User talk:Hassan Janhal

December 2022
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Tanoli. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you.  McKhan (talk) 05:32, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Your edit to Janhal Mughals has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa (talk) 15:09, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello Diannaa! Thanks for informing me about the Wikipedia Copyright Policies, I'll try my best not to violate any in the future.
 * Hassan Janhal (talk) 15:53, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

One of your recent edits has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. Whpq (talk) 18:55, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Hassan Janhal! Your additions to Gheba Moghols have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.


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 * Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps described at Copying within Wikipedia. See also Help:Translation.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Sqay (Martial Art)


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Sqay (Martial Art). First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Sqay. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Sqay. If you have new information to add, you might want to discuss it at the article's talk page.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mubarik Ali Shan


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Speedy deletion nomination of Hoteel Mughals


A tag has been placed on Hoteel Mughals requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://newpakhistorian. wordpress.com/tag/hoteel-tribe/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Douli Mughals


A tag has been placed on Douli Mughals requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://newpakhistorian.wordpress. com/tag/douli-mughal/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Thanks for the new articles!
Hey there,

I’ve seen the new language articles you’ve been creating at WP:NPP. They’re looking splendid, so thanks from WP Languages, and keep up the good work!

Frzzl (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It's my pleasure! :)
 * Hassan Janhal (talk) 03:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Yabgo Dynasty


A tag has been placed on Yabgo Dynasty requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.dawn.com/news/1121859, https://vepakistan.com/location/pakistan/gilgit-baltistan/thoqsi-khar-khaplu-palace/, and https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@musawer/about-khaplu-palace-and-chaqchan-mosque-in-khaplu-baltistan. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 09:15, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Copyright
You have been previously warned about copyright policy. Do not copy copyrighted material. Write it in your won words. -- Whpq (talk) 13:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Qataghani


The article Qataghani has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails to meet GNG criteria."

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 10:14, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Gheba Moghols moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Gheba Moghols, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel 5969  TT me 12:12, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Douldai people moved to draftspace
You recently created an article Douldai people that should not have been published the way it is currently written. To demonstrate that it satisfies WP:GNG, it requires additional in-depth discussion of the topic itself, as well as citations from reputable, independent sources. Your article has been transferred to draftspace, where you may continue working on it without too much interruption (the article title will now start with "Draft:"). Please click the "Submit your draught for review!" button at the top when you believe the page satisfies Wikipedia's general notability standard and is thus suitable for mainspace. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 12:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Removal of AfC submission on Douldai people
Hello @Hassan Janhal, I noticed that you have removed the Articles for creation (AfC) submission tag from Douldai people as the page is not ready for mainspace. You should know that you can't remove the AfC tag but have to submit for review. References on your article are not verifiable as they dont have any links and also the subject does not meet with GNG criteria to stay on mainaspce. Improve the article and place proper reliable and secondary references then submit it for another review otherwise the article will be up for Articles for deletion AfD. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 14:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @M.Ashraf333 I apologise; I mistakenly believed that the article would be reviewed once it was moved to the article space. Also, how do I cite books? It has a lot of material about the Douldais, just like Muhammad Din Fauq's Tareekh Aqwam Poonch, however i could not find any link to the book. Hassan Janhal (talk) 15:28, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Douldai people


The article Douldai people has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Ethnic group of people does not meet the the GNG criteria as refs are poorly cited and there is no information about this group on reliable and independent sources."

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 02:25, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Douldai people for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Douldai people is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Douldai people until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Friendly suggestion
Background: The learning curve when you start editing Wikipedia is quite steep, and in the India/Pakistan/Kashmir topic area there is so much drama that special rules apply. I am an experienced editor and can help you a bit with understanding the rules of Wikipedia, but it's a bit of a minefield and I am not from the area, so I may insult you without meaning to. I apologize in advance in case I do.

The Suggestion: You are actually better off keeping your article in draftspace for the moment, where you will be allowed to work on it in peace. Your references are not in fact that impressive and it would be better if you improved them before moving the article to mainspace.

Answer to a question you asked: the instructions for citing a book are at Template:Cite book. The book does not need to be online, nor is it required that it be in English, although both would be ideal, since this is after all an English-language online space.

Bottom line: From what I have seen while trying to help, who is also trying to write about an ethnic minority, albeit on the Ladakhi side of the line of control, the more scholarly your sources the better. You should avoid travelogues, even if they meet the usual reliable sources criteria (WP:RS). Some suggestions about doing this:


 * take a look at [scholar.google.com Google Scholar].
 * JStor will let you read 100 articles a month for free.
 * There is a link on the main page of Wikipedia called Reference Desk; they may be able to help you with finding sources.
 * The Teahouse, also linked on the Wikipedia main page, may also be able to help you with procedural questions like "how do I cite a book". I am willing to answer specific questions you may have, here. Ask the question below preceded by . This will notify me to come look here; otherwise I probably won't see the question.

Hope this helps. As an aside, "poorly referenced" is not a reason to delete an article, and I will say so at the AfD. The question is whether the topic is notable. However, notability is demonstrated through sources. If you voluntarily draftify the article you will have more time to improve those sources. Elinruby (talk) 12:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I truly appreciate your advice, and I'll do my best to follow it. And thank you for responding to the queries regarding book citations. Hassan Janhal (talk) 12:52, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * you are welcome. All of the above still stands, but I am about to point out that your account is too new to nominate a discretionary sanctions article for deletion. Nothing personal. I will still help you if you ask me to. Elinruby (talk) 16:55, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand, but I proposed it for deletion since I believed there were already several articles on the subject, I had no idea that it would spark an edit battle. Hassan Janhal (talk) 17:02, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you also inform me how old a user account has to be in order to request the deletion of articles and what the requirements are? Hassan Janhal (talk) 17:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned, there is a lot of drama in this area. I am not sure why it is happening over this particular article. I am going to refer you to the Teahouse for an answer on that, as there are several types of discretionary sanctions pages. The least restrictive though is 30 days and 500 edits. Depending on previous cases in Kashmir, it may now be higher than that. Why are you so interested in deleting articles? Elinruby (talk) 17:14, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstood me, I don't want to delete any articles, but I felt that the article Dah Hanu was superfluous given that there were already distinct articles on these two settlements. Simply editing and adding new articles to Wikipedia is all that interests me. Hassan Janhal (talk) 17:27, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Please don't reverted back without having a final decision
Dear, I have opted Chathatang articles because it was created by a mention of a name by any book. And second thing ,it cited a false statements like people in those area are brokpa and speaks brokskat which is not true at all. The present population of those area is populated majority with balti people and who speaks balti langauge. There were fewer brokpa in those moral and chechethang as cited in a history, however today they are not there anymore and Broskat langauge is only spoken in Ganokh village as cited by the newspaper of Pakistan. If you want to a counter answers, then please come in deletion page with reliable sources and the Adminstrator will decide. And please don't remove my deletion request without the final consequences. And your Deletion proposal is not unfair because  Dha hanu means only twin valley of dha and hanu.

Thank you Minaro123 (talk) 17:32, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * the nomination of Dah Hanu us invalid, see section above Elinruby (talk) 17:38, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Maybe I am naive, but since you two are both writing about small communities along the line of control, it would seem to me that you should be able to discuss. you did well to notify him, and to state your reasons. However, as I have said a couple of times today in a couple of different ways, issues with the content or the sources are not a reason to delete. If you think it is now all Balti speakers, the you need to find a more recent source than says so.  my message to you js the same. Find some sources and discuss. Elinruby (talk) 19:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Janhal Mughals moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Janhal Mughals, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel 5969  TT me 12:11, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

"Kamangar" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kamangar&redirect=no Kamangar] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at until a consensus is reached.  Onel 5969  TT me 17:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)