User talk:HarrisonB/Archive2007/April

Ellen Fanning
Hi Harrison - I am not an admin and only they can block users. There are strict guidelines for blocking such people - but I note that someone has beaten us to it by protecting the Ellen Fanning article already. Thanks for keeping an eye out and letting me know. Keep up the editing work! -- VS talk 01:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well actually it looks like it was user:BigDT that placed the protection on - 'cause you need to be an admin to do that too. -- VS talk 09:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey Harrison, as Steve mentions, only admins can protect pages. The tag you placed on the Ellen Fanning article doesn't actually do anything other than inform editors that the page has been semi protected. Admins have a special "protect" tab at the top of the page next to the "edit this page" and "history" tabs. In future, if you think a page needs to be protected, please list it on WP:RFPP and an admin will review it but please don't place the s-protect or protect tags on the articles as they don't actually do anything and will just confuse people. Cheers, Sarah 06:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Harrison. You asked how you can meet other editors, I noticed that you joined the Australian Wikiproject. The Australian project and the related pages, such as the Australian Wikipedians' Noticebard, are good place to link in with other Australians. There's also lots of other projects for all different subjects and you can get more info on them at the WikiProject and the directory of WikiProjects pages. But I think the best way to meet other editors is just by editing articles and joining discussion on subjects that interest you. You'll quickly meet lots of people and make friends. As well, you might be interested in joining adopt-a-User. This is a program which matches up new editors with an experienced editor who will answer any questions you might have and generally help you learn all about Wikipedia. Hope that helps answer your question. Cheers, Sarah 13:28, 5

April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi HB4026, I'd be happy to "adopt" you and show you the ropes. You seem to have an interest in cars, I've looked at the article mentioned further up this talk page and it looks pretty good even for an experienced user! I would normally give you a lot of links here but someone has already done so above. There are two things I could suggest for starters.
 * 1) Join a wikiproject, I would suggest perhaps WikiProject Automobiles? Or any other wikiprojects, you can look here and find a list of them, pick ones you are interested in! You can also look under your interests at the requested articles list and, once you have checked that one of the redlinks doesn't already exist somewhere else, you can create it!
 * 2) Secondly, I would suggest that you take a look at Did you know?. Here, you can propose little interesting facts from your newly created article to go on the front page. I remember when I first started, my first article was nominated for this by another user the day after I wrote it, and it really spurred me on and made me more enthusiastic about editing here. The only criteria is that you pick and interesting fact, and the the newly created article that you get it from is larger than a stub. If you look at the DYK page you'll see all these instructions anyway.

Any other questions, please feel free to ask me anytime! I will try to check up on you when I can, but leaving me a message would be the best way to get a hold of my quickly! Regards, SGGH 11:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, the Manual of Style will help you with all your article writing queries, but if you only have one or two specific questions it would be best to ask me directly, as the MOS is pretty long :D. And your userpage seems fine! But if you have any particular thing you want to do with it (notice I have gone for the borderline-obsessive-compulsively-organised theme) let me know and I'll see what I can do. SGGH 11:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You can do whatever you like with your user page as long as it sticks in the guidelines set out by wiki :) you are correct, I "stole" my own drop boxes from User:Zleitzen! SGGH 14:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy Easter
Hey Harrison, I'm happy to see that you decided to try out WP:ADOPT and that have chosen such an excellent adopter for yourself! Well done and I hope that you find the program helpful. I'm sure that SG will look after you very well, but please feel free to use my talk page anytime. Goodluck with the adoption and I hope you have a nice Easter and a great school holiday. Cheers, Sarah 14:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Happy Easter to you too Harrison. Thank you for thanking me.  I will still be around whenever you want help (even though I know you have a great adopter looking after you now also). Take care over the break.-- VS  talk 00:52, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks - a chocolate chip cookie for Easter is perfect.-- VS talk 10:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

User page
Looks nice and neat! My talk page has half turned yellow all of a sudden, not sure why that's happened. I can't see any edits made by anyone that have turned it yellow, oh well! Keep at it! SGGH 17:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh by the way, it is a good idea to use the edit summary. It helps other users to understand what you're doing with an article, and just generally puts you in a better light with editors who come across your work, as someone who is diligent enough to fill in the edit summary is hard working in other areas too! :D SGGH
 * You can set your preferences to automatically prompt you when you haven't fill it in, and this way you will have near 100% edit summary usage :) SGGH 10:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Qyz Ads
What sort of problems are you having Harrison? I am not having any.-- VS talk 07:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, if you see that it is probably just the wikipedia servers slowing down and catching up across the whole of the wiki system.-- VS talk 08:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

In response to your request for review of the Ford AU Falcon...
Hi Harrison,

You asked me for my review of this article here and so I will respond below somewhat briefly (there may other points that other editors have). I note the good changes made as a general comment - well done! ... but to go to the critique I have following views...
 * 1) I think the lead section works reasonably well but needs citations or inline referencing particularly at the third paragraph which reports the notable controversies of the model (both the styling and the engine) but fails to provide a verifiable link/s to where the concerns came from.
 * 2) In that same lead section you refer to NVH which leads to a disabiguation page - of course I know what you mean but I think you should put in a pipe link (ask if you don't know how) so as to bring the reader directly to the page you mean.
 * 3) Similarly you refer to disappointing sales but the reader (a) has no idea how to measure this by the lack of numbers or 9b) can not refere again to an inline reference to show that there was in fact a disappointment by car dealerships or Ford.
 * 4) Paragraph 4 also talks of complaints and would be improved if references were provided in a couple of locations.
 * 5) I think that most editors that concern themselves with references would suggest that inline references are put into the following format (again if you need help please ask me).
 * 6) I think that the section headed Available features on the base model Forte would be vastly improved if it was put into a table - if you need help let me know.
 * 7) Finally - the mark of a great editor is careful proof-reading for grammar and spelling. We all make mistakes of course (and some or all of them may not be your writing) but considering this is your current 'signature' article you need to look very carefully.  The following words (at least) are mispelled ... millenium, leveled, dissapointing, comftorbale, Vechiles (several times), it’s (a couple of times), Sillouette, woodgrain (a couple of times) and bootlid. Which leads me to suggest (in absolute kindness and knowing how keen you are to becoming a great editor) that this is the exact reason why you should never put a comment like you have on the article talk page (in the form of This article is fully edited etc.) on any article - because the nature of Wikipedia is that no article probably ever reaches such a stage and no-one has ownership over an article to decree that this should occur. (In fact I think that you should go and strike through the comment and perhaps make another comment to show that you have learned that this is not the done thing).

Finally I suggest that you keep editing - fix some or all of these suggestions and then move on to show your keeness at other articles (and probably other topics).-- VS talk 06:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Very encouraging to see a new user already taking up all that is for offer! You have given yourself a very solid start here SGGH 20:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Harrison - teaching you about tables is a bit difficult over the airwaves. I have taken the opportunity to put the data into one for you and posted it to the page.  They are a fair bit of work but look good once done.  Have a look at the coding by going to the edit page and you will start to pick it up I'm sure.  I have also finished reviewing the article - made the adjustments that you have now seen and I think your work has brought it up to a fine shape.  So my question to you now is - What's your next article? -- VS  talk 02:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Harrison - It was my pleasure to help. In relation to your comment about re-grading the article - it is probably improper for me to make any higher adjustment than Start as I have had a bit to do with the article. I suggest you go HERE and make a request for assessment.  Also can I suggest that you do not remove comment from the talk pages - I appreciate you may have felt a little embarrassed about the comment BUT it should remain as a record - partially because it will give other editors a track record of watching you grow through the project.  Finally can I also suggest that you go to this page ... it will give you your current edit count.  You will see that the vast majority of your edits do not have an edit summary (which is a big problem for up and coming editors such as yourself).  MY POINT - Put in an edit summary in each of your changes - each and every one so that you get the proper recognition for being a good editor.  I hope my comments help?-- VS  talk 03:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Nice adjustment to the photographs, and to the table (hide/show). I also noticed your request for reassessment at WP Oz. Cheers!(PS don't forget an edit summary each and every time is the way to go)-- VS talk 02:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey Harrison, thanks very much for the chocolate chip cookie award! I love chocolate, so it was indeed the perfect award for me and I shall move it onto my sepcial barnstars and other nice things page soon. :) Your userpage is looking good now and I am glad to see that you are settling in to the project well. I don't know much about cars, but your edits to the Ford AU Falcon article look good to me! I hope you had a nice Easter and that you and your family are enjoying the holidays. Thanks again for the award. Take care, Sarah 09:51, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Question
May I ask you, what brought you to thinking I was new in the first place? Just a friendly inquiry is all. Regards,-- $U IT  19:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Random Smiley Award
 For your contributions to Wikipedia and humanity in general, you are hereby granted the coveted Random Smiley Award originated by Pedia-I (Explanation and Disclaimer) ♠  TomasBat   ( @ )  ( Contribs )  ( Sign! ) 21:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done Harrison your first award!-- VS talk 21:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

RE:DYK
Well, you're actually just creating an article, then you go here and click on suggestions. Then underneath the relevant date you add what is called a "hook", an interesting fact that, if chosen by the admins who run DYK, will appear on the did you know section of the main page (middle-bottom-left).

So if you create an article today, about... I don't know.... *glances around* the Maximiser Telephone system. If it is larger than a stub then you could go to DYK, and under the subheading of todays date typoe something like:


 * .... that the Maximiser Phone System can connect with your computer and display the status of as many as 500 phones in your office? (then put your sig here)

You always wikilink and bold the title of the article that the DYK comes from, then you're all set! You can look at some of the existing ones if you are still unsure (go to my "created articles" and click on the articles with the big black questionmarks next to them, those are articles that have been DYK'd)

SGGH 07:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

In relation to featured pics - I take a lot of photographs and some of them are judged pretty good by others - see here for all of my pics on Commons (there are over 25of of them. Mattinbgn nominated one of mine to the Australian Portal and they chose it. (PS it will take a while to download as you will get a thumbnail of all of my images).

In relation to DYK's What SGGH says on your talk page is the exact way to write a DYK. But to help you even more - can you remember that I have asked you a couple of times what is your next article (and you haven't been able to answer as yet?) .... Let me put it this way see if you can think of an article that isn't up on Wiki as yet - Brand New and particularly interesting and then get back to me on it we can together (that is with both of us editing - and your patience (an important skill on Wiki also) write a DYK and see if we can get it up on the main page. Deal? But your job is to find something new and interesting because we need to have a hook to catch our DYK assessors with. Get back to me before you start so I can pre-assess your idea.-- VS  talk 10:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * By the way you don't need to delete your comments off of talk pages once the question (or whatever) has been answered :) I'd rather have the record on my talk page, and I know most users feel the same. VS also makes some good points above, go for it! SGGH 10:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Advertisment for WP: Australia
Re Your question - Actually I was wondering about that myself a couple of weeks ago but the truth is there are a good deal of members on WP:Australia already and there are a lot of admins etc who may want to have something to say before we ask Qxz. I suggest that you put up a question on WP:Australia to see what the consensus view is on the matter.-- VS talk 07:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the barnstar! That was a really nice one, I really appreciate it. :) By the way, I noticed your idea about getting the Aussie project on the Ads and I reckon it's a really good idea. Sarah 08:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Two Questions

 * 1) How long before you're able to get your licence (sorry I should have indicated - drivers licence)?
 * 2) Do you mind if I get a bit stern with you?-- VS talk 11:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You're not being rude - I asked you about your licence because it was my roundabout way of trying to determine your age for the following reasons (and thank you for replying that you didn't mind me being a bit stern with you):
 * 1) You have told everyone that you are a teenager - which we all respect,
 * 2) You are clearly a very very keen young man and editor to be,
 * 3) You are asking myself, Sarah, and your adopter many good questions - and we all like to assist editors with this sort of potential BUT
 * 4) There are a couple of occasions now where you are not listening to me/us (eg: deleting stuff of pages and using your edit summary tool) - so to try and give you a really really good role model (who is probably around your age - or was when he started - and is now an administrator at 17) - I want you to go to this edit tool check for User:Harryboyles. Notice that he started off not doing as many edit summaries etc until someone told him to pull his socks up - and now he always does.
 * 5) Finally you have the potential to be an administrator one day - but as I said before things like edit summaries etc are important - so NOT FAIR if you only listen to the good things we tell you and not the others.-- VS talk 11:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As another young admin (only 19) I can say that VS is correct on a lot of points :D the edit summary is a really good idea, definitely shows your committment to being a helpful professional contributor early on. Sorry for not being around more the last couple of days, personal life crops up every now and then! SGGH 14:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay good response on my page - you get a silent badge from me for maturity. So first look up to your top left where it says your name, then my talk, then my preferences. Click on my preferences. When the new page opens click on the tab that says editing. At the bottom of the list you will see the words .... Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary click on the box to the left. This will ensure that you can not save unless you put in an edit summary.

Second lets move to your/our DYK. Tonight and tomorrow I want you to find as many external links of quality that you can about Judy Morris. Then I want you to start the article just with the basics, name date of birth etc nothing else because we will put it into a biography format - put in an External References sub-heading and put all of the references you found into that area. Once you have done that let me know - I will reformat a little as soon as I get the chance and then you can do the rest of the editing. We will have 4 and a half days to finalise the article to a DYK point so don't start it until you have done the reading and research. How does that sound? I'll speak to you tomorrow. Cheers until then.-- VS talk 11:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Userpage redesign
Sorry for not responding earlier. In any case, it's a very nice redesign. Thank you! &mdash;Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 23:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Judy Morris
Great start. I have put a bio-template in, adjusted it a little and left it for you to fill in. I am pretty busy at work today so can I ask that you take all of the good lessons that you have learned already and using the three references that you already have work on the article (use plenty of inline references) and I will look at it later today. Cheers and good going.-- VS talk 00:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC) PS Don't worry too much about an image - it is not absolutely necessary generally or for DYK. Just write and check spelling and look for a hook - something particularly fascinating about Judy.-- VS talk
 * That's cool - let's just input what we can definitely attribute to her by verifiable references at this stage and someone in the community will have more detail (I hope) that they will add. BTW have you found a potential hook - something fascinating about her?-- VS  talk 06:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool okay let me look at it all in detail and see if we can find a hook. I will get back to you tomorrow if that's okay because I have so much on tonight?-- VS  talk 09:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

We're quite some way from finished and from reaching a DYK stage but we're getting there. Please could you go into the "works" section and adjust all of the ones below where I have into the same format that I have. I will look a bit later if I can.-- VS talk 10:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No problems at all - tomorrow is fine. Have a good night.-- VS talk 10:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Howdy Harrison - good stuff - I will look at it a bit later if that's okay? I'm wondering about the hook also - at this stage we seem to be saying something like (Did you know) ... That Judy Morris is an Australia actor and she has made movies and films etc - which I think will just receive a "so what" at this stage ... what are your thoughts?-- VS talk 05:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well I wouldn't want to hope for the best (I'm a bit intense that way and like to get things as right as I can rather than just keep my fingers crossed) and we have the whole weekend to play with the article and do research - so I would rather that we find something else - certainly that is what I will be doing to top up your great work and start on this article. Then say Monday or maybe earlier (if we're both happy to put our hands up for a DYK) - I would like to co-nom it under both our names?-- VS  talk 05:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a deal. BTW - did you get a chance to read my latest DYK? (Link near the bottom of my talk page?)-- VS talk 05:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:AUS
Please go to the 'QXZ-Ads' discussion to place a point.

Your images
To be honest, I really don't know anything about the selection of feature pictures as I have never been involved in that area of Wikipedia. If you want some feedback, you can list your pictures on picture peer review and people who are involved with the selection of feature images will let you know what they think and give you advice. In the meanwhile, I added your images to the Blue Mountains article. Sarah 19:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

QXZ-Ads
Greetings Harrison. I hope you're having a good holiday and enjoying the nice weather today. I am indeed a member of the Australian Wikiproject. I am also a member of the Melbourne and Australian Crime projects. Actually, on my userpage under "Projects" is a list of all the Wiki projects that I'm a member of. Why do you ask? Your userpage is looking really good now! You did a good job on it. Cheers, Sarah 04:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I am a member of the Australian project, but I just realised that I'm still listed under my full name (User:Sarah Ewart). I reckon your idea about the ads is a great idea. I think you should go ahead and ask User:Gurch if he would be willing to include WP:AUS. Sarah 04:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed your comment to Sarah about making an advert on Qxz (in relation to my suggestion to ask others first) - in my view by asking Sarah you have asked others and if she thinks it is a good idea also then I say you should go for it - don't hold back BE BOLD! PS What's happening with our Judy article?-- VS  talk 05:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Gurch hasn't left (I just checked his account and he's been editing today). I think he's just stopped using the Qxz account. Anyway, I don't think you really need to wait around to get a response from everyone. You aren't changing to project, just finding a great way to advertise it and so I really can't imagine that anyone would have any objections to it. I'd just message Gurch or Aza or whoever is running the ad project now and see if they'd be willing to create an ad for us. The only person I would suggest you should inform directly is User:Longhair, just as a courtesy because he is the one who single-handedly started the WP:AUS project and spent many weeks creating all the pages and templates etc. Sarah 06:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I've seen QXZ-Ads ads in action on various userpages. Any effort to recruit other members is a good thing IMHO. Perhaps it's a good idea to post a notice of your intentions to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australia prior to going ahead to guage how the community as a whole feels and to formally decide on a suitable banner to use for the purpose? -- Longhair\talk 11:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm all for them... but please ensure there is some form of discussion in choosing the image used.Garrie 12:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Harrison, I think you should talk to Gurch about what happens now. From what I have seen, when a project asks for an ad, he just goes ahead and makes one up. If members want to discuss images to be used, we should find out from Gurch (or whoever is doing it now) if they are firstly, willing to create an ad and if so, what they need from us and how much input people can have with regard to the images etc. Sarah 14:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am, and all I need is the name of the page you want it to link to. Obviously if you want me to use a specific image or whatever then I'll need a link to that, too – Gurch 19:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

As you know I am very supportive of this proposal however I think the record of conversation would be better copied and pasted to here or somewhere else central so that it remains in a more centralised community location for the purpose of promoting general and continuing discussion, lowering the possibility of complaint, and so as to ensure an easily accessible community record.-- VS talk 01:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your question - I have responded in some detail at the centralised location. Cheers!-- VS talk 07:14, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep - am doing so - (it's on my watchlist). Suggest you now directly write to others - anyone that's shown some interest (from Australia) and get them to put down their ideas.-- VS  talk 07:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have put a further response including the suggestions received by myself, you, CJ etc, which I ask that you look at. I suggest you just go for it and put the request into Gurch incorporating the ideas you have received.  (Cause you can't wait for ever for other ideas - and the Advert could be changed later if we want).  Be Bold - as someone recently suggested You can do it!-- VS  talk 01:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No I'm not suggesting the "Snowball March" just using that link to refer to the snowballing effect that Coo-ee had on gaining new recruits - ie: Exactly what we are trying to do with these Ads - gain new recruits. In terms of the colours - I think our Green & Gold colours as per WP Australia banner would be best - they are afterall our national colours.-- VS  talk 02:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Judy Morris
Howdy Harrison - we are now co-nominated here for a DYK regarding Judy Morris. I have rewritten the article a bit and managed to find a few photos that should assist. Keep your fingers crossed that you will get your first DYK approval in the next few days.-- VS talk 02:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I very much appreciate and thank you for the barnstar. I agree with the B rating - although I never rate anything I substantially write past a start class on the basis of ethical objectiveness. I'm hoping and looking forward to you receiving a DYK tag. It will be a few days yet but we'll keep our fingers crossed....-- VS  talk 05:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK
There you go congratulations Harrison!-- VS talk 11:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey there Harrison - just to let you know that your awards drop down isn't working - it's like clicking through to an article on wiki? Cheers!-- VS talk 07:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Just had a look - they both seem to be working fine now. I can see them both.-- VS talk 07:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * A-ha - okay I get your question. All fixed for you now. Cheers!-- VS  talk 09:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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re:userpage
I like it! Glad to see you got your DYK too. I like your drop down boxes and all the user boxes. Looks good. Any other questions just let me know (though am on holiday for a little while now). SGGH 07:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK congrats
No worries, Harrison. Congratulations on your DYK! Well done! You are doing a really good job and seem to be finding your way around very well. Have a nice evening and I hope you're having a good week at school. :) Sarah 09:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Award
Thanks Hmains 03:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Werdnabot
No problems at all Harrison, it's not actually mine of course but a manipulation of other material by some brilliant editors and a little touch of my own creativity. You will need to adjust some of the content because otherwise it will not link to your archive pages - and remove the image to the top left else you will have a caricature of me on your page (but you could put your favourite car there or of course no image).-- VS talk 01:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

User page
You're welcome to use the user page design; after all, Wikipedia is licensed under the GFDL. However, if you don't mind, could you make your page look a bit different? It's nothing seriously, just that two nearly-identical pages is not that grand of an idea. &mdash;Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 01:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me asking
Hi Harrison - Out of curiosity of your method for assessing a GA article - Can I ask if you went through all of the steps on this page when you re-assessed the Brisbane Broncos article? To be slightly more direct - I do not think it is quite at GA - for example it lacks inline referencing at one or two parts where it makes quite substantial statements on behalf of fans. Also there are spacing errors, punctuation errors, referencing errors etc. Can you get back to me ASAP as I think it will need to be readjusted. (Sorry but GA is very difficult grade to achieve and it is important that we don't de-sensitise the process.)-- VS talk 02:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Absolutely no need to be sorry Harrison - I'm not trying to admonish you. It just seemed to me that you may have missed a couple of steps.  It is probably important not to leave it as a GA for too long so I hope you don't mind but I am going to revert it back to B class and indicate that I will give some ideas of what needs to be done to get it to GA.  An example of the sort of (appropriate) detail required both in terms of assessing and in terms of notes regarding assessment can be found on Talk:Riverina.  You will develop further assessment skills as you continue to write more of your own articles.  Cheers and thanks for your quick response.-- VS  talk 02:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, sticking my nose in as per usual. :) You're doing a good job, Harrison, so don't feel discouraged or anything. If you follow the GA criteria on the page that Steve linked to you'll be fine. A while ago someone started this thing called WP:1FA. Basically, it was a requirement for adminship that said that all admin candidates must have contributed to a feature article. Fortunately, the idea of rejecting someone because they hadn't written a feature article was never widely accepted and the page is now only kept for historical interest. However, you still sometimes see people oppose a candidate: "Oppose 1FA" if the candidate hasn't contributed to a feature article. And it started people thinking about the actual article contributions of candidates, not just their edit count. And now you will often see candidates or their nominators state that they have contributed to x number of good articles, feature articles and DYKs, so it is important that we get the assessments done right and fair. My own RfA picked up opposes because I did not have any feature articles or GAs. Sarah 04:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict - Thanks for comments Sarah) Howdy Harrison, Just letting you know (because of your interest and for your future GA assessment reference) that I've had the chance to give Bronco's a reasonably full assessment. I've put GA on hold and nominated 18 further minimum adjustments here that the editors need to make to get closer to GA status. Cheers! Keep up your editing and your interest in assessment - BTW what is your next major article (now that you're a DYK recipient you should go for another one!!)-- VS talk 04:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

1000 Edits

 * Congratulations - that's not a bad start at all. Also I note you working with a co-editor on actually getting the last little bit of Brisbane Broncos to GA.  Please note I am about to respond to at User talk:SpecialWindler.  I think you could probably help him/her a bit more and that he/she would appreciate it.-- VS  talk 08:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Woohoo! Congratulations, Harrison, that's fantastic. The first 1,000 edits is a big accomplishment and you've certainly come a long way since I first noticed you adding the s-prot tag to the Ellen Fanning article!

You are also now an "apprentice" and are entitled to this service award:



All the best for the next one thousand! Sarah 08:59, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Cool - some nice shiny things for your awards page - you deserve them!-- VS talk 11:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries Harrison. I'm glad you liked them! :) Yes, I have noticed your userpage, it's looking really good. Hope you're having a good weekend. Cheers, Sarah 03:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Brisbane Broncos now reassessed
Hi there Harrison, I thought you might like to know that I have reassessed the Brisbane Broncos article following completion of all items of review. Comments are placed on the articles talk page. An appropriate date-linked template has been added. Article is graded as GA - and I'm sure you will agree an excellent effort by all and particularly user:SpecialWindler. Cheers.-- VS talk 04:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Scratchpad
Hi Gurch. Please feel free to use my new scratchpad for experimenting. Harrison-HB4026 09:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. Those of us who need user subpages for testing or temporary use already have them, and use them regularly. (I had about twenty of them at one point). Why would anyone use someone else's subpage on which arbitrary rules have been imposed, when they can create their own without such restrictions? Furthermore, I'd appreciate it if you didn't spam the talk pages of everyone you know with this sort of message. Mass messaging in this way should only be done when users have explicity requested it. Thanks – Gurch 12:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

re:scratchpad
Well, I can understand when he says not to "spam" everyones talk pages, and when you are an established user you won't need to do anything like that. But as a new user, I think it's helpful for you to get some kind of "validation" if you like, when you are just starting out. Hence why I suggested the Did You Know for your first article, if you see William Nolde you will see that my first ever article was DYK'd and it motivated me to become a contributing member to wikipedia. :) SGGH 07:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Though as he said you are most likely to find that it will be for you to store your own work, as most users have their own, but nonetheless many users tell me how useful a private sandbox is! SGGH 12:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Andrew Rochford
Well since your asking, firstly it's great to see you editing articles (rather than only user/page talk page/scratchpad stuff). The article needs a complete spell check and grammar check - try reading the article aloud to yourself and you will hear what I mean immediately (remember you are show casing yourself), then it needs fleshing out in a number of parts which have very little information, it needs to be re-organised particularly in the biography section (which should be broken down into a couple of sub-headings when you have more material) and follow a chronological sequence, and finally you need to fix the interests section - it reads like either original research or POV so if you have a reference etc then that will help - but remember the rules on biographical articles on living persons. PS I had to reassess the article - it wasn't a start just yet but when you are finished totally let me know again and I will have another look at the assessment for you. -- VS talk 23:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Quite a lot better. Has just reached Start Class and I have reassessed accordingly.  However is still around 150 or more "content" characters short of a DYK application - which requires a minimum of 1500else they fail it automatically.  I suggest that you keep researching (would be nice to actually find his date or at the very least year of birth, is he married, children?) - you still have a couple of days before you must submit to DYK again. Cheers-- VS  talk 07:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:MOTD
Thank you for supporting my motto. Harrison-HB4026 23:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure! I just wish more people figured out that they "can do it"! You wouldn't believe the number of people at the Help Desk we get every day whining about an error that they can easily fix themselves. Hersfold (talk/work) 01:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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Potentially your next DYK
There you go Harrison. You had the skeleton of the article next to perfect but it needed a bit more work to find a few more things out. I rewrote it a little bit for you, added some further detail, wrote the references in a nice schmick way (including access date), fixed a couple of typos and included a few more links. All in all it has jumped from around 1350 characters to 2740 characters (including the bit extra you put in tonight which I put back in also). So I think you have a pretty good chance and I have renominated it for you. Cheers. Keep editing!-- VS talk 10:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How are things going Harrison? Are you back at school this week?  What's new?-- VS  talk 09:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice to hear from you Harrison. I hope your house moving is going fine and I assume you are excited about the prospect of a new DYK?  Yes I did notice your conversation with Chicken 7. As for me - well I will be off-line for the next couple of days - travelling to Melbourne and watching the AFL.  Let me know how things go with Andrew Rochford.  Take care.-- VS  talk 10:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Rugby Legaue
Replying to your question about rugby league related articles, i may, i have a book called "The History of Rugby League Clubs" by Ian Collis and Alan Whitaker which talks about every club in history of the game, so, I might not help all the time but ... SpecialWindler 07:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, Nice to meet you Harrisson. I don't need any help right now but I'll be sure to drop a line when I do. Thanks. By the way your userpage is really good. Chicken7 09:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:You Can Do It?
Motd policy prevents two similar mottos from being approved, to avoid redundancy. I'm sorry to say that it's a rule that's nearly always followed. I'm not saying that your motto is bad, just that it cannot be approved because someone else thought of it first. However, if you wish to argue that your motto is different from the first nomination, you are more than welcome to do so. -- Tewy  00:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

(Copied from User talk:Tewy) Ok, how about Lets do it? Harrison-HB4026 08:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added an edit with your idea on the nominations page. -- Tewy  06:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Harrison
Hey Harrison, I hope you're having a good weekend. Thanks for you message, I have seen the lyrics for that song before but I did not know there was an audio file of it. I'll be sure to check it out. :)

You mentioned that you would like to meet other editors your age. I'm not really sure how old you are, but I have the impression that you're around 16 or 17? If so, I can introduce you to some fantastic people in that age group. Daniel Bryant and Michael Billington are in that age group and they are both Australian administrators. Michael is from Victoria and Danny lives in Adelaide now, but he has also lived on the Central Coast of NSW. Riana is a lovely person and I'll leave her a message introducing you because I think she would be an excellent contact for you anyway. If I'm not correct about your age group, just let me know and I'll think of some other editors to introduce you to. Cheers mate, Sarah 05:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow! I'm really surprised to hear that you're that old. I would never have guessed your age. I seriously thought you were around 16-ish! You and your folks should take that as a big compliment. :) I'll have to think of some editors closer to your age. We have a Bureaucrat who is, or was, 14 (he may have turned 15 by now and I know there are others around but sadly most seem very immature and end up being banned. We just recently had to community ban a 12-year-old Australian boy who was wrecking havoc and being really disruptive. Anyway, I left Riana a message and she said she had already noticed you and your good work and she'll drop by and say g'day later.
 * Oh, and congratulations on your new DYK: the way you're going you'll be setting a DYK record! Sarah 11:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by a "DYK medal"? Is this a particular award or are you talking about the DYK banner like the one Carabinieri gave you below? You will have to explain further what you are asking me. And you're the one with the poor taste in football codes. :-p Sarah 13:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Harrison, pleased to meet you! Sorry that we're all such old farts :) But you should take it as a compliment! Tell ya what, though - there are a coupla users here who are around your age, although I'm not sure how active they are. Anyway, we're all pretty childish at heart :) Glad to see you enjoying Wikipedia, and congratulations on your DYKs! If you need a hand with anything, or just want to have a chat about something, I'm around. Take care, – Riana ऋ 13:31, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

 * Just back from Melb. Tired but having a bit of a look around before I close off until tomorrow.  You're champion Harrison - 2 DYK's so early in the piece.  Keep up the *bloody* good work!-- VS  talk 09:15, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

QXZ - Ads
Hello Andrew Hampe, I am User: HB4026 and I was wondering if you could create a qxz ad for WikiProject Australia (I asked Gurch but to no avail). If you would like to could you please ask me for more details? Thankyou Harrison-HB4026 11:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. I can get to it on Tuesday, as the software is at my school. But first, I need an idea of what I'll need to make. What do you want to communicate to the users who see this ad? How do you want to say it? Do you have a logo or a background image I could use? Do you want it to be flashy or minimal? Contact me when you have your ideas nailed down. --Andrew Hampe Talk 13:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Andrew. Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I have worked out what I would like:
 * With the colours, I would like the bakground to be Green and Gold, which are the Australian Colours (Not Metallic Gold).
 * I would then like the Image:Flag of Australia.svg to fade in on the left and Image:City locator blank-MJC.png to fade in on the right. A couple of seconds later I want both images to fade out.
 * Then I would I would then like the text to read as follows (I would like the text transition to fade in like the Armenia project text):


 * 1) COO-EEE!!!
 * 2) Interested in projects related to Australia?
 * 3) Join WikiProject Australia
 * P.S. I am not sure what font colour would be good, but just use your judgement and it should be fine.
 * Thanks alot Harrison-HB4026 06:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I'll get to it on Tuesday (I hope). Btw, what's "COO-EEE" mean? --Andrew Hampe Talk 13:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, I think, maybe we should use "Cooee!!" spelling, without the hyphen, because that's where the Wiki article is. People don't have to be Australian to join the project, they just need to have an interest in Australia and I think many non-Australians will wonder, like Andrew, what the heck it means. And since we have an article on it, we should probably follow that spelling. Just a thought, guys. :) Cheers, Sarah 11:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, np. I'll just copy my comment over to his talk page. By the way, how come Andrew is doing it and not Gurch? I thought Gurch said he would do it? I don't mind who does it or anything, just wondering. Have a good break mate, Sarah 11:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Andrew. As someone standing on the periphery and having discussed this with Harrison, whilst watching his brilliant level of enthusiasm and follow up - can I just offer my support if you need anything (whilst Harrison is away for a couple of weeks moving house and Sarah (is trying hard) to have a break).  Please just let me know at any time if I can assist and where I can I will.  PS It was my idea initially to put Coo-eee in the advert but I agree totally with Sarah's altered view that it should be Cooee. (I wasn't clever enough to look to see if there was an article about the word).  Cheers-- VS  talk 12:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok. I've been having "trouble" at school so it might be awhile before I can work on this, but I had a thought of how the ads would be. My idea would be like a map of the world and then " Cooee!!!" would appear over Australia, and it would zoom into to show something like, "Spread the word! WikiProject Australia needs help! If you are interested in Australia, click here to join." what do you guys think? --Andrew Hampe Talk 02:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

That sounds promising Andrew. Hope your trouble at school clears up soon.-- VS talk 03:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikibreak
Thanks for informing me Harrison - hope all goes well with the move. Cheers-- VS talk 05:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Harrison, thanks for letting me know about your wikibreak. I hope the moving goes well and that you and your family get settle into your new place quickly. Also, thanks for showing me the medal award. I have never seen that one before. I think you should give it to him, though, because he would have seen on my talk page that it was your idea. I think he would take it as a sincere and genuine compliment and acknowledgment and appreciation of his work, not a "suckup" or anything like that. :) Take care and enjoy your break. Cheers mate, Sarah 11:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, I understand that but you gave them to him about two and three weeks ago and for different reasons, not for recognition of his DYK work. Also, the cookie image usually isn't considered an actual barnstar or award like the DYK medal and The Original Barnstar Award that you gave him last time. Lots of people give the cookie image to each other as a friendship gift or to say thanks, goodluck, get well, or anything you like really. Honestly, I think it would be fine for you to give him the DYK medal if you wish to, but after that you might want to have a break before giving him another one! ;D It would mean more coming from you since you're the one who thought of it and wanted to give it to him. If I give it to him, it would just be like you're giving it to him vicariously through me, anyway, since he has, no doubt, read your comments on my talk page about it. Sarah 11:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, have a good move! SGGH speak! 12:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)