User talk:Happyjustbcuz

December 2022
Hello, I'm MrOllie. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 12:35, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but can you restore the original text that I edited that has been there for a decade? I was trying to help identify the difference this person and organization has made it the world, and it seems like I erased the only reference to them! This is devastating. Happyjustbcuz (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I want to learn wiki. I would like to create a business page documenting this 48 year old philanthropic organization and the humble 84 year old man who runs it quietly, refusing any compensation for it. Any guidance towards this end would be appreciated. Thank you! Happyjustbcuz (talk) 17:52, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No, the text never should have been in the article in the first place. Thank you for drawing attention to it so it could be removed. It should not be re-added. MrOllie (talk) 18:26, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * How can we document this organization's contribution to cause marketing? This organization began in 1974 with a concept that referral fees from service providers could be directed to nonprofit organizations, and has existed with no other purpose for 48 years. This needs to be acknowledged. please guide me. Wikipedia is about documenting information; this is undisputed. What references or documentation do I need to provide to have it included? Happyjustbcuz (talk) 21:48, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is based on reliable, secondary sources. I would start by heading to the library to see if any books or peer-reviewed articles on the subject mention them or their organization. MrOllie (talk) 22:04, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Could I use interviews with churches that the CGF helped, or church publications mentioning the organization? Especially the larger ones that raised $3-4 million dollars?
 * How can I get verification from famous people that have their own wiki pages?
 * Jack W. Hayford
 * John MacArthur (American pastor)
 * Mariners Church
 * There are hundreds more.
 * I really appreciate your direction. Happyjustbcuz (talk) 00:18, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sources should be secondary and independent - if the CGF is helping an org, they really should not be used as a source. Famous people are not reliable sources just by virtue of their fame. Start with writings from academic publishers. If you yourself are associated with the CGF in some fashion, or have benefited from them, please see WP:COI, you may need to make required disclosures. MrOllie (talk) 00:37, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all your assistance. If the assistance to the church was in the past, over 10 years ago, can documentation be used as to speak to documentation of funds raised? The subject is cause marketing. They held free financial seminars, but the financial planners paid the referral fee to the CGF, who donated it to the church for any business generated from the seminars. This has been the marketing strategy for 48 years. There are possibly published church newsletters in the archives including these seminars. I'm not sure where to look for outside information or secular publications. Also can you give me search tips? How can I search charitable giving foundation charitable giving. Happyjustbcuz (talk) 06:45, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Church newsletters do not go through a fact checking or editorial process and are not reliable sources for Wikipedia. MrOllie (talk) 13:08, 5 December 2022 (UTC)