. No, as far as redirects point to the right article. - Darwinek 11:50, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Trans warp
I had actually created it as a redirect to Warp drive (as transwarp is) after deleting an earlier nonsense version; the nonsense you tagged for speedy deletion was then re-added later. Obviously not a big deal, but it's always a good idea to look at the edit history to see if there are any earlier versions that are salvageable before tagging something for deletion. Postdlf 18:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Motorcycling Wikiproject
Welcome to the Motorcycling WikiProject. Hopefully you have a good time, start many new articles and can contribute lots to the existing ones as we need that. Cheers ww2censor 00:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Fredrik Lindgren (speedway rider)
Done ;) See polish page SGP. Radziński (t) 16:06, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Done too :) Radziński (t) 16:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Birmingham Brummies

 * You removed West Midlands Cup & Premier League honours for Runners-up, say that they are not honours. But what about football FA Cup the team that finish runners-up there and they include them in there honours so these should be removed, so i think that they need to be re-instated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ucebaggie (talk • contribs) 11:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Larry Ross
Hi, thanks for tidying up the information I added to the page on Larry Ross. It looks much better. I think Larry was a reserve in the 1979 World final but I haven't been able to confirm this. regards Peter H. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterh7 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes I hope to add some information about Mitch Shirra when I get a chance, and also make an entry for Geoff Mardon. Is there a template I can use? I'd like to follow your style. thanks peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterh7 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

...no...
I am not vandalizing. Tell them to stop putting things on MY page then. You come off as very one-sided. Please actually look at WHAT I'm doing before making such comments. I will not tolerate them otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.116.25 (talk) 22:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I think what I'm asking is more reasonable... doesn't it make sense to make it two separate articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.116.25 (talk) 22:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Common Gateway Interface
Thanks for correcting the CGI page. My IP is ***.161 and I just come across some vandalism of ***.141 and wanted to revert it, but I just made an undo. Thanks again for the correction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.132.115.161 (talk) 01:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

On the CGI page an entire section "Workarounds for scripting languages" is missing. Is this intentional? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.132.115.161 (talk) 01:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

never?
So are you telling me this stuff has to remain on my talk page forever? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.116.25 (talk) 07:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Who can I contact about this? This is totally unfair -- others did the EXACT SAME THING as me and received no warning at all.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.116.25 (talk) 18:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I do have an account, but I do not want my IP filled with these messages either. Please either remove them or add warnings to theirs, since they did EXACTLY the same thing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.116.25 (talk) 20:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedway Tables
On the Speedway Elite League page, I have linked to all the years before 1997, because I have found tables for all of them.

Look here. You will then need to click on "Club History". Then you select any given year on the history, and if you scroll down, it will show any of the League Tables that the Heathens were in in that season. They were in the British League all the way though - until the Elite League was formed in 1997.

So, would you like to assist in adding these tables, in the same way as is done on 2007 Speedway Elite League?

Alex Holowczak 13:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Right, that's okay, because I'd started from 1965! I've seen your fan tag for Speedway, I'll add it on a bit later. The only small problem I have is that the source doesn't have team names, so I'm having to do a bit of research on those, which will slow me down. Alex Holowczak 14:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. I'm finished on 1965 British Speedway League, so could you check I've got everything right in terms of team name? I'll just change the year from 2065 to 1965 (just noticed!) and I shall add the reference and then it'll be done. Alex Holowczak 14:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * And also, could we not do with a template for navigation across the British League? To link all the pages together? Alex Holowczak 14:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That's excellent. I read the Wikipedia entry on Long Eaton, and they were the Archers at the time, so I changed it. I then had to create a redirect to the Invaders name, however. I'll press on with 1966. Alex Holowczak 14:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

James River Highschool Edit
Hi there,

You deleted my addition to the James River Highschool (Chesterfield County, Virginia) article saying that the school was a focus of an MTV episode of "True Life" involving the trials and tribulations that gay and lesbians, especially of high school age, face. Please doublecheck on this information that I've provided, it is 100% true. You shouldn't delete things that are true and easily found out of hand, you may want to do RESEARCH verifying things you believe to be false prior to deletion. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.158.197.2 (talk) 00:26, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was unaware of the tilde policy. However, I fail to see how mentioning a FACT about an MTV episode a highschool was featured on is controversial. http://www.styleweekly.com/16under16pages7-12.06.pdf. "Aidan" was the student. There's your source, can find more if you need. 209.158.197.2 04:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Strange diff
I don't know what happened here... Really strange for twinkle to do that. I did a revert with popups that got around it. -- Swerdnaneb 20:53, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

undo edit
Hi You undid my changes to reacticve armor but id like to inform you: The things i did was to remove what was lame writings by a student who had been bored during a history class and had written things like: I hate ww II and bohahaha ect. In other words i removed vansalism - i did not create it. I know i did not do it in one go - as I am new to this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.166.106.126 (talk) 19:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Article on how league matches are played
There isn't anything on how Elite League (or any other League) plays their matches. There could be an article on it, e.g. there are 15 heats, riders must ride 3 times, jokers etc. The only thing I don't know on that is how the riders for each heat are chosen, whether they are just randomly selected or whether they must follow a strict pattern until they've all ridden three times. But either way, I still think such an article could be needed? Oh, and a bit of explanation as to how the Greensheets work? That would be particularly useful on the Polish Extraleague, because I can't for the life of me work out how the averages were calculated. What do you think? Alex Holowczak 21:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your report to AIV
Thanks for the report. 3 people x 24 hours = 72 hours each to enjoy the sun ;) -- lucasbfr talk 17:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

It won't happen again.
I regret that I attacked the user. These immature students from school have been bothering me on Wikipedia, and it's been very annoying.--Padawan Animator (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How did you know about it?--Padawan Animator (talk) 23:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How might I become a part of that?--Padawan Animator (talk) 00:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

AIV report
I can't block - he's only created one page, and filthy though it was, I have to assume good faith. Slap a warning on his talk page, if he does it again, re-report him :-) Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 00:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2008 Vandalism
Since your last revert, the page has been vandalized again by the same user. I have reverted, but can you do something more official? --74.192.3.135 (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting it. Much appreciated. --74.192.3.135 (talk) 23:14, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Lovely. :) --74.192.3.135 (talk) 23:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The Steam House
A red link to it has existed for a long time in the Jules Verne article. Since I actually read this novel (though a long time ago) I thought I would add a small description of what is it about.

A starting point for further improvement, if you will.

As for notability, it is a Jules Verne novel, which pretty much qualifies it automatically.CyrilleDunant (talk) 13:59, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Arthur Douglas Merriman
I removed the speedy tag from this stub as George Cross recipients are highly notable. An admin then deleted the article regardless. I believe that the admin concerned has abused their editing privileges. What should I do? DuncanHill (talk) 19:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry - I thought it was only the creating editor who should not remove the speedy tag, and that other editors ARE allowed to remove the tag (that, at any rate, is what the tag says). DuncanHill (talk) 19:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Any editor can remove the tag with the exception of the original editor. If an editor removes the tag then it is an indicator that he believes the subject to be notable, or making a judgement that it does not meet the criteria. Woodym555 (talk) 19:21, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I do not know why you assumed that I was the original creator. I asked you about the admins action as you were involved as the person who added the original speedy tag, which I had legitimately (contrary to you improper suggestion on my talk page) removed. DuncanHill (talk) 19:25, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I think everyone should WP:AGF. Hammer nominated an article for deletion because he thought it did not meet the criteria. An editor then followed the instructions on the tag and removed the tag. It is a matter of differing opinions about the validity of the tag. I think Duncan made a common mistake Hammer, in thinking that the person who added the tag is the one who deleted it. Ultimately it is upto the admin to make a judgement call and she did. Woodym555 (talk) 19:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't think Hammer deleted it, I just thought it would be polite to involve him as he had placed the tag which I had removed. DuncanHill (talk) 19:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Rereading it, I can see how you think I have accused you of being malicious. That is not what I said. I said that you accused Duncan of maliciously removing the tag, ie against policy and for his own ends. I then said: It wasn't malicious because he was perfectly entitled to remove it, not being the author of the page. At no point have i accused you of acting maliciously and i apologise if that is how you have read it. I do maintain that perhaps it would be better to have a look at the article history before suggesting that someone has breached policy. That is where the problem has come from really. Woodym555 (talk) 20:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes a Dr who dabbles in bomb disposal is quite an unusual mix! Yes I understand that at time CSD can get rather busy and that miscommunication can occur on Wikipedia rather easily. That's why i prefer the human touch to scripts and bots. Just my opinion though. All sorted now and the stub has been created. Job done, kerfuffle over. Happy editing!! Woodym555 (talk) 20:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

The London Gazette is THE source for articles on George Cross winners. Back issues are not on the internet, as far as I know, but giving the date of publication of a citation is good enough by itself. I note that you were using Twinkle to remove articles. It might be useful to actually oversee its operations a little more. I was not notified of the intention to delete this article, if i had been I would have been happy to deal with any issues your automated programme had with it. Sadly I can't fire up a robot to write articles for me. Nick mallory (talk) 01:11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Billy Bonds
Thanks. I'll carry on putting in the inline citations over the next few days and then perhaps it can go for GA status. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Arena Essex
Why was it irrelevant? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.3.76 (talk) 07:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

George Cross outline page
Hi there, I've set up a skeleton for producing GC articles here. If you copy and paste the text into a GC article, then drop in the content, it will produce an article formatted something like Bennett Southwell. It will do as well for newly created or existing articles and I'll try to fit it into some of the existing ones. If you have any comments, additions or suggestions please add them to the page. I'm posting this onto the user talk pages of Nick mallory, DuncanHill, Wolvereness, RHB, Woodym555, Hammer1980,David Underdown and HeartofaDog. If any of you would like to change the skeleton, please go ahead and do so! I am fairly new to Wikipedia and have probably made some gross errors. If you want to discuss any of this (and have the rest of this group see your discussion) maybe we could discuss it on the talk page for the skeleton article? Best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown   (Talk to me)  09:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camel discography
It seems that Twinkle screwed up this AfD, so I finished it for you. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 00:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Coinflation article
See the discussion page for the notability defense. -RedBlade7 (talk) 03:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Halton schools
Short stubs have been written for all the Halton secondary school and specialist colleges in order to provide a basis for expansion as part of the WikiProject Cheshire. Please do not delete them at this stage. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I would also like to add my support to not deleting these articles. They are currently stubs, but they will be expanded.  DDStretch    (talk)  12:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

re: Nuke Dukem
Done. Spike Wilbury ♫ talk  14:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

William Winram
It is unclear why you tagged this article. Perhaps you could explain at Canadian wikipedians' notice board/discussion. Thanks. Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Roger Cloud
You left a note for me regarding the article on Roger Cloud. But the page has no note for deletion. I'm confused. Acsenray (talk) 18:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Know-all Wikipedians
Oh please please please (think of Donkey voluteering to travel with Shrek put me in that catagory! Seriously though, check out my comments on the deletion issue, and then what I have done - and origianlly meant to do - with the article. Cheers! Fergananim (talk) 18:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Team logos
Hi. I added file Unibax Toruń logo. I will add logos only these teams which articles are in en.wikipedia. I will add articles about Polish clubs soon. Cheers, Radziński (t) 18:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Image linking
Hmmm, I didn't think it was "chit chat" but okay. Anyhow, I noticed your original edit to my talk page included the brackets around the image name, which resulted in the image actually appearing on the page. In case you don't know, you can add a colon in the brackets for a link to the image, opposed to actually adding the image to the page. So, adding Image:UEM logo.png will result in Image:UEM logo.png. - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. No problem! - Rjd0060 (talk) 22:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Rongzom Mahapandita
I see you have put Rongzom Mahapandita up for speedy deletion on the grounds that he had already been deleted. Could you please refer me the discussion which resulted in his previous deletion (or explain to me how I can find this for myself). Thanks --Geronimo20 (talk) 02:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See the log file, it was speedily deleted once earlier today. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 02:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Map
If some programme is - I don't know anything about this. I create these maps writing down the number in place the x and y - on principle of "tests and mistakes" (we tell in Poland like) :) Of course, after comma can be more numbers - the position of city will be more exact. Radziński (t) 10:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

re: Dining club
This article isn't about a particular club, rather it's about a type of club, very similar to gentlemen's clubs. It certainly doesn't merit deletion. Grunners 18:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)