User talk:Harryfrancis05

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where to go from here
You asked me a question about Corys by email; I'm replying here, because this ought to be discussed on-wiki. I think there is a solution--please read on to the end of my comment.

I think the company is notable. The problem was promotionalism--as several administrators before me had also found. A Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from  3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. There were none, besides the article in the Register. which was about Baen, not the company. I think however there are sources to be had, so an article could probably be written. The best sources for this type of material are often product reviews, and if you can find some, it would be very helpful

A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is generally no purpose in giving permission; it is better to rewrite.) From beginning to end, from the history's "with globalization and the increasing popularity of the World Wide Web, there was a demand from different enterprises to solve specific business problems" to the final paragraph, with "With continuously updated knowledge, every Cordys certified person is better equipped to face challenges like evolving technology and changing demands at the workplace. "  Some is just background; some, direct advertising.

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective clients --that sort of content is considered promotional. The description of the individual products is relevant, but not if it contains such sentences as "It allows business users, who are the closest to the problem, to easily develop and use process-centric cloud applications to solve their business needs." and quotes without actual published sources for them.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. One of the things the public might want to do is some actual facts, such as reliable sourced information about gross revenues and market share. This is especially true because there are better known companies in the same line of business, and the reader needs some indicate of relative importance. The only thing  relevant was the number of employees.

I took the occasion to examine the article on Cordys Process Factory, an article without a single actual substantial outside source or indication of importance. This article is also entirely promotional, and I have therefore deleted it also. . And the Jan Baan article has parts that are just as bad--but since he is very notable and there are adequate sources, I was able to easily rewrite it. I removed some sections without any third party indications of significance. I left the key quote. It would be possible to expand it, but I suggest you leave that to an uninvolved editor.

I suggest the following: I think it unlikely that you will be able to write a satisfactory article without some extensive revision from a uninvolved editor. Fortunately, I am one of the editors most sympathetic to articles on commercial enterprises and products, and consequently I'm willing to help with anything I think reasonably important. If you will in user space write a proper article, using no adjectives and no unsourced material, and incorporating very briefly and clearly the contents of Cordys Process Factory, I will revise it and move it in as good a state as I can manage to mainspace. There's no point undeleting the present article, as too little of it is usable. I will then enter a redirect from Cordys Product Factory as well. Give it a try, and let me know on my talk p.

Alternatively, if you would rather not do this, i will at the least provide a redirect from Cordys to the article on Baan, which can be expanded in the future.  DGG ( talk ) 04:22, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Cordys


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