User talk:HarryCane

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Nothing Gold Can Stay Query
I appreciate your messaging me but I don't understand why what I did was "all wrong" and something that I "Can't Do". The album is named for the poem which pre-dates it by several years, it makes no sense to have an article based upon a name-sake, reference to 'Nothing Gold Can Stay' as the main article and the original work and source of the name as a subsiduary article. An original work will clearly take precedent over later references to the work in any encylopaedia, the New Found Glory article being there first makes no difference to this. You also did a very messy job on your revert, needlessly removing clearly pertinent links to Robert Frost and his poem as well as leaving many links going to the wrong place which you didn't bother to fix. If you're going to make changes you could at least do so without reducing the usefulness of numerous other articles in the process.

Nothing Gold Can Stay redux
Hello, HarryCane. I thought I'd inform you that User:MagicBez has requested outside assistance at WP:MEDCAB regarding the article Nothing Gold Can Stay. I just wanted to run a suggestion by you, and see if you'd be alright with it.

You were correct in reverting his change to the article, as he cut and pasted the text rather than properly moving the entire thing. However, I don't think the article should stay where it is. I would personally change it to a disambiguation page, with the current text moved to Nothing Gold Can Stay (album) and with Robert Frost's poem at Nothing Gold Can Stay (poem). Are you okay with that?  Rob e  rt  T 05:25, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

P.S. (I also left a note on MagicBez's talk page about this as well.)

NGCS (aside)
Just to satisfy my own curiosity, what was the "false information" that I put into the album article?MagicBez 05:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

NGCS (aside)
I'll do a google later and find an interview where the band talk about it. It's a very famous poem and the album (and album cover image) are a direct reference to the message of the poem. Chances are that they referenced it via the Outsiders "stay gold ponyboy" and all that but that's where the title comes from.

NGCS (aside)
OK a very quick google search turned up this quote from the QandA section of newfoundglory.com: "I was sitting in English class the other day and my teacher gave us a poem to read... Nothing Gold Can Stay by Robert Frost and I was wondering if you named your album after that or is it totally irrelevant? (asked by dropkicktims)" STEVE: Indirectly it is named after the poem, but we really did it because of the movie "The Outsiders."

A Google cache of the site can be found at: Am I OK to edit this back into the article now?

Members x Line-up
While it is perfectly fine to use Members, that's what we normally use for "groups". In the case of "bands", we generally use Line-up. Regards, --Sn0wflake 16:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have nothing to do with that project overthrown by clueless newbies, and as such, consider anything which comes from it as non-canon. Do whatever you want, this encyclopedia is coming apart anyway. Nobody gives a fuck anymore. Forget I gave you a suggestion. --Sn0wflake 16:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

The Starting Line Spam?
Hey, I wasn't trying to spam anything, A bunch of people messaged me from livejournal and recommended that I change the picture, as they thought it was better than what was up there previously... No harm meant :-)

User:HarryCane/images
Hi, since we are not allowed to display fair use images on user pages and user subpages (see Fair use) I took the liberty of turning your image gallery into a list of links instead. If any of them where free licensed feel free to place those images in a gallery, but leave the fair use ones as a list. Thanks. --Sherool (talk) 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

hellogoodbye Lowercase title
The band's name is not capitalized. It should be hellogoodbye and not Hellogoodbye. I had changed all of the problems with the capitalization until you decided it was necessary to undo everything I did. If you need proof, here are some sites that can prove it; --Russ is the sex 17:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
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This Disaster DVD Cover
Thanks for getting a better picture. It looks a lot better. Sharpdust 17:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay...
So I guess it's okay for others to keep editing information you scold me about, incorrectly I may add. Right. Whatever. RattleandHum

Lanemeyer
The info you requested on Lanemeyer's "Songs We Hated The Least"

18 tracks, was given away for free at their FIRST reunion show, dated December 26, 2003. CDR with a b&w printed label, slimline jewel case. No sleeve or sleeve art. Track list is as follows:


 * 1) Another Lonely Winter
 * 2) Broken Dream November
 * 3) Figure It Out
 * 4) For Britt
 * 5) Fuck You And Your Boyfriend
 * 6) Grovers Corners NJ
 * 7) Long Letter Goodbye
 * 8) My Very Own Winnie Cooper
 * 9) Socko In The Ring
 * 10) Take Two
 * 11) Thursday
 * 12) What A Shitty Summer
 * 13) Where's My Letter
 * 14) With Or Without You
 * 15) Don't Hate Me
 * 16) CKone
 * 17) Me And You On The Big Screen
 * 18) (Bonus Song) Day At The Fair - Eastern Homes and Western Hearts

If you're going to make changes to the article, please post them on the discussion page first. Thanks! TearJohnDown 22:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Starting Line tracks
Where is this Wikipedia policy you speak of? And what common usage are you referring to? Every band page I see on here lists songs that are not on any of their albums. I don't understand what the problem is. These songs were recorded for "Based on a True Story" but were cut when the album was released. They have since been RELEASED BY THE BAND on their webpages. It's not like these songs are bootlegged live recordings or anything like that. I'll put this in the Starting Line discussion page and see what others have to say so this dispute can be worked out. User:12.5.1.207 14:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

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P!ATD "I Write Sins, Not Tragedies" page
Thanks for cleaning that up, I appreciate it.

P!ATD Formation Date
The band formed in 2004, please do not revert my change!

Yellowcard
Hi, there! I saw that you've contributed to the Yellowcard page. I've been working hard all weekend to get it into an encyclopedia-worthy article, and I think we're almost there!

There's a short list of things that still need some work at the bottom of the talk page. If you could take a look at it, maybe add more things to do, or clean up whatever you see needs work, I would sure appreciate it.

Thanks for your help. Have an awesome day! Cathryn 10:06, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The All-American Rejects
Please do not revert my copyediting on this article. I realized that you are the primary contributor on that article, but you do not own the article. Therefore, let other people make necessary (especially copyediting) style changes. You reverted a good faith edit and treated as if it was vandalism. Also, you accused me of changing the genre, which I did not. I only changed the prose to say rock band instead of power pop. "Rock band" is what they are and I don't consider that a genre. Please reply here on your talk page if you have any questions or comments for me. Thanks. Sarbox 17:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, with power pop being a subgenre of rock and roll, changing power pop band to rock band is an unnecessary generalisation of the type of music the band plays. And the em dash is not used in this context, to keep the article on par with other band and album articles (see the guidelines). Hence, changing it is most definitely not a "necessary style change". Manual of Style (dashes) also gives insight on when to use which dash (in this case: "Em dashes are sometimes used incorrectly to separate lists of items from their definitions."). I'm changing it back, but if you still disagree, we should take this discussion to Talk:The All-American Rejects. --HarryCane 17:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:RushmoreLogo.jpg
The image does have a source, it says it's the logo of Rushmore Records, wich means it's copyrighted by Rushmore Records, that's all we need to know. Sure yes it doesn't spesify an URL, but a bit of common sense can be applied to these things. The source is supposed to tell us who own the copyright to this image, and in this case saying who's logo it is is sufficient, the company own the copyright to theyr logo regardles of where the image was downloaded from or who drew that particular version of it. See for example Category talk:Images with unknown source for a relevant discussion about this. --Sherool (talk) 12:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Copied from my talk page. --Sherool (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The description "The logo for the Record Label Rushmore Records" does not qualify as a detailed source description. The -tag even tells you to add a fair use rationale and a description of the work's source and copyright status. Also, the PUI-tag says not to remove it while the question is being considered. As far as Possibly_unfree_images goes, it still is, so the tag shouldn't be removed. --HarryCane 15:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure the source could have been better, but it does not qualify as "no source" either. Applying common sense is allowed, we know it's the logo of Rushmore Records and therefore copyrighted by Rushmore Records, exactly what about the copyright status do you consider to be unclear? There are a lot of gray area cases, but IMHO this and most other logos are not one of them (see Template talk:No source for another related discussion). I just think your efforts could be better spent on genuinely problematic images, like making sure fair use in... type images have fair use rationales, since there is an actual policy to delete those if they don't have a rationale (see no rationale), of tracking down images that have no source and where the origin is not self-evident. --Sherool (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Although no consensus was reached in the end, I still wanted to thank you for your vote in my recent RfA. Thank you very much. Fritz S. (Talk) 17:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

The Parachute

 * If anything, the mention should be merged into hellogoodbye. The speedy delete was not necesary, no need to get so pissed off.--Russ is the sex 01:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was a tad angry that day. No worries, happy now. I'll add the source, it's Forrest himself.--Russ is the sex 14:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Question about your page move
Hi, I had a question about your page move of Cute Is What We Aim For to Cute Is What We Aim for. You referenced Naming conventions as the reason for this change, however, this policy states, "In titles of songs or albums, unless it is unique, the standard rule in the English language is to capitalize words that are the first or the last word in the title and those that are not conjunctions (and, but, or, nor, for)..." Since this is not a song or album but instead the band's name, it seems this policy would not apply. Would you have any concerns about reverting this? Regards, Accurizer 12:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your response on my talk page. I posted a question regarding this policy at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions because I think either way, the policy could be made more clear. Please take a look at the way I phrased the question and add to it or comment if you would like. Thanks. Regards, Accurizer 12:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The "last word" part may have escaped you because I added it to the guideline recently :-) I did it because all the capitalization guidelines I found on the Internet recommend capitalizing the last word of a title (for example see  ). Nobody opposed to this change so I guess it's OK. Jogers (talk) 13:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Allister
They are stubs because there are no personnel/credits listed; producers, engineers, additional musicians etc Jubella 17:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

rxbandits
dude, get over yourself. you are no authority of wikipedia. cool your jets son. Love, Myxomatosis 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

yeah will do. I never said you were wrong though... on a side note are you sure the new Rx Bandits was released? The reason being is because it has a street date in October. I know they wanted to release it now but they had a posting on their site saying it was in October. -Myxomatosis 20:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

nice, I won't have the money to see them on their current tour so I pre-ordered it too. It's probably their best work. Although I am very partial to Progress. Should be put October 10, as a release date too then? -Myxomatosis 20:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Something Corporate
Thanks for reverting my changes to the Something Corporate page, reguarding the song "If You C Jordan." You stated your caps are according to the Audioboxer EP. Need I remind you of Wikipedia's capitalisation policies for bands, albums, and song titles? I think you already know yourself judging by what you left on user Russ_is_the_sex's page. "I reverted your edits to the Zombies! Aliens! Vampires! Dinosaurs! article. On Wikipedia, we go by guidelines for song titles and section headers, not by the capitalisation posted on the band's official homepage. Regards, HarryCane 16:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)"

I will go ahead and revert to my previous correct changes. Thanks.

-68.90.192.190 17:41, 8 July 2006


 * If you see WP:NC, you will notice that it clearly says:


 * Convention: In band names and titles of songs or albums, unless it is unique, the standard rule in the English language is to capitalize words that are the first or the last word in the title ...


 * Meaning, the song "iF yoU C Jordan" has a unique capitalisation intentional by the artist (the intention being emphasizing the letters to spell out "FUC Jordan"). The hellogoodbye situation was entirely different, as it was just messed up due to a different style guide the homepage was using, and by no means an official unique spelling. Have a good day, HarryCane 11:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Question about vandal IP
You said that vandal IP you told me about created Atticus675 as an account. Was a Request for CheckUser run and came up conclusive? Get back to me when you find that out. Also, I recommend posting a notice about that IP at Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents. That's more than simple vandalism, and an admin may be able to do more than I can. Good luck. --Mr. L e fty Talk to me! 17:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

More P!atD
Consider talking about removed wiki band style templates off page before removing because of your disinterest in one user Hackajar 12:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Look, if you take a look at the suggestion I made on Talk:Panic! at the Disco, that was a whole day before you voted on the The_Only_Difference_Between_Martyrdom_And_Suicide_Is_Press_Coverage deletion debate. And even if it wasn't, I couldn't care less what for or if at all you voted. If you would also look at my contributions history, I reverted your edits to the Panic! at the Disco article before I even took a look at your talk page and saw you blanked it &mdash; I didn't even know you voted on the deletion debate. Not because of my so-called "disinterest in one user", but because you made a whole mess of the discography, I reverted your changes. Here are some of your mistakes:
 * "#24 Australia" shouldn't be in the column U.K. album-chart position
 * excessive overlinking of years
 * excessive overlinking of A Fever You Can't Sweat Out
 * why making a U.S. and U.K. sales column with no content?
 * you made a seperate section for "Other Charts" (which btw shouldn't be capitalised), thus listing every single twice, even though "Lying Is the Most Fun a Girl Can Have without Taking Her Clothes Off" didn't chart on any other charts


 * Please understand, I did none of these edits to spite you, only to constructively add to the article's appearance and clarity. If you want to make these kinds of changes, you need to discuss it first on the talk page, especially when a discussion concerning that matter has already been started. --HarryCane 12:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * See my talk page for responses (and google 'hackajar' sometime I'm not some snooty wiki squatter) Hackajar 13:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I noticed you were a Wiki Admin, so sorry about all this...Oh wait, your NOT nevermind Hackajar 15:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Removal of your speedy tag
Hey -- apparently it is an image from a music video. I agree the fair use claim is not being used properly, but CSD I7 only goes so far. For instance, if it had been tagged with logo, which is truly patently unrelated to the image, I would have deleted it. Unfortunately in cases like this, speedy deletion is not the answer. However, I'm going to go remove it from any articles it is used improperly in, and mark it as orphaned if I remove it from all of them. Mango juice talk 14:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Celebrity Impersonation?
Who said I wasn't? I'm just bored while we're not doing anything in Europe. Not changing my name.

-Jon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jon Walker (talk • contribs).

Panic! At the Disco
I understand naming conventions, however, P!ATD's name has "At" capitalized. It is found this way on all official websites and releases. I think that overrules Wikipedia's naming conventions. Evan Reyes 20:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Your threats to tattle on me to daddy do not scare me. I believe that if the band chooses to name themselves Panic! At the Disco, that should be reflected on wikipedia. Evan Reyes 19:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't edited anyone's comments. I don't know where the hell you came up with that, but if you're trying to falsely accuse me of something because I did so with you, I just want you to know that I was only joking. --Scotteh 12:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see what you mean. Don't feel bad, I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes I freak out too it's totally human. But that still doesn't justify my actions. Perhaps it was wrong to change the depths of the comments because, even though the content stays the same, people will then misread the comments' context. Hope my English is understandable --Scotteh 14:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Cartel interview
So how is it that the Highwire Daze interview is deleted yet another one still stands? Is that other interview not "Spam" as well or perhaps it is from your own personal website? I am reinserting the Cartel interview from Highwire Daze as it is more recent than the other interview you have kindly left on. There is news from the Warped Tour as well as comments about what could be their forthcoming album. Citing a current interview as a "spam warning" is ridiculous when you let another stand. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kenmorton (talk • contribs).

Ahem
Please don't ever talk to me or monitor my activity again. Evan Reyes 19:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I second that. Interviews on bands should be perfectly okay to go up on their Wikipedia pages. Quit being so anal about yours. And quit monitoring my activity as well. In short - get a life! Ken Morton 9:00, 18 August 2006


 * I'm not monitoring anybody's activity. Please see WP:STALK on what is allowed and what is not (your "Get a life"-comment is most certainly not). But if I return to a talk page I have recently left a comment on and find it blanked, I revert it. That's Wikipedia policy, sorry. And about the interview links, Ken, please see WP:EL, especially §3, as you are not to post your links. If you continue violating WP policies, you are likely to be reported and blocked. --HarryCane 16:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

You really need to be less concerned with what other people are choosing to do and more concerned with your own efforts to improve and maintain Wikipedia. It's not your place to police other peoples' pages (or revert, or return to a talk page, or whatever series of words you choose to describe it to make it sound more amicable). If you were an admin or somebody in a position of power, then I might respect your policing. However, I do not believe in vigilante justice, and think that you should really not be wasting your time checking up on me. Evan Reyes 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Panic! At The Disco Genre
I would say that a consensus was not agreed upon. Half of the comments on the page were anonymous trolls that said "Panic! At The Disco SuckS! So there not emo", or "Emo sucks, so panic! at the disco is not emo". I would say that nothing there was official, and you have no right to tell any other editor what to put there. I'll just leave it as Alternative Rock with dance influences, but I wouldn't suggest telling other editors what to do. Thanks. -- Die Hard  2k5  21:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Mediation at Talk:Panic! at the Disco
Hi - I'm sorry I didn't leave a message here to let you know about the mediation case. It was on my list of things to do last night and I thought I had, but it seems I got distracted.

I assumed you were a party to the mediation, and included you in the process, because I thought you had added the section at the top of the talk page called 'Currently Being Mediated'. In fact, that section was added by Hackajar. He added comments above and below your edit about archiving the genre debate, so it was probably causing confusion for others too. I have tagged it with for clarification. Also, I took your name off the mediation case today, and I've asked Hackajar if he wants to continue with mediation – it looks like an consensus has been reached to put it as "Power pop", but all the players may not have weighed in yet.

Again, sorry about the confusion. Have a good weekend – Baseball  Baby  02:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

"The End of an Anchor" italics
Please forgive me if this is not a proper place to respond to your message, as i have yet to communicate with anyone on wikipedia and don't fully understand how to. My apologies for the italicizing, i was merely attemping to conform the listing to match the italicization of the Vindicated sing mention a few lines above it. thank you very much for informing me of the three revisions rule as i was not aware of it!

the Krayon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Krayon (talk • contribs).

ol and li
I try and skip any with an  on the simple run and do them semi-manually. If you spot any in time, just revert and drop me a note. Rich Farmbrough, 14:45 17 September 2006 (GMT).

Telegraphs in Negative/Mouths Trapped in Static
Have a look at this, and see if you think the complicated numbering system is necessary. Rich Farmbrough, 15:10 17 September 2006 (GMT).

Additional personnel on albums
Hey there - I noticed a while back that you removed some information I put on the ...And the Battle Begun page. I'm not sure the reasoning for the removal, as all of the information was factual, and perhaps instead cleaning it up or whatnot. I feel that the information is important to people who are fans of the band, as Rx Bandits has a following that seems to bleed over into similar or related work, i.e. that of the producers and artists working on the record. I asked over at the WP:Albums Project and they seemed to agree that including information like this was a personal preference, but if someone had taken the time to add it, they would normally leave it. Anyhow, I just wanted to hear your opinion. Shuckiduck 07:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Rob Freeman.jpg
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...
Please never contact me again in any way, regardless of any edits I may make. I have absolutely zero interest in what you have to say. Evan Reyes 21:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Tough luck if you have a personal aversion against me. However, it won't stop me from informing users if they breach Wikipedia policies. Sorry. --HarryCane 11:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

theAUDITION
is there a reason you deleted the band background for this article? I understand the copyright issues with the images, but not things like history —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nick.dilallo@gmail.com (talk • contribs).
 * If the material is copied from the official website, it's still a copyright violation. Copyright laws apply to text just as they do to images. --HarryCane 11:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

My fault-- I didn't know it had been copied from the website. Thanks for clarifying. Nick.dilallo@gmail.com 18:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

More replaceable fair use images

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 * Image:Self Against City.jpg
 * Image:Sing The Body Electric Promo.jpg
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 * Image:Something Corporate.jpg
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 * Image:The Starting Line.jpg
 * Image:Yellowcard.jpg

&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  03:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your edits to The All-American Rejects
Why did you remove the genre of Pop punk? As far as I am concerned, they are quite pop punk. Google also finds significant use for this: "Results 1 - 10 of about 562,000 for All-American Rejects pop punk. (0.10 seconds)" Please consider this. Meanwhile, I am re-adding the genre. ► Adriaan90 ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) ♪♫ 17:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Additionally, see their Last.fm profile. Cheers. ► Adriaan90 ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) ♪♫ 17:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The Starting Line
I have again removed sing365 from this page per WP:EL. This site uses submissions only (nothing original) to augment its advertising and cannot be linked from Wikipedia. Please write me if you have any questions. RadioKirk (u|t|c)  14:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That should do, thank you. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c)  14:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Something Corporate
I replied on my talk page. – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. By the way, I've put some thoughts together at User:Quadell/non-free photos of bands. If you have an opinion and want to weigh in, I'd value your input. All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 20:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Jimmy Eat World
Hey I see you added the bonus tracks and import versions etc. for Jimmy Eat Worlds "Futures" album. I was just wondering, where did you get the information on the 6 bonus Japanese deluxe tracks? I'm trying to track album down to purchase online, but can't seem to find it. Any help would be much appreciated —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.238.84.108 (talk • contribs).
 * I ordered my copy from Amazon Japan. It's quite expensive to order it including international shipping, but I found it well worth the money. Here are two links to online retailers that carry the CD: Amazon and HMV. And even though it lists 14 traks on both CDs, the second disc has 17 (as in the Futures (album) article). --HarryCane 17:11, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you so much! I will buy this from Amazon jp. Also, perhaps you should mention the track listing (14 instead of 17 on Amazon) on the Futures (album) article. It may help more people trying to find this album. Thanks again! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.236.178.190 (talk • contribs).

Senses Fail
I personally think it has to do with the article, its the same as putting the bestbuy bounus tracks. So i think then the bestbuy tracks should be erased, also someone else uploaded it again. thus proving it should be part of the article. its not saying its part of the cd, simply showing the b-side info. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xtbs7645x (talk • contribs).

They were listed as b-sides and not as 17-19. How exactly would that confuse people? They were recorded during the recording of the cd, if you look at many band pages. The b-sides are listed, what makes this diffrent? I think this should be part of the article and if you chose to be a "bad" person and erase it thats your problem. Also that was not me who posted it, i wouldn't hide behind an IP address. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xtbs7645x (talk • contribs).

Jack's Mannequin
They haven't been released on an album, which makes them non-album tracks. CJMylentz 07:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Those very recordings haven't, true that. But all these songs are on Everything in Transit. See other band articles (Something Corporate, The Starting Line, New Found Glory, hellogoodbye, etc.), which never list demos, live recordings or unreleased music among their non-album track sections. Take it easy. --HarryCane 13:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * First of all, don't ask me to "take it easy". Second, if it is a different song then what it is on the album, doesn't that make it a "non-album" track?  I might not be a rocket scientist, but I do understand words. CJMylentz 10:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Calm down, alright. First off, I didn't mean "Take it easy" in a harmful way whatsoever. More in a "Take care"/"Keep it up" kinda way, so there's no need to get worked up about it. Anyway. Second, I had this very discussion over "non-album tracks" at Talk:The Starting Line. It's simply impractical to list every recording ever done of album tracks within "Non-album tracks" sections. Because if you list this recording &mdash; which was never officially released with the backing of his label (only in horrendous quality on a website) &mdash; why not list every single bootleg recording and YouTube video of this and any other song McMahon has played at Jack's Mannequin shows? And if not, then there's the question of where to draw the line for what goes in there and what does not. Judging by the quality of the recording? By the person who recorded it? If you start listing different versions of album tracks under "Non-album tracks", that makes for incredibly long and incoherent lists, containing loads of items most people wouldn't consider non-album tracks per se. Third, I really don't know where this all is suddenly coming from, a whole month after the initial issue arose. --HarryCane 12:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I really don't appreciate you telling me to calm down. Four tracks were released off the Jack's Mannequin website.  I'd say that that's pretty damn close to an official release.  I'd appreciate it if you didn't make any changes on the article in regards to these four tracks. CJMylentz 22:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate if you didn't forbid me to make edits in a free encyclopedia. I'd also appreciate if your reply addressed at least one argument I was making that those songs are not "non-album tracks" — especially in regards to consistency with other articles, for which I gave more than sufficient examples. The problem is, "pretty damn close to an official release" is still not an official release (most importantly because the songs were online for how long, two weeks?). And I'm saying "calm down", because this argument is the most ridiculous thing to get angry, personal or defensive about. But if we can't settle this like two adults, this issue should be translocated to Talk:Jack's Mannequin. --HarryCane 23:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

The four songs released back in December was actually an official release given by the tour manager, Casper Johnson. It was actually called the Holiday EP. In case you guys didn't know. One of them was actually already released on the JM secret site. - Guest —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.47.4.236 (talk • contribs).

Removal of table in Hellogoodbye
Hi, why did you remove the table? Fair use still applies since they are low-quality and "solely ... illustrate the audio recording in question". -Halo 13:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, looks like you did the right thing in according to WikiProject Music. I'm going to annoy a few people there about it, since I'm not convinced about it. Sorry to annoy you. -Halo 14:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Infinity On High
Perfect job fixing up the page, I was just working on doing roughly the same thing. You beat me to it, but yours looks better. --DJREJECTED 13:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Glad I could help! --HarryCane 16:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Infinity On High
i'm new to the editing side of wikipedia, but enjoy it's usefulness every day. wanted to know why infinity on high isn't unprotected yet. is there still vandalism since the official release? i would just like to see more approved professional reviews in the review section. i feel as if each album in wikipedia should provide readers with a number of different reviews, links included, maybe 7-10 different ones. if i can't edit the page to do this, maybe you, or someone with permission could. i understand the sputnik.com review was removed because it is not included in the list of approved review material. i also noticed that i was not a favorable review. coincidence? i really enjoy the album, but the review section should be impartial and balanced. maybe the list of review sites that can be used should be added to. i know nothing of sputnik, but i noticed that neither spin magazine, blender, nor entertainment weekly are included in the list. also omitted are the LA times and the NY times. maybe even Q magazine or Mojo magazine. viable sources no? -Justus0 2:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hidden in Plain View
Regarding your reversion of my "otheruses": I was going to create a redirect page, since the book Hidden in Plain View is the primary source (and perhaps the only source) of the theory that quilts played a role in the Underground Railroad. It is more likely that a user would search for "Hidden in Plain View" than "Quilts of the Underground Railroad", which is why I put the tag at that article.

If "otheruses" isn't appropriate, should I set up a disambiguation page instead? Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks. — Malik Shabazz | Talk 17:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That's very helpful. — Malik Shabazz | Talk 18:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The Phrase that Pays
Thanks for you fix on that article. Would you be able to source the article as well? I'm not quite familiar enough to do the research with any efficiency. -- Auto ( talk / contribs ) 20:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

TSL rock genre
I think the genre "Rock" is redundant for the make yourself at home EP, because it is acoustic, and thus is acoustic rock and pop punk, so Rock is not needed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.38.71.76 (talk • contribs).

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Gallows
I've reverted your change. It doesn't seem reasonable to have an article on a minor UK band being the main root of an article tree when other uses are so much better known (even if one might wish them not to be :-. Linuxlad 19:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, I don't know the band, and I totally agree that the "Gallows" page should definitely either be a disambiguation page or link to the Gallows (Execution) article. However, the comment atop the article does not at all belong there, but on the talk page at best. You could also just move the pages yourself (if possible, maybe you'd need an administrator to do it) instead of listing what should be done. Anyway, if you need help move the articles/creating a disambig page, I'll gladly help, but the comment cannot stay in the Gallows article. --HarryCane 10:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

We seem to agree on what needs doing - I placed the comment (clearly temporary) because it was not clear to me that the imposed article just titled gallows and the article under gallows (band) were entirely the same - if you dislike my intermediate position I leave you to make the required edits. Bob aka Linuxlad 12:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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i saw u edited this page, do u have a copy of this album?

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Boys Like Girls
Ok about indie rock..but there is somethig indipendent about their music and they've mixed many styles to make their own. Indie pop maybe? (I'm not very sure about this indie thing...but from what I know I think their music is indie..and since indie pop is a genre...) I just want to be accurate in the article because just pop rock doesn't represent fully their music style. Please answer in my talk page. Bye :] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xr 1 (talk • contribs) 11:42, August 26, 2007 (UTC) Xr 1 09:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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I've noticed on the All American Rejects page you spoke out against using all music guide as a genre source, as it listed the band as indie rock. Please voice your opinion here, there is a debate going on over whether AMG should be used as a genre source.Hoponpop69 (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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harrycane - sit the fuck down and stop being such a prick about articles no one reads.

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Image copyright problem with Image:The Early November I Am The Avalanche Split.jpg
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ArbCom elections are now open!
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Nomination of Notes & Photographs for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:JamisonParker albums


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