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John Daniell (cricketer)
No problem. It was all to the good, as it inspired me to add a rugby WikiProject template. JH (talk page) 21:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: Somerset CCC
I shall, thanks. SGGH ping! 12:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Somerset cricketers
Thank you for the note. I tend to be more interested in Somerset cricketers from a slightly earlier era, and go through occasional periods when I add a lot of material, particularly about the obscure players with few appearances or the lesser lights I watched in the 1950s and 1960s. RL has been getting in the way of substantial contributions for a while now and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I saw you had been doing good work on modern players and am happy to read and to chip in where appropriate. I have a couple of pet hates: recentism, as you might expect; and the tendency to put things into tables rather than bothering to write a decent bit of prose that explains all in a far more literate and colourful way. But I'm pretty forgiving of those who transgress... Johnlp (talk) 22:45, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Alastair Cook
I think it only needs a bit of work on the lead to get it up to the level of Dinesh Karthik and Graeme Smith. Spiderone 08:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's the peer review Spiderone  08:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Refs for Somerset County Cricket Club
Hi, I added some references to Somerset County Cricket Club, as part of working my way through WikiProject Somerset/Cleanup listing where it appears because of the refimprove tag. The quality of the the refs I added has been suggested to be a bit iffy (I'm not a cricket fan) & you were suggested as someone who might have some more reliable sources for this article. Any help appreciated.&mdash; Rod talk 07:46, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Marcus Trescothick
Hey Harrias. With your edit here you seem to have set all the punctuation in that section to appear after the citations rather than before as per WP:MOS. Not sure if this was just an accident, so thought I would make you aware. SGGH ping! 16:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

List of County Championship winners
I wish that you'd mentioned in advance, on either the Cricket WP Talk page or the County Championship Talk page, about your plan to hive off the list of winners into a separate article. It'a a major change, which I think merited some discussion before it took place to see if most people were in favour. Most people might well have said "go ahead", but personally I think there's a lot to be said for keeping the list of winners as a part of the main article rather than fragmenting it. JH (talk page) 17:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * No apology needed. But perhaps it's not too late to initiate a dicsussion on the prject's talk page now about whether the list, or some portion of it, ought to be reinstated in the main article? JH (talk page) 09:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. JH (talk page) 16:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Dar Lyon
No problem - though in this case some of his other work was actually mentioned in the Wisden obit... You don't seem to be only one with those blinkers though. Trawling a bit further through DYK, I found Sydney Rippon, whose career mysteriously goes on hold between 1914 and 1919 - no mention of a bit of a minor skirmish in France, Belgium and elsewhere. (I assume the war actually caused a suspension of the county championship?) David Underdown (talk) 14:52, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Jack Lee
Agree. Certainly ours is the more distinguished cricketer! But he's the one at present without an article, so asserting any primacy for him is a bit difficult until that's rectified. He's on my list to tackle, but probably not immediately: I only found a few days ago that the link in List of Somerset CCC players led to the footballer who made one Leicestershire appearance. Changed that, but then didn't follow through as I should have done. Kind regards. Johnlp (talk) 10:32, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. I'll see if I can add anything tonight, whenever I escape from RL. Johnlp (talk) 10:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I did a bit and will manage more over the weekend if you don't get there first. I hope you don't mind. Cheers. Johnlp (talk) 22:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

London Counties cricketers
I'm not altogether sure that this category is a good idea, mainly because people are liable to confuse it with "London County cricketers", which is something very different (ie players who apperared for London County). It would be less liable to be confused if it was "London counties cricketers", ie with a small "c" for "counties". I can't see any good reason for a capital letter. It will be a mammoth task to add the category to every cricketer who played for one of the "London counties", especially as it looks as though you are including Kent and Essex players as well as Surrey and Middlesex. Perhaps the category article should hjave an introductory sentence setting out the qualification criteria? JH (talk page) 18:57, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * As you'll have realised, I was writing under a misconception, but I think it strengthens my point that an introductory sentence in the category article pointing at the London Counties cricket team article would be a good idea. JH (talk page) 19:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'm happy. :) JH (talk page) 17:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Lansdown Cricket Club
I think I recall reading somewhere that Viv Richards played for the club while qualifying for Somerset, some time around 1974. If I'm right, that would clearly be worth noting. JH (talk page) 14:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 1973, in fact. I found some references online, most notable Richards' CoY article from the 1977 Wisden. I'll add a mention to the article. JH (talk page) 14:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
Well, thank you very much. I am also indebted to you for rekindling my interest in Somerset cricketers: it's nice to get stuck into to something a bit meaty and to know that someone else is reading and improving it. Kind regards. Johnlp (talk) 09:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Banes-Walker
I've done a bit of additional work. Hopefully where I've changed your text the reason for the change should be fairly clear-if not do ask me. I've seen some doubt cast on Find-a-grave as a reliable source, as anyone can submit info, so I've added a reference to the official Commonwealth War Graves Commission record for him, since that's the official body charged with recording are Commonwealth war casualties from teh two world wars. David Underdown (talk) 11:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Much improved for sure. Like any great British institution the army has so many traditions and so on that have built up over time (many unwritten), that only familiarity helps understand how it actually works.  WWI is aprticualrly difficult as the army was forced to undergo huge changes in a relatively short time.  David Underdown (talk) 14:16, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've found this leaflet, http://www.cwgc.org/admin/files/cricket%20leaflet.pdf which has some useful background about cricketers killed in the two world wars. It only gives a complete list of test cricketers who died, but it does also talk about the alternative uses ground were put to and so on. David Underdown (talk) 09:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

SS Norhauk
I've replied at T:TDYK and suggested an alternative hook which should cover the issue raised. Mjroots (talk) 09:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)