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2021 United States Capitol attack
Just a note for the future: Special:Diff/1053462532 was OK, but editors tend to get unhappy when their edits are described as "vandalism", and in this case it was an effort at improving wording. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:50, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoops, incorrectly assumed the user's typos and reverting attempts to undo his edits meant it was intentional vandalism. Understood, thanks for the heads-up. --HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 01:53, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah I guess I shouldn't have worded it as an absolute; repeatedly making bad edits can still be disruptive even if they're trying to be helpful, but yeah, thanks. Enterprisey (talk!) 02:03, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Jigsaw (Australian band)
Since you proposed the merger but now believe it should be kept separate could you please remove the Merge template from the article?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:13, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's up to me, sorry. Since at least one user still is voting to merge, I think we can't remove it until the week-long period expires. The page almost definitely won't be merged, though, since almost everyone has voted Keep. --HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 23:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Update: A week's passed, so I've removed the template. Thanks again for your great edits on the page - I guess I should have looked harder for sources, haha. --HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 19:06, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your prompt action and kind words. Hint: for Australian-based articles try Trove at National Library of Australia.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:07, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!
I don't actually use the Polandball wiki lol. Thanks for the heads-up anyway, I guess. --HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 17:33, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Youre welcome, lets chat a little while — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junkie257 (talk • contribs)
 * I’m not opposed to discussion, but wasn’t it another user who posted that initial message on my wall? I’m a little confused. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 19:06, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry...
I misread completely the article: Talk (Yes album) Sorry for any inconvenience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ITPastor (talk • contribs) 15:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)


 * No problem, I can totally see how someone could make that mistake. That sentence in the original article is structured kinda weirdly. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 17:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard
Hi, I've opened a discussion regarding Talk:Slava Ukraini at Dispute resolution noticeboard, thanks! Manyareasexpert (talk) 16:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Dates
Hallo, When you translate an article like Andrzej Drawicz, please remember to unlink dates which aren't linked in en.wiki. Thanks. Pam D  06:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Oops, thanks! I’ll make sure to do that next time. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

hey hey
Need your help. I saw you were contributing into this articel: Russian fascism (ideology). I found it today to be absent and redirected into the general disamb page. I restored your version and just let you know. If you have some spare time, please join the discussion. I will also start an investigation on Admins noticeboard. Best wishes --IgorTurzh (talk) 10:27, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Converting redirects to dab pages
Hello. I see that you recently converted the page Battle of Konotop from a redirect to Battle of Konotop (1659) into a disambiguation page. A consequence of such a conversion is that all links that previously used the redirect now erroneously point to the dab page. In this case, there were a fair number of incoming links because Battle of Konotop (1659) had existed at the title Battle of Konotop for a long time before it was moved earlier this month. I have fixed these incoming links, but in the future it would be appreciated if you cleaned them up yourself after converting the redirect. Thank you. Ruбlov (talk • contribs) 13:20, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up, I didn't even think of that. I'll make sure to do that next time. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 13:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Can the discussion be closed?
Regarding "Proposed merge of Battle of Azovstal into Siege of Mariupol"

It looks like there is a strong majority majority opinion. Thanks,   Chesapeake77 >>> ♥ Truth  13:24, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Not sure. There is still some dissent, and I generally try to err on the side of caution, so I would get an uninvolved editor to do that. Maybe a closure request should be done? Not familiar enough with WP guidelines to say for sure. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Generally the standard is the majority opinion and not complete unanimity. Respectfully,   Chesapeake77 >>> ♥ Truth  22:34, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have merged the article per consensus. Thanks. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 18:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That was fast, I didn’t even see the discussion was closed before you sent this message, lol. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 18:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Honored to be helping. I should've started a new discussion about the closed discussion in the talk page, rather than just opening the closed discussion again. Kind regards. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 19:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Inquérito


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Your submission at Articles for creation: Inquérito (July 7)
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Klub Stodoła moved to draftspace
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Halina Frąckowiak albums


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hromadas of Vinnytsia Oblast


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Concern regarding Draft:Inquérito
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Your draft article, Draft:Inquérito


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Soledar
Sorry. Complete cock up on my part! Thanks for sorting! Lukewarmbeer (talk) 14:43, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

No problem! HappyWith (talk) 15:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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April 2023
It looks like your name changes have all gone through. Do you plan to do all of the Timeline article moves along with the main article updates sometime in the coming days? I've rarely seen someone get 4 name changes to go through at one time with consensus. ErnestKrause (talk) 16:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Haven't the timeline articles all already been moved? HappyWith (talk) 16:30, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking that after your success, that all of the redirects in the main article have still to be changed over (all the 'further information', 'see also', etc. links). Did you get them all? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:05, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I did, but it wouldn’t hurt to check again. There may also be links that need to be changed in some templates. HappyWith (talk) 15:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Confirmed; I'm thinking its up to date now. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:27, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!
Thanks for your effort to establish a good overview for the world in the heated beginnings of this incursion!

Zerbrxsler (talk) 21:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC) 


 * Thanks! I've been glued to the news about the incursion since it started, and I've been channeling my interest into that page. Crazy times we are living in. HappyWith (talk) 21:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

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A request
Hello colleague. I found you among the editors of an article about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. I have a request for you. There is an article Forced assimilation. I added information about Azerbaijan, but in the same section there is a ridiculous mention of Ukraine and Latvia. With regard to Ukraine, there is a statement that "Ukraine's neighbors have a right to criticize a new Ukrainian law banning schools from teaching in minority languages beyond primary school level, a leading European rights watchdog said". For me, as an Armenian, but a current resident of Ukraine, now this claim sounds out of place in the article. The same is true for Latvia. Can we just remove these paragraphs? They are not even close to what happened to the peoples in Azerbaijan, and especially to what Russia is doing now. With respect, colleague. Smpad (talk) 16:20, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Recent Reverted Edit
Hello, I honestly have no idea what happened with my recent edit on Wagner Group Rebellion. The edit that I made and pressed publish on changed "opened fire" to "open fire", and I'm not sure how the image got deleted instead.

Thank you for your quick revert, and sorry for any issues I may have caused. Knotimpressed (talk) 21:13, 26 June 2023 (UTC)


 * All good, I think I’ve made mistakes like that before. HappyWith (talk) 21:26, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Ruscism for deletion
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Battle of Dvorichna
OK for link fixes, but it's wrong that you didn't draft the Battle of Dvorichna article because the battle is outside of the Battle of Svatove-Kreminna Line and is on the right side of the Oskil River where Russian troops made their first successful landing on June 1st, and that they did not penetrate from there, but from July 17 they carried out three more landings in the direction of Kupjan. The Svatove-Kreminna line is bursting at all seams and there is no Ukrainian counter-offensive in that direction, but since June 19 there has been a Russian counter-offensive, and since the beginning of July, Ukrainian troops have only been retreating while Russian forces are advancing, in contrast to the sectors of Bakhmut, South Donetsk, Kherson-Dnieper sector and partly the Zaporizhia direction where the Ukrainians have success. Especially Bakhmut and Novoselovka. Baba Mica (talk) 14:08, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I dunno what you’re talking about. It wasn’t my sole decision to merge the article, it was the result of the deletion discussion. Iirc there wasn’t even much well-sourced material to merge anyway. HappyWith (talk) 15:38, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:Battle of Dvorichna
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Russian offensive on the Svatove-Kreminna (Masyutovka-Torske) Line
I think it is clear even to sparrows on their heads that the Ukrainian side has only recorded defeat since the beginning of the general counter-offensive on the northeastern sector of the Svatove-Kreminna line, defeat after defeat, especially since June 19 or perhaps July 2. If there was any progress from the Ukrainian side, it was only in the first fifteen days from June 4 to 19. Since June 19, Russian forces have launched a counterattack, and since July 2, the Ukrainians have been non-stop defending and retreating. So, from July 11, 15 or 17, the Svatove-Kreminna line began to collapse and burst at the seams, and therefore it is necessary to find a suitable term for the current RUSSIAN COUNTER-ATTACK, which is particularly strong in the direction of Kupiansk from June 1 and 19, and since July 2, it has not been stopped. On July 11, Russian forces broke through the strong Ukrainian defense line near the city of Torske in the direction of Lyman, but the Ukrainians launched successful counterattacks on the night of the 26th/27th. July and expelled Russian troops from the northeastern parts of the city of Torska. From June 19 or from July 2, there are no longer positional but active and heavy ground, artillery, air and infantry battles on that entire line of defense. The Svatove-Kreminna line is a line of defense, but a strong Russian line of defense. A strong Ukrainian line of defense is also in the north-south direction "Masyutovka-Torske line". So it is necessary to open a new article and devote yourself to the Russian counter-offensive in a separate article "Battle on Masyutovka–Torske line". – Baba Mica (talk) 15:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Are there sources who treat this as a separate engagement, or is this your own analysis? HappyWith (talk) 15:39, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * To be honest and not lie to you, this is my analysis of the period from June 1, when Russian troops made a successful landing on the right bank across the Oskil River, and especially from June 19, when Russian troops began an offensive in the direction of Kupyansk, on July 17, in order to successfully break through the Ukrainian solid line of defense in several places, in three more places they carried out successful landings across the Oskil River, which is outside the village of Svatovo-Kreminna line. Baba Mica (talk) 23:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * So yeah. We can’t really make a page based off of one users analysis, and if we do create it, it’ll probably get deleted like a lot of other articles about minor battles have been recently. I’d wait until there is better coverage, and just incorporate the info into the most relevant article for now, like Battle of Donbas or Svatove-Kreminna. HappyWith (talk) 01:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, that's why I'm addressing you as a relevant user, and you should contact other users who are interested in the current situation on the Ukrainian battlefield to reach a consensus by agreeing on the establishment of a new major article "Battle on Masyutovka–Torske line (Ukrainian line of defense of Lyman, Izyum, Kupyansk and Kharkiv from the east). The battle for the Svatove-Kreminna line is the Russian line of defense of the Luhansk Oblast, which they occupied last summer 100%. Baba Mica (talk) 12:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I would actually be among the users against the creation of that page. We don’t need it yet. Incorporate the info into existing pages for now until it becomes big enough for a split. HappyWith (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

New battles in the southern and northern sectors.
The Battle of Orihiv ended definitively with a Ukrainian victory on June 11 when the Russians were definitively pushed back from the city by more than 10 kilometers. I propose to open voting in the square for new articles about new important battles for important places in the southern and northern sectors. I am especially thinking of the southern sector, where the Ukrainian sagas in the Zaporizhia direction surrounded the places of Robotyne and in the Novosilovskoe direction, where they achieved greater success a long time ago and took the place of Staromaiors'ka at the end of July and surrounded the village of Urozhaine. Here are my suggestions for new articles:


 * Battle of Robotyne (August 9, 2023 – Present)
 * Battle of Staromaiors'ka and Urozhaina (July 16, 2023 – present)

If it is confirmed that Sinkivka fell this morning on August 10, then the Russian side definitely won the Battle of Svatova-Kreminna line and it is necessary to form a new article:

Baba Mica (talk) 15:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Battle of Masyutovka–Torske line (July 2, 2023 – present).


 * The Zaporizhzhia battles are covered totally fine in 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive. If you want to make an article covering those battles, there was already consensus to create a page called "Zaporizhzhia campaign" that covers all of them, so check out that discussion, which I think was at Talk:Battle of Huliaipole. We don't need a separate article for every little subsector of the frontline, especially since there are no good sources that define them as they're own thing. HappyWith (talk) 16:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. I agree. But the northern sector on the left side of the Oskil and Zherebec rivers should also be covered because it became so obvious that the Ukrainian army suffered a defeat in the Battle of Svatove-Kremina line with the fall of Sinkivka. My proposal is to form two new articles, but not to touch the Battle of Orihiv and the Battle of Hulaipolie, because two months ago the front was pushed back 20 km from Orihiv, with which the Ukrainians achieved a kind of victory, and near Hulaipole, the Russian infantry easily bombarded the surface of the city and it has not yet been repulsed or launched an infantry assault on the city, but the battle continues in the southern and southeastern parts of the city. If the Ukrainians succeed at Hulaipole in the same way as Orihiv, then they will have won a small and important victory. To return to the north direction. The Ukrainians formed an extremely strong line of defense from Masyutovka in the north to Torske in the south, thus defending further Russian penetrations across the Oskil and Zherebec rivers to the west (Kupiansk, Izyum and Kharkiv). There should also be opened the article Battle of Masyutovka-Torsky line in a similar way as your idea "Zaporizhzhia campaign" in the south. Baba Mica (talk) 17:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see what the issue is with just including the stuff near Svatove-Kreminna in the Svatove-Kreminna article. I think the ISW still describes all those events you talk about as taking place on "the Svatove-Kreminna line" or "the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line". HappyWith (talk) 17:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Because the Ukrainian forces were pushed back to the west of the city of Svatove and reached the river Oskil, and in some places the Russian forces moved to the other bank of that river. As far as the Zaporizhia campaign is concerned, the battles are fought but exclusively around certain places, while on the rest of the front there are only positional battles. I have already listed certain places. How to interpret the end of the battle for Svatove-Kreminna line?
 * 1. The fall of Sinkovka?
 * 2. The fall of Torska?
 * 3. The fall of all towns and villages to the left of the Oskil River?
 * The thing is that the city of Kupiansk is much further north than the city of Svatove and is not essentially on that line at all, because the Russian defense line of Svatove-Kreminna is quite far to the east and south of Kupiansk and Masyutovka. To me, this now looks more like the battle of Kupiansk-Torske line than the battle of Svatova-Kreminna line, since the Russians have been on the offensive since June 19. Baba Mica (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * We shouldn’t interpret it at all. Wait for other sources to provide analysis. Wikipedia doesnt lead, it follows what reliable sources have already said. I’ve never seen the phrase “Kupiansk-Torske line” or “Masiutivka-Torske line” anywhere besides this talk page. HappyWith (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems that the Svatove-Kreminna line is totally falling apart while the two of us argue about this topic. Ukrainian General Oleksandr Sirsky ordered all Ukrainian forces to withdraw from the part of Kharkiv Oblast to the left of the Oskil River, leaving room for the reconstruction of the Battle of Dvorichna and nothing else on the northern front. Evacuation was literally ordered from the areas of Kupiansk, Svatove-Kreminna, Yampolivka, etc. It closely resembles the tactics of the withdrawal of Russian forces from the Kherson Oblast last November on the orders of Sergei Surovikin. Around the place of Dvorichna, I expect a new strong Ukrainian line of defense if the Ukrainian forces really suddenly retreat to the left bank of the Oskil River. Things happen very quickly not from day to day or hour to hour but literally minute to minute. I agree with you. I would not make new articles on the northern front until things crystallize. Baba Mica (talk) 19:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The evacuation ordered in the Kupiansk area was a civilian evacuation, but yes, it does seem like something is going down. Let's wait and see where the dust settles. HappyWith (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Battle of Krasnohorivka
I am absolutely against putting Krasnohorivka in the context of the Battle of Avdiivka or the Battles of the Donetsk suburbs. First of all, Krasnohorivka is an extremely strong Ukrainian fortress from where Donetsk has been targeted for eight years and is just as important as Avdiivka, Marinka, Pisky and the aforementioned suburbs of Donetsk. However, unlike Avdiivka, Pervomaiskoe, Marinka and Piski, there is a very important difference. Krasnohorivka is a place quite far from Donetsk, unlike the other mentioned places, and it is also a very strong fortress. I cannot understand that someone just started writing an article and did not continue even though there is a handful of information about the fighting around that place since July 18. the article is very poorly written and needs immediate correction. — Baba Mica (talk) 16:31, 10 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Then take it to Deletion review. Don’t just quietly revert against consensus. HappyWith (talk) 16:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. I will make a draft, since I don't have time to edit on Wikipedia today, but I need to have a draft if I don't manage to complete the article by the deadline. But I hope that tomorrow I will have more time to devote myself to the subject of Krasnohorivka. Baba Mica (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

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New article (2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive - South Front)
I've had enough of everything. I am creating two new articles and period. The first will be the Battle of Staromaiors'ka and Urozhaine, and that article should not be included in the Zaporizhia campaign, because those two places are located in the Novoselkovskiy region, which is part of the Donetsk Oblast, and therefore requires a separate article. The second article will be called the Zaporizhzhia campaign which will also be a sub-article of the current big article 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive and will include all the current heavy fighting from the place of Kam'yans'ke in the west to the place of Pryiutne in the east. First I will create a draft for new articles. Baba Mica (talk) 14:38, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * And of course, I need your help and the help of other members.Baba Mica (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I really wouldn’t do that without consulting the larger editor community at the talk page of Russian invasion of Ukraine or 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive. If you do not get consensus first, there is a pretty good chance that any new articles will be deleted and your work will be for nothing. HappyWith (talk) 14:43, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Give me the link to the talk page. Baba Mica (talk) 14:49, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Talk:Russian invasion of Ukraine. HappyWith (talk) 14:51, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Super. Baba Mica (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks
Hi, just wanted to say thank you for your efforts in the Ukraine invasion topic area. It's greatly satisfying to me to see how all the red links at the current and important topic of the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive eventually get an article. It is the clear definition of a collaborative project to me. Thanks for your efforts. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Totally! That's basically the reason I've been doing it - it's satisfying filling in all the gaps. The histories of a lot of the villages are also surprisingly interesting, I've found. HappyWith (talk) 03:50, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Kuzminovka
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 * I was actually looking at that reports page myself, I had been wondering why they were all just villages starting with "K". Thanks for the links! HappyWith (talk) 17:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Reporting for the whole alphabet at once overloads the database server: it times out and produces no results. I've been running each initial separately. Certes (talk) 17:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Ukrainian hromada articles
Hey HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith, I wanted to say thanks for improving the hromada articles I've made and connecting them to their wikidata items! I appreciate it tremendously and it really helps! Just wanted you to know though in case it helps: I've left off the links from the articles I've been making because I'm planning on going back later (after I finish making the rest of the hromadas), and adding in the links & ILLs for each page. It will definitely be a lot of work though, and it will take a while to finish the other hromadas, so your help means a lot. With a lot of the names too, I was using the chrome translate extension on two versions of the lists (for each hromada) and tried to use my best reasoning as to which transliteration would be the commonly used & accepted one. It looks like you know more about Ukrainian place names than me but in case it helps, I thought that this map (linked here) might help. The settlement transliterations should be mostly accurate although some of the names are outdated. Many thanks again for all the help and definitely let me know if I ever make a mistake with anything or if you have any ideas of how the pages could be improved.

Best, Dan the Animator 22:12, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem! I've been trying to do the same thing myself, creating articles for all the hromadas and such. I get why you leave them in a kinda rough state initially, I know from experience that it takes a ton of time to find the right titles and links for every settlement. It's crazy to see how after only a few days, there are entire templates that used to be full of red links that are now almost completely blue because of your editing. Really awesome work.
 * That map is useful, yeah. The ISW uses a mostly identical transliteration system to Wikipedia, with the main exception that they always transliterate "Я" as "ya", whereas - if I understand correctly - Wikipedia uses "ia" unless the "Я" comes at the beginning of a word. ex: Kupiansk vs Kupyansk. HappyWith (talk) 22:17, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dantheanimator Oh, I just remembered one thing: For some reason, your articles aren't connected to the Wikidata terms, and so they don't automatically have the convenient interwiki links appear at the bottom of the page. What method are you using to translate articles? I use the Special:ContentTranslation tool, which automatically translates links to pages that exist on both wikis and makes the wikidata connections. HappyWith (talk) 22:20, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks!!! :) About the ISW map I never realized it was mostly the same as Wikipedia's. Many thanks for letting me know though so I won't rely on it. About the Wikidata items, I'm not sure exactly how to connect the articles to their items (or to make new items if the articles don't have them). I've been using Google Chrome's translate feature (which pops up as a Google translate icon to the right of the browser url) to translate the lists & individual pages of the hromadas on the Ukrainian gov. website and also the Ukrainian language wiki articles for the hromadas (usually use the Ukrainian-language wiki templates to navigate between the hromadas but for the Zaporizhzhia template, which was semi-broken, I also used this list). For both, Google translates most of the words on the webpage from Ukrainian to English and I just copy & paste and modify when needed (the translation of the Ukrainian wiki articles tends to be less accurate than the translation of the government website so whenever I have doubts of any of the name translations, I vet it through the gov website translation and a google translate of the literal meaning of the settlement (almost all of the inaccuracies come from Google translating a settlement name into a word rather than a place name, which happens once/twice every 10 articles about). I also copy-paste the content from previous similar hromada articles I made so I don't have to retype the hromada template/other stuff for every new page I make. Hopefully there's a way to connect the wikidata item automatically/easily for every new page but I'm not sure how that would work.
 * Most of the missing data links should be fixed by volunteers scanning new pages.
 * I just copy & paste and modify when needed
 * Welp, that's going to be a bit slower to clean up. You're supposed to put a note in your edit summary marking the fact that it's a translation and crediting the original authors, otherwise it technically breaks the WP copyright policy. Check the "license requirements" section at Help:Translation for more info on that. There's so many pages that I don't think anyone would expect you to go back and place the "This article was translated from ..." template on every talk page in the next 24 hours, but it would be a good idea to at least start doing that. HappyWith (talk) 22:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well the article itself isn't a translation: it's only the names of the settlements themselves that I translate (and I suppose, I also translate to understand what settlements are which type and to know which number on the Ukrainian gov. website is the pop. & area). Should I be adding the translation accreditation in my edit summaries for cases where translation isn't the source of the article text? (I don't know if the names of the settlements counts since they're not words but names)
 * Oh, well, I guess that wouldn't count, then. I had assumed you were translating each sentence. HappyWith (talk) 22:56, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yup, no worries. Google translate's good but not that good. I made the first few hromada articles mostly on my own with the templates copied off and modified from one of the hromada articles in the Bakhmut raion. After that, I've been deriving all the new articles from those first few (only the info changes but the text and structure largely stays the same). With the settlements, I also go through them individually to make sure their translations are reasonable but its tough to know which variant of spelling is used for which settlement (especially for names like Kupiansk or Vysoke that switch between the y and i interchangeably). Any tips to make sure I'm putting in the right transliteration of the name would definitely help (especially also for cases where "g" and "h" are used interchangeably like in Zeleni Hai vs. Zeleni Gai). I will go back eventually and fix each one manually so none of the pages are final products but it definitely is good to know before I repeat any mistakes hundreds of times.
 * Wikipedia basically always uses the "h" and never uses a "g", except for in some historical names like "Krivoy Rog" that get used in World War II contexts. Something that's helped me a ton in doing transliterations is this tool: https://translit.cc/ua/ which does them basically identically to WP except for some weirdness with i/y/j. If you see "ji" or "ij" from this tool, I think that basically always equates to Wiki's "yi", as in Krasnyi Lyman. HappyWith (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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Regarding my recent edits
None of my edits that I've made is inaccurate or controversial. I'm just putting information that the reader might find useful and which will allow them to get an accurate understanding of the cities control status. Although a lot of the cities that Russia currently occupies are officially recognized as part of Ukraine which will make them (De jure) owners, as previously stated Russia has control of these cities firmly and especially having administration control of it so they're currently (de facto) owners especially since the consider the city part of Russia now since they officially annexed the regions many of the cities are part of. The consensus which disallow doing this seems to have been very biased which is obvious due to the language use and the double standards as in other wars cities that falls to an occupying force is usually consider De facto part of them so why can't the same be use in the War in Ukraine. I strongly believe in my own opinion that a lot decision being made by some editors are very personal based instead of actually using the current information which is unfortunate because this of course affects they integrity of many of the articles evolving the war in Ukraine. If we do have to revisit the consensus so we can remove the decision that prohibits doing what I'm doing I hope we could do it by using information instead of personal opinions LegendaryChristopher (talk) 03:52, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, you can feel free to strongly believe in that and call widely established consensus "very biased" all you want, but I really doubt this will work out with the changes you want. HappyWith (talk) 04:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @LegendaryChristopher Okay, basically, I could reiterate the arguments from the RfC, but long story short: it is true that consensus can change, but you need to discuss this first, and actually argue this and convince people. Consensus doesn't magically disappear because you think it wasn't accurate. Do those steps first, then you can happily make these changes and the editing community will support you. This is really WP:NOTGETTINGIT behavior to do this months after the RfC's conclusion while completely ignoring the disagreement you see at every talk page you propose this change on. HappyWith (talk) 04:35, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * To be honest, there is no way to have a civil and fair discussion over any changes. As I said before and many times already there are specific editors who have a bias towards one side and will not use logic and information to make any decisions. Unfortunately, this why changes need to be made the way I have been doing it. I been providing my source when needed to back up any edits I make and yet somehow I gets rejected because a editors doesn't agree with wording in the source I provide. In short, accurate information should decide changes not the majority. LegendaryChristopher (talk) 06:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * there is no way to have a civil and fair discussion over any changes [...] Unfortunately, this why changes need to be made the way I have been doing it.
 * I genuinely don't mean to be rude, but this kind of statement could probably be used as grounds for a ban by an admin right now. It's really rejecting the whole premise of the website of being built on consensus and discussion. HappyWith (talk) 06:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What discussion? As I said before discussions usually become less about what is right and more of what someone personal opinions are, which is not good when making changes because everyone is going to have a personal bias. I try to discuss any changes but it always becomes a debate instead of an acutal logic discussion with information backing any claim. I will for the time limit my edits since my status at the moment doesn't grant me permission to edit certain articles but every editor should do more in making sure personal biasness doesn't decide what is allowed and what isn't. LegendaryChristopher (talk) 07:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This is ridiculous. You are the one unilaterally enacting your own personal vision of what articles should look like with complete disregard for messing up the metadata of articles and for the logical arguments made in respectful discussions. This doesn't give me much hope for your disruptive behavior changing. HappyWith (talk) 07:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You received the alert about WP:RUSUKR on your talk page. You are not extended-confirmed so you cannot make such edits regardless if they are accurate or not until you reach 500 edits. Mellk (talk) 05:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, basically you are limited who can edit any articles related to the War in Ukraine because of the issue with certain users being disruptive. Understandable, but when I try to request an edit change and provide source which is acceptable by Wikipedia it still gets rejected. If you going to limit who can edit than also limit who has the right to reject a edit request. LegendaryChristopher (talk) 06:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If you actually look at the grounds on which your request is rejected and engage with other editors in a respectful way, then you will have a chance of getting what you want. HappyWith (talk) 07:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Your edit request was not done because your proposed change needs consensus first. Start a talk page discussion and get consensus for this. Mellk (talk) 07:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Kyiv offensive and Northeastern Ukraine campaign
Hello, I've thought for a while that Kyiv offensive (2022) and Northeastern Ukraine campaign should be merged into one single article. Their aim was clear: Kyiv, and they both ended in early April (the Northeastern Ukraine campaign article randomly includes Kharkiv Oblast even though all actions there had a southward direction towards Donbas). I've not gathered enough energy to propose this, so considering the great effort you've put into Battle of Donbas (2022) to finally define its scope, also significantly rewritting it, I thought you could be the most appropriate person to do this. I will not blame you if you don't feel like this though, since I am basically telling you I am too lazy to do it myself. However, if you decided to go through it, I'd support you and help you on the merger discussion. I frankly think the proposal would be successful without much problem, Northeastern Ukraine campaign is anyways an article in a pretty bad state, it's an abandoned timeline-style article. And this a proposal with an indefinite time frame, I don't want you to feel pressured either, it's okay if you tell me "I'm not feeling like it". Just thought it is a proposal that could interest you. Regards and thank you in any case for your efforts. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 22:42, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at it, but honestly, I don't know that much about that part of the war - I only started paying attention to specific day-by-day stuff around the time of the fall of Soledar in early 2023. HappyWith (talk) 22:47, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, I looked at it and I see what you mean. I honestly forgot that Chernihiv and Sumy oblasts were that far north - that makes a lot more sense given what you're saying. My first instinct would be to merge the Chernihiv/Sumy stuff into the Kyiv offensive (they're literally not in northeastern Ukraine, they're just straight-up north) and to basically delete the Kharkiv stuff since I am 99% sure it's already covered in other articles. The northeast campaign article is actually a bit shorter than it seems, because there's a million day-by-day headers with like a sentence each inside. I'll start by getting rid of those and consolidating the article to make it easier to tell what's actually in it, then re-assess if my first proposal makes sense. HappyWith (talk) 22:54, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I've followed news about Ukraine since the March 2021 build-up, and daily since 24 February 2022. To give you context of both what happened and on how we treat it in Wikipedia:
 * Russia crossed the Belarusian-Ukrainian border directly north of Kyiv, took Chornobyl, tried to land at Hostomel in Antonov Airport but also at Vasylkiv, fierce battles took place in Bucha, Irpin, Moshchun, Makariv and (I didn't rememeber this one) Ivankiv. From Belarus did Russia also directly attack Slavutych and Chernihiv. From the Russian mainland, Russia left several big towns behind, most notably Shostka with 71,966 people in 2022 right next to the border, and went straight in the direction to Kyiv. Thus Russian forces attacked Brovary from the Russian mainland (this one is to the east of Kyiv and not to the west) yet its battle article is included as part of the Kyiv offensive instead of the Northeastern Ukraine one, proof of the arbitrariness with which these two campaigns are divided. Until now I've only mentioned localities with battle articles, except Shostka.
 * Other localities attacked from the Russian mainland with battle articles included in the "Northeastern Ukraine campaign" are Hlukhiv (doubtful notability), Konotop, Trostianets, Lebedyn, Okhtyrka (in my opinion you can see by looking at DeepStateMap for example that they're part of a Kyiv-directed Russian advance), Sumy (basically the same, as Russia did not put too much effort into taking the city), Romny (proposed for deletion) and Kharkiv (should be included into the Eastern Ukraine campaign instead in my opinion). You can see the list of these battle articles in both the navbox and the campaignbox about the invasion. Other than Kharkiv I've seen the initial Russian advance into northern Ukraine simplified by Western media as Russia confidently advancing towards Kyiv leaving its supply lines undefended from the read (imo Shostka is the exponent of this), another strong point for merging.
 * I'd argue however that since a merge would significantly expand the geographical scope of the Kyiv offensive article, now including articles of heavy battles in localities that were technically not necessary for rushing into Kyiv (Chernihiv, Slavutych, maybe Sumy), maybe a different title could be appropriate. Possibly Northern Ukraine campaign. I don't feel too strongly about this though. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 23:21, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Super Dromaeosaurus I've performed the merge. It was a bit of a sloppy job, so there is going to be a bunch of stuff to clean up. There's some messy pastes in the target articles, and there wasn't actually consensus of what to do with the original page or where to redirect it, so I made it a disambig page for the time being. HappyWith (talk) 23:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I think we could just redirect it to the Northern Ukraine campaign article. It has always been Wikipedia WP:OR. As for the merged information, I think a chronological order with a renaming of the subsections could be the easiest way to integrate it. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 08:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I guess that could work too. Also: Battle of Romny was closed a week ago with consensus to merge into the Northeast campaign - …but now that article no longer exists. Do we need to do a separate discussion, or can we just use common sense and merge it to Northern Ukraine campaign? HappyWith (talk) 18:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The most important thing to take from that discussion is that the article is not notable enough and that it should be merged into another one. That still stands true now that the target article has also been merged. I think nobody would complain if it was merged into the Northern Ukraine campaign article. It is indeed common sense. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:22, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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70th Motorized Rifle Division
You have recently set up a divert to the 42nd Guards Motor Rifle Division which contains the 70th MR Regiment. The 70th MR Division is a new Division set up in 2023 and surely needs it own page. Can you delete the divert please. Kind regards Ânes-pur-sàng (talk) 10:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You can just edit the redirect yourself and turn it into an article, if that’s what you’re trying to do. HappyWith (talk) 15:15, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Bilohorivka
Bilohirivka is part of the Donetsk Oblast and has nothing to do with the Luhansk campaign, which is on the left side of the Donetsk River. Stop creating a circus and desecrating existing articles. Bilohirivka is a strategic military point and deserves a separate article, and you or someone else stuffed some articles into last year's Ukrainian Kharkiv counter-offensive articles that have nothing to do with that brief Ukrainian counter-offensive, e.g. The Battle of Vuhledar and the Ukrainian rocket attack on Makeevka on New Year's Eve. What do Vuhledar and Makeevka have to do with Kharkiv? — Baba Mica (talk) 11:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Bilohorivka is literally in Luhansk Oblast. The name of the article is Bilohorivka, Luhansk Oblast. I have no idea what you are talking about, but please stop using personal attacks against me. HappyWith (talk) 16:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Stepne rural hromada
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70th Motorized Rifle Division => 42nd
Hi, I have seen that you created the redirect from 70th Motorized Rifle Division to 42nd Guards Motor Rifle Division- why is this? According to Order of battle for the Russian invasion of Ukraine both divisions seem to exist separately. Best wishes, SEM (talk) 10:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


 * This was a while ago, but I think the article for the 42th itself lists the 70th as being subordinate - "...three of its Motor Rifle Regiments (70th, 71st, and 291st)." Feel free to make it into its own page or delete the redirect if that's not actually true. HappyWith (talk) 15:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, but that's the 70th Motor Rifle Regiment, no? The Division is credited on the OOB with the 24th and 28th Motor Rifle Regiments. Unfortunately I don't have enough material to write the article - I actually stumbled upon it when I wanted to read more about the 70th Division :-) SEM (talk) 18:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Borscht
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:yellow; border-width:5px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> I just got a Wikipedia alert on the review of the Wikipedia article Ukraine Salvation Committee and I thought that I had written it in the past.... But it turned out that I had only created the page as a re-direct and that you are the true creator of the page. It turned out great and I also found out that you have been creating lots of quality Ukrainian-related content on English Wikipedia lately. As a thanks here is a plate of borscht for you Thanks again! —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  19:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * PS I did create and added lots of information to People's Committee to Protect Ukraine (back in the days) that was against the same Mykola Azarov who is now in this Ukraine Salvation Committee that turned out to be more "hysterical and hopeless" then People's Committee to Protect Ukraine.... —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  19:20, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The page is a bit of a structural mess, but I thought it was a surprising hole in WP's coverage that we didn't have a page on the group so I wanted to translated it quick.
 * There really are a lot of groups with names that are variations on "Ukrainian Committee" all from the same time period, jeez. HappyWith (talk) 22:39, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah I remember that time period being very "Ukrainian Committee"-ish too. Although this time period (as I remember it) was (also) filled with various pro-russian "Ukrainian Committee"'s (for example "Ukrainian Choice"). I think that that type of pro-russian political way of doing things will not come back to Ukraine. Although time will tell. —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  17:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

It could be that I was wrong since this Second Ukraine-thing happened.... —  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  19:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Because there are many other settlements in the country named Stepove. HappyWith (talk) 17:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
Well, it is finally time for a logged warning, and if you continue disruption like this further actions will be taken. This is not the first time you are trying to do something on Wikipedia, specifically in the topic of Eastern Europe which is under discretionary sanctions, without really having the knowledge of the subject area. I used to address you at the corresponding talk pages, but things are really not getting better. Ymblanter (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * What? How is that disruption? It’s a disambig page with no blue links, I thought those were eligible. HappyWith (talk) 20:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You really have to be looking at this in the most conspiratorial way to not WP:AGF here. Wasn't it only earlier this month that the policy was changed to not include SIA anyway? HappyWith (talk) 20:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If the article existed since 2013 probably it was a good reason why it did. You obviously did not care. To be honest, I do not even see how you could answer anything except for "I am sorry, I will be more careful in the future", but apparently you managed to find a way to double down. Ymblanter (talk) 20:44, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * And WP:SIA was last changed in 2019, other than minor fixes and vandalism / vandalism reverts. Ymblanter (talk) 20:47, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It was obviously a simple misreading of a guideline on a tiny article that didn't do any actual harm since an admin just corrected me and removed the template. I've seen plenty of established users, including admins, make similar mistakes regarding disambig pages in this very same topic area. I'm sorry I messed up, but I don't agree with your characterization at all. The age of the article is completely irrelevant. HappyWith (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This is not the first time you have seriously screwed up, and, I am afraid, with this attitude, not the last one. Ymblanter (talk) 21:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Are there other specific incidents you have in mind? If I'm really messing up habitually, I do want to change that. HappyWith (talk) 21:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I ask because I genuinely don't know what else you're referring to. HappyWith (talk) 21:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Talk:Administrative divisions of Donetsk Oblast? Removal of Russian names of Ukrainian localities where Russian is predominant language? Other stuff I would need to search for. Ymblanter (talk) 11:19, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I've only removed Russian names where there's been no evidence for a place being a Russophone settlement, IIRC. This is just disagreements over content, IMO. HappyWith (talk) 17:17, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, next time I see smth I will bring it here in the form of a warning. Ymblanter (talk) 17:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 👍 HappyWith (talk) 18:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Going further: You added this information yourself. Either you added it without having any source, and then at best you violated WP:V, or you had a source, and then you should be able to add it yourself.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That is not what vandalism is. There obviously is a source, but I just didn’t have the time to put it in bc I didn’t have it on hand at the time, so I put the tag there to remind myself/others in the meantime. HappyWith (talk) 14:46, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, I didn’t even remember I was the one who added the text - that was months ago. HappyWith (talk) 14:48, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Introducing false information into the text of an article --Ymblanter (talk) 20:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Crud, I really thought that was the right village. Now that I look at the article, it does say "the Ostrogoz region". Sorry, should have translated the source more carefully. In my defense, other editors made the same mistake - if you look at the original version of 2 January 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine (which is translated from ukwiki), it linked to the incorrect village as well. I think that's where I got the erroneous info from in the first place. The English sources didn't specify the district, IIRC. HappyWith (talk) 21:14, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Another barnstar for you!

 * The creation of this article filled another hole in WP's coverage . Mind you that the law itself will make a lot of Ukrainian toponomy in Ukraine get a different name.... I found out today that a rather long list in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast alone (including I think "Dnipropetrovsk Oblast" itself will be an illegal name in February 2024...). I presume this list will be longer for Kharkiv Oblast since following 1991 derussianization was even a lower priority there then in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast (that is a calculated guess). And of course I now only mention two Ukrainian Oblasts of the 24... That is something to keep in mind and of course it would have been better if they had changed the toponomy names long before Wikipedia started, so we could have been sparred this work.... —  Yulia Romero  •  Talk to me!  17:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Dnipropetrovsk Oblast and Kirovohrad Oblast are illegal names under 2015 Decommunization laws even. The Constitutional Court decided on the new names a long time ago (Sicheslav Oblast and Kropyvnytskyi Oblast respectively), but the changes still haven't been implemented because renaming oblasts requires editing the Constitution, which cannot be done while Martial Law is in effect. No idea why they haven't renamed these in the period of 2015-2022 though. Shwabb1 (talk) 05:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

+ Happy new year (with lots of work ahead  —  Yulia Romero  •  Talk to me!  17:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks! HappyWith (talk) 18:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Convert
Would you mind avoiding and writing  instead. The saving in the amount of typing is inconsequential so conv has no benefit. The downside is that it causes confusion for other editors who know what convert is (or at least, could guess), but who may not know what conv is. There are over 3.2 million templates in articles but hardly any. A complication is that cvt is a useful abbreviation for convert and cvt has an extra property, namely that it sets  so unit symbols are shown, not names. Some editors assume does the same, but it doesn't. Johnuniq (talk) 04:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Sure, never thought about it that way. I'll try to remember to do that in future. HappyWith (talk) 15:20, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

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