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Bienvenido a Wikipedia. We both have in common that our families are from Yauco and that we have Corsican blood in our veins. My grandfather was Luis Mattei. It seems that someone (way up above) placed a "warning" in regard to your image. They do this to avoid copyright violations. To fix the problem do this, go to your image Image:ColonelNegroni 1985.jpg and "click" on edit. Delete the warning and post this "tag". If I can be of any help, please do not hesitate to drop by my User page and let me know. Tony the Marine 04:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Tony:

Thanks for your kind advise. I have added the tag as you suggested. I congratulate you for all the contributions that you have made to the Wikipedia. Hector Andres Negroni

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I hope that you won't mind when I tell you that I rewrote your Bio. In Wikipedia, they consider it self-promotional when a person writes his own bio and I didn't want your bio deleted since I consider you a great Puerto Rican. Here it is :Hector Andres Negroni. I know of your work and I consider it a honor to write your story. I hope that it meets your approval. Tony the Marine 08:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

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My friend Negroni, thank you for the Maldonado image. I removed the messages which the automated "bots" posted because I took care of the situation. Now I have another request. I would like an image of Major Fernando L. Ribas-Dominicci. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 15:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC) -- Tony, send me you e-mail to hanegroni AT hotmail DOT com. (Hector Negroni, 9May08)

Negroni cocktail
Bienvenido Hector, I was wondering if you could provide a published account (in print) of the creation of the Negroni cocktail with respect to Pascal. The only references I've seen are just on blogs and minor websites. Is there a reliable *printed* source for this? If so, I would be happy to let the claim stand.

- Chromatikoma (talk) 20:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi there. You have repeatedly added the same alternative story about the origin of Negronis to that article. It's been removed several times now. I understand not everyone left you a message explaining the situation, but please don't re-add unverified content to Wikipedia. The passage you added was well-written, but its factual accuracy needs to be supported with citations to reliable sources, like books or news stories. Please let me know if I can help you formatting citations, if you have them on hand. Thanks, Steven Walling &bull; talk   04:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Attention Steve Walling: The theory that a "Count Camillo Negroni" invented the Negroni cocktail is suspect but I am willing to let it stand as a show of fairness. On the other hand, and under the same principle of fairness, you need to let our Negroni Family alternative theory that the inventor of the Negroni Cocktail is "General Pascal Olivier Count de Negroni." That is all I ask. I have written five books and over 200 historical article so I know the importance of research. However, a marketing book by a bartender (Luca Picchi) does not rise to the level of serious research. Pascal Olivier de Negroni is a reall person while "Count Camilo" is a farce. 11:50, 29 May 2014 (UTC)~Colonel (USAF Retired) Hector Andres Negroni. If you want to contact me, e-mail me at hanegroni@hotmail.com.

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Memo for SQGibbon and Denisarona, 31 May 2014 Subject: Negroni Cocktail

First of all I want to apologize for my fellow wikipedians for providing edits to the Negroni Cocktail Page that you object to. It was not my intent to provide "disruptive editing" nor to trample on the Wikipedia norms. I fully understand that the reason why I received warnings, is because I repeatedly added material, despite the objections of others. I know that Wikipedia is a collaborative enterprise, meaning that when we have disputes, we should not simply edit back and forth. I am reaching out to you to see if we can resolve this dispute. I know that Wikipedia does not know the credentials of authors, and in fact does not pay much attention to them. This is because Wikipedia relies on citations to reliable, third party sources like scientific journals, newspapers or blogs with editorial structures, books, and so on. The reason the material is being removed is because you are adding it without reference to secondary source material. With that in mind, I would like to plead my case before my fellow wikipedians.

I have great reservations regarding the person known as Count Camillo Negroni for several reasons:

1. In our family genealogical records going back to the 11th century, there no one by the name of Count Camillo (Sources: Authier, Michel et Alain Galbrun, Etat de la Noblesse Francaise Subsistance, 1940-1993, pp. 153-160; Cere, Luigi Arturo, Storia dell'illustra famiglia genovese dei Negroni, Genes, 1927; Negroni, Francois Marquis de, de Negroni de San Colombano Family Archives: Negroni, Roch Pascal Marie Cyr Marquis de, Histoire de l'Ancienne Seigneurie de San Colombano ou Capo Corso et de Capraia, Imp. Lavalloise, Laval (Mayenne), 1896, 311 pages: Pazzis, Henry de Seguins Pazzis d'Aubignam Marquis de, Genealogie de la Famille Negroni et ses Alliances, 1980, 315 page manuscript prepared as one of the requirements to become a Knight of Malta; Negroni, Hector Andres, 1938- The Negroni family : genealogical, demographic, and nobiliary study from its 11th century origins to its 20th century branches in Italy, France, and Puerto Rico Madison, AL : H.A. Negroni, [1998], 149 pages : ill., maps ; 28 cm, Library of Congress Control Number:  98119631

2. The paper back book by Luca Picchi, Sulle tracce del conte. La vera storia del cocktail «Negroni» is nothing more than a marketing pamphlet to promote visits to Mr. Picchi's bar in Florence.

3. Despite numerous requests, Mr. Picchi has nor provided our family with birth, death or genealogical information on "Count Camillo Negroni." As a result, we can only conclude that "Count Camillo is a result of Mr Picchi's fertile imagination.

On the other hand, to support our thesis, we can provide ample genealogical information on General Pascal Olivier Comte de Negroni. He was real person with real accomplishments. Tell me what you need and I will provide the information for your examination and evaluation. Additionally, there was a newspaper reference to Pascal's invention of the Negroni cocktail (Source: “Corse Matin Sunday Edition," 2 February 1980).

As an amicable resolution to this issue I recommend that we place both theories being equal in value and let the readers make up their mind.

I can also provide you with my CV if you desire.

Respectfully,

Colonel (USAF-Retired) Hector Andres NegroniHanegroni (talk) 23:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Here is the what the Corse Matin, 2 February 1980 article says about the Negroni Cocktail and its inventor:

Un cocktail corse ? Le Negroni, un des grands cocktails classiques, a-t-il été crée par un Capcorsin ? Il semble que oui. Ce serait le General Pascal de Negroni originaire de Rogliano, qui aurait eu l’idée de ce divin mélange (1/3 Gin, 1/3 Vermouth, 1/3 Campari). Cela se passait à Paris au cercle militaire des officiers de Saint-Augustin, à la veille de la Grande guerre. A votre santé avant la mitraille ! PM (Corse Matin, en date du 2 Février 1980 Sunday Edition)

This is the translation of the article:

A Corsican Cocktail? Was the Negroni, a classic cocktail, created by a Capcorsin? It seems so. This would be the General Pascal Negroni native Rogliano, who had the idea of this divine mixture (1/3 Gin 1/3 Vermouth, 1/3 Campari). This happened in Paris at the military officers' club of St. Augustine, on the eve of the Great War. Your health before the grape shot!

Note: St. Agustine refers to the Officers Club in Paris, the "Great War War" refers to World War One and "grape shot" is a play on words of a munition fired from cannons.

Hanegroni (talk) 13:22, 3 June 2014 (UTC)