User talk:Harrias/Archive 12

1966 European Cup Winners' Cup Final
Just to let you know I've finished addressing your concerns, any further comments on how to improve the article would be welcome. NapHit (talk) 18:09, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Thanks for the review, I've replied there Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Old House of Keys
Hello! Your submission of Old House of Keys at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cambalachero (talk) 17:35, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

If you renominate ...
I'm sorry to see that an FA delegate has just archived Somerset County Cricket Club in 2009 as not having garnered enough support in a month. If you decide to renominate at some point, please drop me a note; I'll be glad to support again. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Sources for Ian Botham Grade Cricket in Australia 1976/1977
An uncited tag has been added to the section of the Ian Botham article which deals with Grade Cricket in Australia 1976/1977. Would you have access to any reliable sources which could be used in this section?&mdash; Rod talk 10:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Cornelius Smelt
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Commander (Ping me) 06:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Southern 100
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Harry Lee
I've reviewed it and placed it on hold for some fairly minor stuff. Nice job and a possible future FAC? He was a much more interesting character than I though he'd be and some parallels to Bill Bowes who was on the MCC staff, was a PoW and wrote an engaging autobiography. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:48, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've replied to your replies! Looks good and I'll pass when you have finished. I'm not sure your writing needs improvement, it always looks pretty good. Copy-editing is just fiddling around anyway and whatever I change I've just picked up from lurking around FAC. Gillespie... Hmmm. Given that he was rubbish as our overseas player and has no qualifications or experience as a coach that I'm aware of, I'm not too sure to be honest. He's a bit of a speculative choice; he may be great or he may ... not be. I'd have preferred a more established name but I'm not sure any coach can be held responsible for the disaster and underperformance that was Yorkshire in 2011 when you compare it to almost the same players' seasons in 2010. I like the overseas player though as Jacques has done very well for us before. We'll see. Surely we can come straight back up. Surely? --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Passed now. --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Old House of Keys
Orlady (talk) 05:04, 23 November 2011 (UTC) 16:04, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Harry Lee, again
Hi, sorry to be slow responding. I'm doing 15-16 hour days at work at present, seven days a week, so have had little time to more than pass through in recent weeks. It will get better in a couple of weeks. I looked up the Middlesex section of the 1924 Wisden (page 189 to 191, Part II) to see why Lee bowled so much during the season: main reason seems to have been injuries and illnesses to other players. Nigel Haig was ill for virtually the whole season and bowled only 15 overs when he returned to the side in August; J. W. Hearne was injured in the August Bank Holiday game and did not play after that (August Bank Holiday at the beginning of August in those days); and Durston "so far from improving his position among fast bowlers, lost ground", said Wisden. (1924 edition, part II, page 191, Chapter "Middlesex Matches"). Of Lee, it wrote on the same page: "His 46 wickets were taken at a very heavy cost. Purely a change bowler, he had too much to do." The report of the match at Cheltenham where Lee took 12 wickets (8/39 and 4/27) on page 259 fails to mention Lee at all! Hearne did not play in this match; Haig did, bowling 14 of his 15 overs for the season in the game but taking only one wicket. A pretty comprehensive victory, but if you believed Wisden's report you'd think Haig's decision to put Gloucestershire in after winning the toss and the "admirable" defensive batting of Dales, another amateur, were the main factors in it.

I can look that match up in The Times if you want me to see if they had a different take on it. And I'll wander through some other Wisdens of the period if and when I have time, but if you have any specific questions, just drop me a note: all my 98 years of Wisden are pretty much to hand at the desk where I work, and a bit of displacement activity is always good. I also have a book about the Middlesex Championship winning team of 1920 somewhere. Johnlp (talk) 22:00, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Somerset connection!
I'm currently plugging away interminably on Learie Constantine in a sandbox at the moment, but just came across a few references to John Cameron (cricketer) along the way. Given we're both dabbling in the West Indies at the moment, I wondered if you knew anything about him via Somerset? All I've got is Wisden and that West Indian Test players book. Incidentally, the early West Indies stuff (excepting Fernandes!) is really dire. The Grant brothers and even Manny Martindale's article are pathetic given their stature. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Found an image of Herbie Hewett in Beldham's photography books which I had very temporary access to. Added it to the article, but feel free to move it around or whatever. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:56, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Reviewing old nominations

 * Indeed, kudos! The Interior  (Talk) 22:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK Paul Matete
Thanks for reviewing Paul Matete. I've improved some of the references so do you mind taking another look at Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Matete? Cheers Mattlore (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Tarrytown Music Hall DYK
Oops. I had meant, when making the original nomination, to point out that most of the text from the last version before I started expanding and rewriting it was copyvio. If you were to account for that I believe that it would meet the fivefold text-expansion rule. Daniel Case (talk) 20:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Cambridge stuff
"(Moral Sci. Trip., 1st Class, 1873)" seems to translate as follows: he studied Moral Sciences (i.e. Philosophy) and obtained a 1st-class mark in the Tripos honours degree examinations of 1873. This glossary looks useful and I might bookmark it for times when I need to understand "The Other Place" (or I might go and ask The Rambling Man, who went there...) Hope this helps. BencherliteTalk 21:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Otium
All the issues have been handled and there are now no tags. Can the DYK go through now?--Doug Coldwell talk 23:07, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No, certainly they have not. As the talk page will show, Doug Coldwell is in serious discussion with several editors, who observe that the sources don't say what he claims they do.


 * On the other hand, it is patent that what Doug wants out of this is an award, any award; if you can bear to give the article one even if it doesn't deserve it, he may go away and write on a subject he understands. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Otium
 * How do I go about submitting a co-nominator for the DYK, as User:7&6=thirteen was a major contributator that should also get the DYK. The article is stable and there are no issues with any editors.--Doug Coldwell talk 14:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Can we get User:7&6=thirteen as a joint-contributor and give that editor DYK credit also? Are we good to go now? --Doug Coldwell talk 19:38, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Isha Life
Please see my reply to your comment for the DYK nom for Isha Life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regstuff (talk • contribs) 07:07, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Me again
I've reviewed Fernandes as it has been sat there for ages. And no, I'm not stalking you... It's on hold, probably very briefly. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing on the origins of definition of f-c cricket other than what is in the article itself. Everything about 1947 I've only ever read on here. Possibly Blackjack may be the person to ask about this one? --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Native Labour (Settlement of Disputes) Act, 1953
Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ibrahim Khaleel
Orlady (talk) 02:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC) 08:01, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

HMS Vindex stuff
Hello, Harrias. Firstly, I'd like to apologize for how I did not read the talk page comments, as I should; I would have left the article for you to fully review, had I known you had already been looking at it. But, in any case, I just wanted to drop by to thank you for the comments You posted on the GA review page. It was an excellent catch. :) --Starstriker7(Talk) 05:37, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Old House of Keys
Review started with an initial question, will post full review tomorrow. Thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:55, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

@ Pass. Congratulations.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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Talkback
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DYK for Juan Martínez de Recalde
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Back to Harry Lee
I think I said I had a book somewhere on the 1920 Championship victory. It's called Plum Warner's Last Season (1920) and it's by Ronald Mason, published by Epworth Press in 1970 with an ISBN of 0-7162-0171-2. It's fairly florid in places, but it does have a description of Lee and his batting style in mid-career:

"The personification of sterling and loyal service coupled with abilities that were concealed rather than accentuated by his innate modesty. He was a short square amiable Cockney with fair scanting hair and a mild blue eye, temperate and unassertive, chunky and quizzical...The natural compactness of his movements had not been improved by his War experience, in the course of which he had been left all night in No Man's Land with a severe leg wound, and he walked for the rest of a prolonged and popular career with a craggy little limp which he carried off with adroitness and aplomb. I doubt if even before his injury his style had been of the free-flowing sort; by now at any rate it had solidified into a canny and tortured crouch which made his inconsiderable height less considerable still. But his blue eyes looked cagily down the wicket out of this uncomfortable posture and his great muscular adapability and power saw to it that although defence was his element, the forcing shots went off with every bit as much penetration as if all the classic graces had timed them. As a solid practical opener there were few to equal him in England."

Not much on his bowling, though there are reports of each of the individual games of the Middlesex season. Hope that is some use. Johnlp (talk) 23:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

List of monarchs of East Anglia
Thanks for your comments, Harrias. I'll be able to sort out the things you mentioned, but lining up the image with the kings properly will be a hard nut to crack. Making the whole image interactive would be really difficult to achieve, but I might be able to find a way of clicking on a king's name in the image to jump to the relevant part of the table. Would that work for you? Hel-hama (talk) 10:04, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply - I've made the changes you suggest. Hel-hama (talk) 15:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 14:16, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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