User talk:Hardvice

pantz
I like your pants. &hearts;purplefeltangel 12:59, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Pictures
Please do not upload pictures involving shitting, pissing, eating said shit and piss, or other obviously shocking practices in the future. That picture was truly shocking, and I have removed it. -- Phroziac (talk) 05:02, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

Obesity image
Hardvice, please do not carry on with the obesity images. The present image is adequate, has been censored (see talkpage) and is more illustrative than your own (as it shows the central obesity associated with disease). You are not the first editor to come to the article purely to do images, and it is seen as a nuisance by the editors who have worked hard on the content, as can be seen on the talk page. JFW | T@lk  23:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The man is naked! His private parts look shadowed by his stomach and that is it!  Hardvice 23:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The private parts have been pixellated out. If you're sitting there zooming into that picture to look for evidence... well... don't do that then. JFW | T@lk  23:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I think your addition of the same image to physical fitness more or less proves my point above. JFW | T@lk  23:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

WP:Vandalism
Hi,

Please discuss the changes you are attempting to make to thye Vandalism policy on the talk page. It is not the case that archiving talk pages is considered vandalism. in fact, its actively encouraged. Thnaks, Gwernol 13:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I was discussing them with a user I thought was in charge of the article. Hardvice 13:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No one is in charge of any article round here (see WP:OWN). KillerChiuaua (if that's even close to the correct spelling :-) is an admin here, but doesn't carry any special weight beyond that. Generally speaking changes to policy and guidelines should be debated on the article's talk page before the change is implemented (unless its a minor grammatical/spelling fix). Changes to policy can have unintended side effects and greatly effect all editors, so its a good idea to have an open discussion before changing things. Gwernol 13:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

ED "alternate" logo
Hey, wanted to comment on this obvious copyright infringement, but didn't know where. Guidance? Karwynn (talk) 21:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Archive?
Where am I claiming to "archive"?? Get your facts straight bud. (→ Netscott ) 05:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Your commentary is groundless... there's no way that Wikipedia is going to rely upon "evidence" that comes from ED... therefore such commentary that relies upon it is irrelevant. (→ Netscott ) 05:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Image
I went ahead and deleted the photo per your request on WP:PUI. FCYTravis 07:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's best to reupload it with a different file name. Hardvice 07:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Guardian ED Ref
You might want to mention that the first paragraph specifically refers to:

So the Guardian is describing the content in that article. Seems worth mentioning, I'm staying bowed out... rootology 01:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

"Encyclopaedia Dramatica contains a photo of George Bush with the American Constitution and with tl;dr inscribed on his forehead.
 * mention where? And you still talk. Can't you mention?  Hardvice 01:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * On this newspaper source from one of England's major newspapers,

TL;DR - or tl;dr, tl:dr, tl,dr or tl/dr - is net-derived lingo for 'too long; didn't read'. refers to, quite clearly. So, a reputable news source (RS) has now apparently cited Encyclopedia Dramatica (V). rootology 01:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Ethics?
Where do you stand in terms of ethics? Is all of the spamming that occurred over the ED article have any connection to yourself? With your previous history it is very easy to question your editing and "contributions" on Wikipedia. (→ Netscott ) 02:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Why do you consider corrupting an AFD by hiding evidence that's against your position and evidence that disproves false allegations by you ethical?

I have included a dictionary link for you Hardvice 02:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not "hiding" anything you've just duplicated User:Rootology's own addition. I've asked User:Rootology to remove your now duplicated content. I respect that he's able to abide by principals of logic and will respond accordingly. (→ Netscott ) 02:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I put it there first. Hardvice 02:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Your commentary constitutes uncessary bloat. User:Rootology knows how to properly cite the given information you've added. He didn't add a whole quarter page of info to the AfD but made a link to the talk page section that corresponds to it... that's just logical thinking. Hello... you can remove your now duplicated section. (→ Netscott ) 02:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Please stop edit warring on Articles for deletion/Encyclopædia Dramatica (3rd nomination)
This is addressed simultaneously to and.

Guys, please stop edit warring over this deletion discussion. If someone adds a comment to an AfD, it's not a good idea to remove it and you can be blocked for doing so. As you're both warring, I would consider blocking both of you should you continue. --Tony Sidaway 02:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Can you please make sure all comments stay? I know you don't like the website, but well I was going to say it's only got quotes of you from wikipedia.  But well it did have that before you got into tying to bring the site's article down so I think that should at least count for something, that before you went after the article, the site made no attacks on you at all (it only attacked the person you banned).  I hope this count as just a little to how you fell about the site. Hardvice 03:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * What on earth are you talking about? --Tony Sidaway 03:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * What part or parts do you not understand? Hardvice 04:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * All of it.


 * By the way, I gave you a three-hour block for persistent trolling on what you appear to believe is MONGO's IP number. This is a form of harassment. Don't do it again. --Tony Sidaway 04:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * That was old stuff. You shouldn't block for old stuff.


 * Okay, let's go through this now. First, I thought you hate Encyclopedia Dramatica because it mentioned things about you, correct or not?   Second, before you tried to take the article down (including banning and blocking people who supported it), there only were quotes from wikipedia from you with references -- it made no attacks against you, either.  Sure there's more now, but that's in retaliation to your actions against the site's fans and editors.  But you hated it before then, when it only just said promethspan was (well it said something bad about him), then quoted you looking tough and I think that it should count for something that you shouldn't hate the site so much.  What do you think?  Hardvice 04:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It wasn't old stuff..


 * I don't hate Encyclopedia Dramatica. I've argued for deletion of the article because I don't think we, as a community, can produce a neutral article on the subject. I neither know nor care whether what you say about that website "attacking" me is true.  As long as the childish attacks and trolling against Wikipedians remain on ED, fine.  When the attacks are copied here, as they have recently, then they get removed.


 * In short, I don't think you understand quite how focused we are on producing an encyclopedia. To that end, your trolling must be kept away from those working on it. --Tony Sidaway 04:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't like the wikipedia article on it. Not just recent versions, but old ones, too.  It's basically a war between people trying to promote certain aspects of the site (probably what they edited), and those that hate the site -- so it produces to me something bad.  Also, the site bashes furries a lot, but still on wikifur  they did a better article than on wikipedia.  Basically, it would be better to just go right with what sources say and that's it.  People should say just what's in the sources.  The Uncyclopedia article has some problem of too much unsourced information, and I think it looks ugly from it, too.  You know if the site goes to the Parody subpage, it would be the same problem.  If it's kept in article space, even as a stub and people have to use just what's in sources, then it might get rid of the problem.


 * About the block, I was not Trolling. Block reason even said, "what he believes." Trolls do not say things they believe, they say things they don't believe. I request that if I am blocked, the reason be changed to something that is true. State my actions, but do not state false intentions--"trolling" is a false intention. This can be done with an unblock and reblock. Just don't call something trolling when it's not intended.  People can argue, go against social cliques, etc. without being trolls.  If someone sincerely has an objection to something or is upset, etc.  They are not a troll.  If someone just immitates someone who is upset, then they are.  Wikipedia used to say, "extremely strong pov" and disruptive, but now it's all trolling as if people are incapable of actually feeling or thinking something like that, so they must be fakes.


 * As for age of it, Zen already looked over it and did not block me. I even talked with him about it on his talk page.


 * So you are upset over how the site features others on wikipedia, more than yourself?


 * Back to what you said about problems with editing the ED article here related to POV, there's a category Category:Wikipedia_critics and Wikitruth used to have its entire website on the spam blacklist.


 * Personal attack screenshot? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WikiTruthScreenshot.jpg  It says an administrator recognizes the value of something and I won't repeat the rest.  Hardvice 05:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "So you are upset over how the site features others on wikipedia, more than yourself?" I think it's that kind of non sequitur that, more than anything, convinces me that you are here solely to troll. --Tony Sidaway 05:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm not. If I was, I would not bother arguing with you about it.  Please read my explanation.  You do not understand what the word troll means.  Hardvice 05:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Warning
Do not post anyone else's IP around again. For the record, and I have stated this several times now I believe, that is not my IP. It belongs to someone else, probably someone who knows me and is aware of both my articles and about the "crap" at encyclopedia dramatica. Your actions are harassment, so cease this immediately.--MONGO 07:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I thought you would not mind posting the IP's edit since it was not you. I'd think you'd want it proven it wasn't you and I expected you to reply and prove it was not you.  Very sorry.  Hardvice 07:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey Hardvice, how do you ask for a Checkuser thing? MONGO said he wouldn't mind, and I'm probably going to.  I thought I'd ask you, because you seem interested also.  Karwynn (talk) 16:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind, vandalism on MONGO's part is not serious enough. Karwynn (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI rootology 16:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked your sock
I've blocked your covert sock,, indefinitely. I'm blocking you for forty-eight hours, which will be lifted immediately if you declare all other socks and agree to avoid socking in future. --Tony Sidaway 16:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I will declare my socks, but I will keep the font size small so nobody else but you sees them. Hipocrite and Netscott . I hope you don't tell too many people.  Hardvice 17:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * As a result of this discussion, you've been blocked indefinitely to implement a community ban. You may not edit Wikipedia again. --Tony Sidaway 21:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/MONGO
Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Requests for arbitration/MONGO. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/MONGO/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/MONGO/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 (talk) 13:10, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

If you would like to post evidence to the case you can use the unblock template to ask to be unblocked to participate. Thatcher131 (talk) 13:10, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/MONGO
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

and are banned indefinitely from Wikipedia. No action is taken against MONGO for any excessive zeal he has displayed. Links to Encyclopædia Dramatica may be removed wherever found on Wikipedia as may material imported from it. Users who insert links to Encyclopædia Dramatica or who copy material from it here may be blocked for an appropriate period of time. Care should be taken to warn naive users before blocking. Strong penalties may be applied to those linking to or importing material which harasses other users.

For the Arbitration Committee. Arbitration Committee Clerk, FloNight 02:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Links to ED removed
Please note I have removed links to the Encyclopedia Dramatica from your talk page. I apologize for the inconvenience. If you have questions, please see -- User:RyanFreisling @ 19:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)