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Hello, I would like to initiate a discussion on the deleted article about "Kaymu Pakistan". I am sure there must be something that needs to be improved to get this published, as I understand and respect Wikipedia guidelines.

So I would like to discuss that we tried our best to add value by offering authentic information [facts, achievements. changes, leaders] on Kaymu Pakistan. We believe the company is noteworthy in Pakistan, being the first and largest online B2B & B2C marketplace. Anyone who wanted to know about Kaymu in Pakistan, I think my article will offer all.

My idea was to provide information on Kaymu Pakistan as per the format set by "Lazada Philippines"[1]. I structured my article in same format. Following other Wikipedia articles also has same format or similar kind of information as I present for Kaymu Pakistan.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumia
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazada_Indonesia
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomesPakistan
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazada_Philippines

We have made several changes to the draft along with updated references & try to make it as much as informative as possible.

Hariskhan12345 (talk) 11:14, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello! I want to know did you read this? If your article (it seems to be a company) then refer WP:COMPANY. Because Wikipedias' article are written in neutral point of view. Do not write it for advertisement. First check if it is notable, then use proper reliable sources to cite. aGastya    &#9993; Dicere Aliquid :) 13:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Hariskhan12345 (talk) 10:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)Thanks for your response aGastya, I think we have pretty much removed whatever we feel is advertising the business, all we need to project is value and information for visitor who wants to know about Kaymu Pakistan.

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Kaymu Pakistan


A tag has been placed on Draft:Kaymu Pakistan, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kaymu Pakistan has been accepted
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Nomination of Kaymu Pakistan for deletion
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 * I would like to inform that I made several edits in draft version and I was in constancy contact with Wikipedia moderators including Samee to get this as per Wikipedia standards. I understand there might be a lot of improvement required to make it the best Wikipedia encyclopedic content, but what if I want to know about "Kaymu Pakistan", as its a notable company in Pakistan, with TVCs and massive advertisement. People wanted to know about company before making purchase. The content I offered is only about Kaymu Pakistan, not to market Kaymu in Pakistan. Please suggest what changes I should made or to come up with content which makes sense to you. Also, the references I used are the only references available.

I request if you can help with changes in already approved content, I will make sure to do accordingly Hariskhan12345 (talk) 12:28, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This article clearly fail notability criteria. Please understand Wikipedia is not a means of promotion for your company. --Saqib (talk) 12:40, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


 * It doesn't make sense if you start judging people: "promotion for your company" .... On what basis you come up with this consensus? Notability doesn't means writing about the most popular thing, if people know things then they don't need Wikipedia. Do you think these companies are notable enough ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomesPakistan, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zameen.com ... I think having them on Wikipeda is offering information.
 * Look at your edits. It gives clear impression that you're affiliated with the organisation or editing on behalf of them. Anyway, that is not an issue. The issue is this organisation doesn't pass WP notability criteria. Yes, notability doesn't means writing about the most popular thing but it doesn't means either that we write about organisation that spend millions on TVCs and massive advertisements. You better avoid gaming the system by saying that HomesPakistan and Zameen.com articles are up. When time comes, their notability could be questioned as well. Anyways, you've 7 days time, if you able to get reliable references which can demonstrate that said organisation is noteworthy, the article can be resuced otherwise it will be deleted. --Saqib (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I am unable to get anything positive / purposeful from your answer, also, you are still judging me (whether its an issue or not). I do not want to judge you by saying anything. All I want to know, how you define notability. I made more than 100 edits to the article to make sure its encyclopedic, offer information to the person who wants to know about the company, and made sure its not projecting / marketing. I am making effort to add different articles to Wikipedia about companies which are known among people but doesn't has any information. My next work is about 'ShopHive' and 'MyShop', these companies operating for about 10 years. I personally wanted to know about them and I though Wikipedia should offer information about such companies. The reason I start with Kaymu is because its more notable then these companies. Companies such as Home_shopping, HomesPakistan and Zameen.com are inspiration to add more information to Wikipedia for people in Pakistan. Please help me with how and what should I do to keep the information available for people. I am new to Wikipedia and still looking for help.Hariskhan12345 (talk) 07:06, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If this organisation has recieved fair number of mentions in reliable sources then its notable, otherwise its not. So far I can see only two references in the article which doesn't justify the notability. The rest of the references I've deleted because they're not acceptable references here as they're not reliable enough to cite. So I said, you better get reliable references which can demonstrate that said organisation is noteworthy. And yes you're welcome to write about organistions you want but please be note those would be deleted as well if you not provide enough reliable references which can back-up the material. BTW. You have been told by Samee that you should avoid mentoning peacock terms such as vision and that very first sentence "the first online marketplace" but still you didn't fixed them as I can see here. Anyways, I cannot help you improving this article. --Saqib (talk) 10:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok fair enough, now I know what exactly you are looking for. Let me edit this version once again and come up with solid references. Regarding the peacock term, I updated from "largest" to "first" as its the only online marketplace in Pakistan. There is a difference between online shopping site (homeshopping), Online classified website(OLX), and online marketplace (kaymu). I hope my latest edit will make sense to you. Hariskhan12345 (talk) 13:31, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You better create draft somewhere instead of re-adding the same material and same unacceptable references which I have removed. --Saqib (talk) 17:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I was in the middle of edit, not trying to give you same references. Anything with week ref I am removing it (even if it adds value to the reader)


 * I have made several edits to the page along with updating almost all references. Please have a look and guide me if there are further improvements required. Also, I will check over the weekend as well to make sure to fix before seven days. I would really appreciate your cooperation.


 * I have seen several edits from your end, I would like to thank you for making this a better/authentic copy. I think I can research more references to make sure everything I mentioned makes sense. I can update references in a couple of day.


 * Can you please help with this, I think we have a discussion on what I have done, I would really appreciate if you can contribute once again and update me with what needs to be done so that Saqib and other moderators are also comfortable with.

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