User talk:HashimA

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September 2016
Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia with this username. This is because your username, Kaos-Industries, does not meet our username policy. '''Your username is the only reason for this block. You are welcome to choose a new username (see below) and continue editing.''' A username should not be promotional, related to a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive or disruptive. Also, usernames may not end in the word "bot" unless the account is an approved bot account. You are encouraged to choose a new account name that meets our policy guidelines and create the account yourself. Alternatively, if you have already made edits and you wish to keep your existing contributions under a new name, then you may request a change in username by:
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If you think that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  05:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, this is the name of a company, see http://kaosindustries.nl/.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  05:33, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This user requested a username change on Meta, which I have just approved. This block can be removed, since the reasoning behind the block is no longer applicable following the rename. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 02:28, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. I unblocked the account.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  08:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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The screenshot you included is for a different user,. That account is indeed blocked, but that's not the account you are currently using. Note that blocks apply to people, not just to accounts, so if Kaos-Industries is your account, you are not permitted to edit. If that is not your account, please let us know how you were able to obtain that screenshot, as that screenshot should only be available to someone logged in to that account. --Yamla (talk) 21:51, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Kaos-Industries was the previous name of this account, which was renamed back in 2016. This account was blocked in 2018, however, due to abuse of multiple accounts (see Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Kaos-Industries. The rename seems to have caused a bit of confusion in the block log, which doesn't show this account as being blocked due to the different username (it doesn't help that the redirect at User:Kaos-Industries was inadvertently overwritten). I'd be inclined to extend the Standard Offer, given that no sockpuppetry seems to have taken place since the summer of last year. Yunshui 雲 水 22:08, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I referenced the situation Yunshui refers to in my original block reason.
 * Looking at that page, it feels like accepting such an offer would imply guilt and the potential implications that may come as a result of having such charges apply to my account, in which case I would rather not go down that route. I would rather have the decision reversed as is right. I'd really like to know how exactly the admin in question pinned me of having not one, but two sockpuppet accounts "beyond reasonable doubt". Which of the signs of sockpuppetry were actually present? It really can't have been that many beyond mere coincidence. Reading this page reveals this very revealing excerpt:


 * This excerpt resonates with me but it's exactly what I suspect has happened here. I'm passionate about truth enough to be inspired to make occasional edits to Wikipedia and technically competent enough to figure out how, and in return an editor accused my account and two others of being sockpuppets, and an admin appears to have taken that information at face value. Why? HashimA (talk) 03:44, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delving back into the history, it looks as though suspicion was originally raised due to similar editing themes on Ibn Arabi. Following this, a checkuser investigation found a match between the three accounts (the data is now stale so I cannot recheck it, but generally a confirmation like that would indicate that either all three accounts were using the same IP in close temporal proximity, or that they were all using the same actual device). Checkuser data is usually considered fairly reliable. Yunshui 雲 水 07:37, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The same device or even the same IP address is an absolute impossibility, but even the same IP address range is something that would be highly, highly unlikely due to the odds of such a coincidence, and I am very skeptical about any such claim without seeing evidence of it from the people who investigate sockpuppet accounts. Here is the edit on the Ibn Arabi page that supposedly got me accused of sockpuppetry: a single edit that was so small it didn't even make a difference to the document's byte size. That shouldn't even qualify as a "similar editing theme", and yet the sockpuppet investigations team concluded I must have been a sockpuppet. I can accept based on this history that the IP address 96.241.155.118 *may* have been a sockpuppet, but how can any serious investigative team compare that IP address's edit history with mine here and conclude they point to the same person? Furthermore, where even is the third supposed sockpuppet "Dervishtan" in this entire edit history? I've done my fair share of work in infosec/cybersecurity, and the deeper I look into this the more I get the feeling this is an incidence of either malice or serious incompetence on the part of the "sockpuppet investigations team", and something needs to be corrected. HashimA (talk) 21:15, 14 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I think you are failing to address the central question here. This account was renamed from "Kaos-Industries" to "HashimA" on 24 September 2016. But then, on 30 November 2016, new "Kaos-Industries" account was created (see the log). Who created it? You? It seams so, according to your message above. Why? Why did you re-create the Kaos-Industries account when you knew that username is not acceptable?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:31, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I've already explained above at enough length how convoluted I find the Wikipedia UX, and I also remember it being a lot worse in 2016. I don't ever recall explicitly creating a new account or doing anything except logging into my account like I always have as normal - what the system did with that is the system's problem. However, if you believe that 3-year-old issue is the central question here then you're mistaken, and apparently scanning this page looking for past issues to pick on rather than actually trying to address the issue I reported. The central question here is the wrongful blocking of my account from editing on the basis of what can only be flimsy evidence, evidence that has never been materialised. HashimA (talk) 18:38, 15 October 2019 (UTC)