User talk:Hassocks5489/Archives/2008/August

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Brighton railway station
Hi, and thanks for your message. I've replied at my own talk page, to keep the conversation in one place. :) – Kieran T (talk  12:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Hi, I see youve been adding infoboxes to ticket machine articles. Unfortunately you seem to have mistaken how Infoboxes work, The idea is that they are created in the template namespaace and then, using parameters displayed on the article page. I don't know whether you have been adding the code for the infobox individually to each article or using Subst to include an already created infobox but either of those are wrong. A good example would be my work on PC magazines. I created the template Template:Computer Magazines which I then added to all of hte related article (eg Micro Mart) using the code. That way the code only existys once but appears on loads of different pages! If you need any help creating the template and adding it to pages then please let me know. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 13:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Damn I forgot to sign that first comment - odd! anyway. Yeah what you have done now looks good, exactly how it's meant to work. Because you had copied the designs into the pages they got listed into the Infoboxes category - which isn't handy (thats how I found your mishap) :D but that is fixed with your changes. It all looks fine.


 * I'm glad I could help --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 13:25, 9 August 2006 (UTC) <- see signed this time!

Wow
Wow. Nice job with IndyCar Racing. I bumped it up to start, and when all the info in the categories you added are taken care of, I think it will be a B class, and eventally maybe a good article. I can honestly say this is the most improvement of a GCotW I've seen in quite a while. Keep up the good work.--Clyde Miller 22:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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Severn beach pics
You sir, are an absolute star! Bjrobinson 14:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The Rail Picture
Hassocks5489,

Thanks for your pictures of railway stations as they are really useful.

I have placed a few in the rail template box for aesthetic reasons. Your descriptions can still be seen if you hovver over the pics.

Ideally all 2,000-odd stations will have pictures on Wikip, so keep on keeping on !!!!

Ta very much again !

Whohe!

Welcome to WikiProject Brighton
It's great to have another member! And your interests seem very relevant. Itsmejudith 14:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

 Welcome!

Hi, and welcome to the Brighton WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of everything to do with the city of Brighton and Hove.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Unisouth Unisouth 15:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Referencing
Thank you for all your work on rail and ticketing articles. Can I please implore you to cite your sources though, you must be getting all this detailed information from somewhere! 09:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, and thanks for your comment. On reflection, there may be a problem for me to overcome here.  Essentially, I have built up a core of knowledge about "New Generation" ticket issuing systems over the past few years through a variety of sources, including partly (although, I must stress, far from exclusively) through personal observation through my ticket-collecting hobby.  For the past 4½ years, I have written a column about the latest developments in British railway ticketing in the monthly Journal of the Transport Ticket Society, probably the longest-established and largest such society in the world (there is a sample copy [here http://www.transport-ticket.org.uk/pdf/sample.pdf], which shows the contents of my column from that month, as an example).  Sources for the info I write about include personal observation and the findings of others, TOC press releases/website info, internal BR documents (manuals, code lists etc), the manufacturers' own websites (Shere, Scheidt & Bachmann etc), and many others.  Unfortunately, there isn't really one definitive published source in the "normal" sense (books/peer-reviewed journals/articles etc.) for me to cite.


 * A lot of info about National Location Codes has come from internal British Rail publications; likewise with Station groups (fares manuals and the ATOC website have been the main sources in these cases), but again these require interpretation and explanation to take them to a useful encyclopaedic "position", as it were (from a situation where only somebody with in-depth knowledge of the railway network and its terminology can understand the published references).


 * The TTS Journal does have an ISSN number, ISSN 0144-347X, which I suppose confirms its status as a genuine printed periodical (?).


 * Obviously, with regard to the monthly column, I don't want to be in violation of the "Citing Oneself" paragraph on WP:NOR ("This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Wikipedia, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing their sources. If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, then s/he may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy"). I hope I am not, but would like to have some advice or opinions.


 * In conclusion, it would be very unfortunate to lose these articles, as they represent important (if quite specialised) current developments and states of affairs within the "British railways" topic; but finding published work that can substantiate my own knowledge is potentially difficult in some cases, and I would appreciate some guidance from anybody with the appropriate experience. Hassocks5489 13:40, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Churches of Brighton
Hi Hassocks - I have some news on this front. Please see WikiProject Brighton. --Vox Humana 8&#39; 14:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply and link repair.--Vox Humana 8&#39; 20:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done on the St. Bartholomew's article! That's really excellent. It will probably need work done on it, but that's inevitable. Still, there's much more to be done. In case you haven't already got them, I would advise you to buy The Buildings of England: Sussex by Nikolaus Pevsner and The Thousand Best Churches of England by Simon Jenkins - its sister Thousand Best Houses is also excellent.--Vox Humana 8&#39; 13:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the way, can we please stick to the format "Church of (saint), (place)" when naming articles? It just makes for easier browsing and whatnot... --Vox Humana 8&#39; 14:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Great work on the St. Paul's article. BTW, can I become a proper member of the Brighton WikiProject, considering that I live in commuter-belt Surrey?--Vox Humana 8&#39; 23:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitely; please do! I noticed when browsing around the other day that one of the other members is from even further away...!  Just add your name to the list, and the userbox in your userspace.  Hassocks5489 09:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw that. Anyway, I'm joined now.--Vox Humana 8&#39; 10:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Good work on Church of St. Paul, Brighton, by the way - I think that this is really excellent - before I started using this account in November, we had absolutely nothing in the way of church articles! I hope this won't stop for some time. I may be coming down to Brighton over Easter - I will try photographing the interior of St. Paul's and St. Peter's, plus St. Michael's - I might also try to get replacement shots of St. Bart's interior, as the ones you've used have got a bit too much camera shake for my liking... The two John Loughborough Pearson churches in Hove (St. Barnabas' and St. John's) will also be on my agenda. St. Joseph's RC, Good Shepherd in Preston Park and St. Patrick's could also feature. --Vox Humana 8&#39; 15:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the way, I've seen your work on the St. Nicholas article - that's really excellent! Great photos, too... what type of camera do you use?--Vox Humana 8&#39; 15:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * This is basically what I use: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vox Humana 8' (talk • contribs) 14:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC).

Spoken Article Reviews
I've replied on my talk page, to keep the conversation together so that others might benefit from it. -- Macropode 12:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Pronounciation
Hi Hassocks!

I've just created an article and I suspect there's plenty of people who would mess up the pronounciation of the name. It's about Whuppity Scoorie, a Scottish celebration in Lanark, Scotland so ideally I'd be looking for a Scottish Wikipedian to do it but if that's not possible I would like help from a British Wikipedian. Could you help me out or recommend another Wikipedian? Since you're more familiar with the Spoken Wikipedia project you probably know more people who make sound files than I do. - Mgm|(talk) 11:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I have replied at Mgm's talk page here, to keep the discussion in one place. Hassocks5489 13:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's just a quick note that I'm about to reply on my talk page. :) - Mgm|(talk) 13:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Weymouth spoken version
Nice work on the spoken version of the Weymouth article! Its a great advantage for any article to have a non text version, especially featured ones. I hope that you continue your excellent work on WikiProject: Spoken Wikipedia. Yours, Rossenglish 15:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ross, and well done on helping to create an excellent article which was a pleasure to record. I chose Weymouth for my fourth spoken article as I wanted to contribute something from the field of UK geography, one of my favourite topics, and it was the only UK urban area that (at the time) was -status, as far as I could see.  (I notice Sheffield is also  now, and I hope to record it soon.)  Incidentally, I visited Weymouth for the first time last September, and although I saw little of it - just using it as a stopping-off point on a five-day trip around Britain - I found it a very pleasant and lively place.  The article certainly makes me want to go back and visit again!  Cheers, Hassocks5489 20:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Spoken articles
If I want someone with an American accent for a spoken article job, then who do you recommend? - Mgm|(talk) 11:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Mgm - thank you for awarding me the Barnstar, and it was nice to see Whuppity Scoorie Day appearing in the "Did You Know?" feature the other day! Regarding Spoken Wikipedia project members with US accents, I would recommend any of the following, who have been active recently: (I have linked to their talk pages)
 * WODUP
 * CBDroege
 * Persian Poet Gal
 * Rahzel
 * SCEhardt


 * SCEhardt is one of the project leaders. There is also a "Requested spoken article" template Template:Spoken Wikipedia request, which you can place on the talk page of the relevant article; but you can't specify any accent or other preferences unless you add it separately afterwards, and you will probably get a quicker response by asking an American Wikipedian directly.  Good luck!  Hassocks5489 13:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find any of the files SCEhardt had done, so I took a look at the others. I found CBDroege's work of a particular good quality so I asked him and he just replied. Thanks for your help. P.S. Persian Poet Gal's file has a really low volume. Perhaps you can advice her on how to fix that? - Mgm|(talk) 05:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I can expand one of the Jack the Ripper letter articles. Could I tempt you to do a spoken article on such an article if I work on fixing it to the best of my ability? - Mgm|(talk) 18:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's fine; just leave me another note when it's ready and I will record it as soon as I can. Hassocks5489 08:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Coronation Street - Featured Article Candidate
I thought I'd let you know that I have put Coronation Street forward as a FAC, hopefully it will be promoted back to FA status. Why not pop along to the FAC page and have a look? Ben 14:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Audio problems
I've recorded two audio pronunciations. One I did in the standard Windows sound recorder before converting it to .ogg with an online utility. The other was recorded and exported from Audacity. Do you have any idea why my VLC Media Player refuses to play the Audacity-created file? Did I do something wrong when I exported it? - Mgm|(talk) 18:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi MgM; I'm afraid I can't help you with this one, but I have copied the question across to the Spoken Wikipedia talk page here, where one of the other project members may be able to help. Hassocks5489 09:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Question from Pyrotec (moved from my user page)

 * Hi Hassocks5489,
 * I've just seen the note that you added to the APTIS talk page. It caught my attention as I'd just started updating the APTIS article this morning (and possibly soon I might do the same on PORTIS) as I thought they were both rather thin on detail. Ticketing is not really my area of expertise, but I remember these two systems coming in the Strathclyde PTE area. I was more interested in the (London Underground style) 'Stored Ride' Automatic Revenue Protection system that was trialled in Scotland on the Gourock/Wemyss Bay lines, and later in the London area, that was abandoned when open stations and APTIS/PORTIS came in. I could not find much on the ARP stored ride ticketing systems although Gourvish (2002) quotes some official BR file numbers; and I've just got hold of some railway magazines of the right era. Do you have detailed info on the stored ride ticketing system? Pyrotec 15:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Pyrotec; replying here, as mentioned at your talk page. I'm not familiar with this system myself, although I have a feeling I (or other TTS members) may know it under another name ... I have just e-mailed one of my friends in the society, who will probably either know or be able to advise me who does know!  I suspect the era is approximately late 1970s-early 1980s...?  Could you briefly describe the appearance of the tickets, as well?  Hassocks5489 22:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much. I started travelling that line Easter 1979, so they were there then. They were removed one Sunday and soon afterwards APTIS/PORTIS came in. This also ties in with the one man operation DOO working: the Strathclyde Manning Agreement in 1985? There was a national 3 month rail strike over getting rid of the second man (Fireman) from DMUs & EMUs. The tickets were plain blank (matt dayglow?) yellow Edmondson sized tickets with a magnetic strip on the back, down the centre longways. They were bought from the ticket office as, I half remember, 1, 2, 10, 20 or 50 journeys between two destinations, in adult or child validity. The two destinations, the number of journeys and the A or C (might have been M, F or C) were dot matrixed on the front, possibly as a thermal print. They were used to operate a turnstile at the start and end of the journey, which read the ticket, displayed how many journeys were still left; and then updated the ticket. The ticket was returned except for the very final exit when it kept the ticket. Sometimes the turnstile failed to read/write correctly and then the tickets had to be taken back to the ticket office; they could always read/write them.Pyrotec 18:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Hassocks5489, I have an update from the Railway Magazine, (RM), 1972 on Stored Journey tickets. R.M. April 1972, Barriers and encoding machines made by Litton Revenue Control Systems, Wembley. R.M. January 1972, describes them as Automatic Fare Collection. A notice was posted at Glasgow Central of the forthcoming installation on the Glasgow to Gourock & Wemyss Bay lines. System expected to be fully operational by May 1972. Prototype installed at Paisley St James in March 1971.Pyrotec 20:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi again Pyrotec; I will pass this additional info on to my friend (he hasn't replied to my e-mail yet). I may be able to put a note in next month's TTS Journal as well, to throw the question open to the whole society.  Hassocks5489 08:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

APTIS
Hi Hassocks5489, I read your comments on APTIS talk page and I am making some changes. Railway Magazine, gives the last Edmondson-type ticket as having been issued on 29 July 1988, at South Merton, to Keith Smith. He apparently collects tickets. It will not surprise me if he is a member; or someone provides evidence of a later issue.Pyrotec 18:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Pyrotec; thanks for your comments here and at the talk page, and your continued updates. I suspect the "Keith Smith" could be one of the co-authors of the railway route books in the Middleton Press series, which describe stretches of route in detail with photographs, maps, illustrations of tickets etc.  If this is the case, then one of the books in the series, "Lines Around Wimbledon", could have some mention of the South Merton issue.  I remember the hearing the Whitby story as well.  I'll see if I can find out more from other society members - I have sent an e-mail to one tonight.  Hassocks5489 22:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism on my userpage
Hi Matt, thanks for the alert. There's a story behind that one... You know, last summer, I'd made myself unpopular with some page moves which made common sense but some bullying admins decided it wasn't appropriate. I got an indef block for it. A few months ago, wanting a clean break so I could contribute to Wikipedia, but having forgotten about the block, I created this sockpuppet account. I was immediately blocked (but not before I'd created Church of St. Peter, Brighton). After months of arguing, I got unblocked. The bloke who vandalised my page and photo earlier then got up on his high horse, saying that I shouldn't have been unblocked! Now, isn't that hypocritical?--Vox Humana 8&#39; 22:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, by the way, unless it's more convenient (i. e. fewer characters) to call me Vox, please feel free to call me by my name, Richard! :-) --Vox Humana 8&#39; 22:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Meanwhile, here's a full list of what I've found he's done in the way of vandalism lately:
 * ,, , , , , plus changing my userpage image from a photo taken by my dad to this)--Vox Humana 8&#39; 15:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Expansion of WP:BAH - your opinion, please.
I have had the idea of expanding and renaming WikiProject Brighton to become WikiProject Sussex - this would not exclude people with a particular interest in, say, Chichester, Arundel, Worthing, Midhurst, Pulborough, Billingshurst, Horsham, Crawley, East Grinstead, Haywards Heath, Lewes, Eastbourne, Hastings, Rye, Winchelsea, etc. - all places worthy of a WikiProject - and I'm not sure that having WP:BAH as a sub-project of WP:Sussex would work. I feel that we are being too exclusive - we could attract new members this way. What do you think? - Vox Humana 8&#39; 17:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback - your proposition certainly seems sensible. I shall at some point copy the various responses I get to WP:BAH's talk page. - Vox Humana 8&#39; 13:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Your visit...
What brought you to my lovely hometown on the 17th of last month? :-) --Vox Humana 8&#39; 23:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Just wanted to add a note thanking you for uploading a picture to London Road (Brighton) railway station, I kept meaning to walk the five minutes it takes to get there and take a picture, saves me the bother now :) -- Joolz 03:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
As the lead contributer to the article, I must thank you for the recording you made of 1991 Hamlet chicken processing plant fire back on the 2nd - I'd been on vacation, and it was a great surprise to come back to! I listened right through to your recording, and you really have made a first-rate job, well done! Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you found the article interesting and easy to read. My main contributions to Wikipedia are disaster-related, so I will let you know if anything comes up, although most of my articles are on recent, minorish ecents that have not quite panned out enough for a permanent recorded version to be made. I am hopeful to have Adam Air Flight 574 featured next year, though, once the investigation finishes, and as it is currently a GA it might make a good recording anyway, even if it fails that, so I will let you know when the fullness of that particular saga is played out and in the article - prob. in '08, like I said. By the way, you might like to join WikiProject Disaster management. Hope to 'see' you on-wiki in the future, Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Ditchling Beacon
If I understand properly how Wikipedia works, you are the creator of this article. My apologies if you aren't!

I grew up not far from Brighton, and was (inaccurately) led to believe that Ditchling Beacon was the highest point on the S Downs; I now know that Butser Hill holds that honour. You assert that Ditchling is third highest. I went looking for number two, without success. Most sources suggest that it's actually Ditchling. If you know of a peak intermediate between Butser and Ditchling, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one interested! If not, perhaps it would be an idea to change the page? --King Hildebrand 17:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi King H; my initial source was this website, but I have since confirmed the exact location of the second-highest point: Crown Tegleaze, at 253m; ¾ mile slightly W of due S of the village of East Lavington. This website describes a walking route and confirms the height, although (conveniently!) incorrectly shows C.T. as the highest point on the South Downs; the grid ref is SU941148 (only six-figure - sorry), as per the online Ordnance Survey map here.  The associated down is called Littleton Down, and this website  quotes: "Littleton Down: Summit name is Crown Tegleaze. The highest point of the South Downs in Sussex, though not quite a Marilyn because Butser Hill (in Hampshire) is higher."  I'll add this to the article.  Thanks for picking up on this!  Hassocks5489 18:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for info. I hate these little niggling gaps - anal retentive, I guess! --King Hildebrand 16:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

St. Peter's
Hiya :) I see you're giving the St. Peter's Church article a welcome tidy-up. Do you think the gallery could do with a bit of a trim? It's been bugging me, not just because of the creative angles the photos are taken at, but also the captions (it's friendly, but it feels inappropriate for an encyclopædia to talk about the "interesting effect" being because the film was acidentally exposed!). The photos appear to be uploaded directly to Wikipedia. We could switch them over to Wikipedia Commons (I've never done that, but I've seen it done, so presumably it's not too arduous a process) and then use the "commons category" template to present a box which would link people to the photos if they actually wanted to browse them all. – Kieran T  ('talk ') 13:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Kieran; yes, I found a couple of useful books in the Jubilee library! I'm inclined to agree about the pix; perhaps if four were left in the gallery at the bottom, with the rest (well, and those four, for completeness) uploaded to the Commons with a link, as you suggest.  Personally, of Vox Humana 8's photos, I would keep "The West end and War Memorial", "The arch in the liturgical West face of the tower", "A window on the liturgical South side of the original Nave" and "Looking across the church from the liturgical South-East - with the contrejours filter" in the Gallery, with the others in the Commons category template.  I have a couple of other photos of my own which could be added to the Commons - one of the northern face, taken from some way up Ditchling Road (IIRC), and an interesting one looking to the north with St. Bartholomew's towering over everything on the left as well.  Gallery comments could be pruned slightly as well in some cases.  Let me know what you think.  Hassocks5489 10:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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Woolwich
Hey, just thought you might like to know about this fairly obscure place I visited today: the North Woolwich Old Station Museum at North Woolwich railway station. It's not (yet) big enough to necessarily merit a trip to London on its own, but if you're ever in the city on a weekend anyway, it's... quaint, and has a small display of railway tickets and a reconstructed ticket office. :) – Kieran T ('talk ') 23:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject Sussex
WikiProject Sussex Please have a look at and join the above! --Vox Humana 8&#39; 21:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

DYK Senior Railcard
There is a request pending regarding your Senior Railcard DYK nomination. Please respond here. -- Jreferee  (Talk) 02:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Hassocks5489 11:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hassocks Infant School
Many thanks for adding the picture of the school. Paste

Spoken articles
Hi. I was wondering if you would be willing to do a spoken recording of All Blacks? It's an FA quality article and is featured in two other languages (French and German)? - Shudde talk  03:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Have replied at Shudde's talk page. Recording to start in the next few days.  Hassocks5489 07:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks. Yeah some of the names might be a little hard to pronounce. I'm thinking of a webpage where they have a broadcast. I'll have a look around and see if there is a broadcast of the team selection announcement or something. That may help. - Shudde <font color="Blue">talk  08:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for starting the All Blacks spoken article. In reply to your post on my talk page. I will try and update the Tri-Nations table. I have tried to do it earlier but wasn't able to find a table online. I'm sure there is one somewhere and I'll get it done asap. For the Maori pronunciation I think you should contact Kahuroa who I'm pretty sure speaks Maori (and is active on the Maori wikipedia). Kahuroa is likely to be able to give you better answers then me&mdash;I'd hate to lead you astray! Thanks. - <font color="Blue">Shudde <font color="Blue">talk  04:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! I'm going to listen to it tomorrow. Thanks for doing it. Really appreciate it. - <font color="Blue">Shudde <font color="Blue">talk  10:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Shaw and Crompton spoken version
Hello Hassocks5489,

Thank you very much for offering to create a spoken version of this article. I'm glad you find it a very good article. I'll look forwards to hearing it, though if you have any questions over certain statements and phrasing, do feel free to get in touch of course! Thanks again, Jza84 10:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk - Aston Villa
That would be brilliant if you could do that! Thank you (Everlast1910 13:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC))

All Blacks, Bit more
Ka Mate = Eng spelling Kah MUTTeh, all vowels short except the Kah. Kapa = exactly like Southern English Cuppa as in cuppa tea. Kapa o Pango = Eng spelling CUPPa aw Pungaw, all short vowels. Kahuroa 00:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Crawley work
Hi - thanks for getting me inspired with the Crawley work. I have long thought that the article could do with a proper overhaul, but your input on the structure was just what was required. I have, as you say, started to add information in fairly random chunks, but do feel free to edit & delete anything I've put in; I'm not proud. Would rather see a great article. Regards Tafkam 19:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Having written the Politics section of politics & demography, I wonder if the two ought not to be separated into one sub-heading for each. Any thoughts? Tafkam 21:33, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've come up with a solution which splits demographics off from politics and into a new "Geography, demographics and areas" section that can cover the main physical aspects of the town (location, size, relationship to other major centres of population), the demographic profile and the neighbourhoods. There is easily enough politics-related material to justify its own section, on reflection.  "Geography" stuff would then need to stick to the urban environment and be kept distinct from geology-related matters such as landform, water etc., I suppose.  Hassocks5489 22:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you think it wise to include something on the coat of arms? I'd guess we could include the crest under fair use. Tafkam 22:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, good idea - it can go in the infobox using code like this: colspan="2" align="center"|[[Image:Crawley Coat of Arms.jpg|200px|Arms of Crawley Borough Council]] (based on code used in the Sheffield article). Taking a low-res copy of the image at that website should be fine, using Cheltenham as a precedent (for example; I've just been looking around a few town/city articles to see what they do).  Hassocks5489 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Grand - that's worth doing then. Have been playing around with templates. Not sure that Crawley warrants one, but this might be useful to you in collating bits for the article being worked on: User:Tafkam/Crawley Template. Regards Tafkam 01:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Good template design; I've included it. I might resize the Crawley outline image to 100px, though.  Hassocks5489 18:44, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just bought a new camera, so I'm planning to go to Crawley on Saturday and take some pix for the article. It should give me a chance to go to the library as well!  Hassocks5489 07:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds useful. I have tried to keep adding to the sections although I'm not working on the fringes of my knowledge, so there is perhaps scope for improvement in the Sports & Industry sections. Certainly now the word count is almost 3 times the original article, a few photos would be well placed. Tafkam 23:23, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

A possible better template using the generix navbox template. Looks a bit tidier I think, despite having more in it: User:Tafkam/Crawley Template 2. Any thoughts? Tafkam 18:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree; the new version looks excellent. I'll put it in to see how it looks.  By the way, my computer has helpfully (!) decided to stop working, so until I can buy a new one (which I hope won't take too long) I will be severely restricted on what I can do on Wikipedia.  Fortunately I picked up a lot of useful info at the weekend (along with some photos), so I have plenty of material to work with when I can get back to "proper" editing.  Hassocks5489 20:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm pleased to say I now have a new computer, so I will be back to editing as normal. On the geology and climate section - I was speaking to a friend last night (a qualified geologist), and funnily enough she suggested the very same site (www.bgs.ac.uk) that you used for one of the refs!!  "Great minds..."   I'll upload some pix next, before writing more over the weekend.  Hassocks5489 21:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Update: I have amended the section name of 'Politics' to 'Governance' and relocated as per WP:UKCITIES, since there it suggests that the Politics header should be reserved for political issues. Personally I would prefer 'Administration', but makes sense to stick to the suggested names, I thought. Let me know if you want to revert. Aside from that, I think I have reached a limit on what I can do to add much substance. My knowledge of industry, etc. is not good, since I'm not really familiar with local employment. Unless you can think of anything else that should be added that I might be able to assist with, I think I'm going to sign off, and wait for it to appear at Crawley. Thanks again for inspiring me to get going on it! Regards Tafkam 20:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the latest updates. I can finish the ind/comm sections using sources I have, after which I will do a final tidy-up as per WP:UKCITIES and copy it across to the article page.  I think it will be worth putting it forward as a Good Article candidate after this, as a possible prelude to -status.  Many thanks for all your work over the last 5 weeks.  Hassocks5489 12:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Excellent - I'm really pleased with how it's looking; including your start on the industry section today. Nomination for GA-status seems good. I wonder, too, if there are any opportunities for good DYK ideas? Tafkam 21:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Glad to see the move has taken place! Tafkam 22:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Shaw and Crompton... and Hassocks!
No problem about the spoken article version. It's a shame it wont be ready quite as soon, but I can certainly wait!

I listened to your spoken version of Sheffield and it's very, very good (very well paced, toned and articulated). I thought the updates/upgrades to a couple of the articles you were interested in may be considered a thanks! I'll try to get round to completing infobox county maps for this part of the UK asap! Jza84 13:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you ever so much for this great addition to the article and encyclopedia as a whole! Fantastic work! Jza84 15:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your response on the reference desk, i think you are quite right, if it is not in the credits then it must be Jeff Lynne's own composition, thanks again for taking the effort to go look for me :) RobertsZ 20:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

A scrumcious cookie
Have this for creating the spoken article of Aston Villa F.C.. Your efforts are much appreciated. It was also good for it to have a copyedit to iron out those small bugs!! Thanks again Woodym555 22:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: [[Image:Shaw and Crompton.ogg]]
I'm afraid we really need to have this recording in mono. Also, you're a very skilled narrator, so let's get the level of that voice up a bit so that listeners can hear it! ;-) Review here. Here's a little guide to fixing the issues (in Audacity), should you need it. -- Macropode 09:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Initial reply left at Macropode's talk page, prior to trying to sort out the probs. Hassocks5489 11:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Aston Villa FC.ogg
G'day Hassocks5489. I've just done a formal review of this recording (not yet posted). While the narration is up to your usual high standard, the audio level is quite low. Any chance you could "Amplify" it (as you did with Image:Shaw_and_Crompton.ogg) and re-upload it? There are also some noise reduction processing artifacts (that sound like a hundred little electronic birds chirping) audible underneath your narration. They'll come up a bit too when you amplify, but there's probably not much you can do about them, and they don't matter as much as the low level. -- Macropode 07:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and don't forget to add it to Spoken articles. :) -- Macropode 08:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations
... on bringing Crawley up to good article status. Excellent work. --NSH001 20:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

DLR audio
See Talk:Docklands Light Railway Simply south 12:20, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay. It is an everchanging system and i was not meaning for it to come across as criticism. Simply south 17:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:BAH
Hi Matt. WP:BAH was recently tagged as inactive, although, as I've been doing some BAH-related stuff, I removed the tag. Can we try and get it going again, or do we close it down?--Voxpuppet (talk • contribs) 12:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

UK geography
Hello again! I hope all is well. I just wondered if you'd ever considered joining WikiProject UK geography - we could certainly do with more people as skilled and prudent as yourself! Hope you will consider it! <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 17:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello! I'm glad you have joined and thanks for the reply.


 * I think the embedded audio is a good idea. Do detailed instructions exist anywhere? Are there any good examples which we can point to? I think it only adds to the wealth of content for settlements, which is a good thing!


 * On Crawley - it's a great, great article. I haven't gone through with a fine comb, but have made some quick cosmetic changes, and left some comments at the article talk page. Hope this helps. Get back to me if you can about the audio idea. <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 15:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It's a shame I'm a mute!... No I'm joking of course, but don't have recording capabilities myself. Certainly though, I think this is a fantastic feature to have for our settlement (and county) articles. Do you think you'd be able to write up a guideline for WP:UKGEO? It could form part of the series of "How to..." guidelines we're currently expanding. I know you've been heavily involved with the Spoken article wikiproject, and I suspect you've read out every UK geography article that exists in sound format - I think you should have some support. What do you think?


 * Just a note too, that I'm about 20 minutes away from completing a local county map for West Sussex for use in the infobox (like that seen elsewhere - Croxton Kerrial for example). Hopefully it can help with the better presentation for your neck of the woods! <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 23:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello again! I do apologise for the delay in replying - I've had no internet access for a few days. I need to get across to you asap that if you're recording an audio file for Oldham, please be aware than "Greenacres is pronounced "Grin-icres"!


 * I will take a look at your audio embedding proposals within the next 24-28 hours! Hope all is well, <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 02:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Tovil railway stations
See Maidstone West railway station and the talk page of that article for further details on these stations. Mjroots 22:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Sound File LB Haringey
I wonder if you realise that the OGG file format you use requires many people to downlaod a codec to play it. Isn't there another easier-to-access format you could use? hjuk (talk) 00:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

IPA
As you may know Somerset is an FA candidate & a reviewer has written ""Pronunciation - you have the audio which is great but could you also add the IPA rendering? Not everyone has the audio functionality and it is useful for non Brits to see how it is pronounced."" on Featured article candidates/Somerset. It has your excellent audio file but do you know enough about IPA to add that for me (or know someone who could) as i know nothing about it?&mdash; Rod talk 09:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help with this.&mdash; Rod talk 18:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Newcastle upon Tyne / IPA
Howdy! Thanks for your message - I've added a bit more (just from personal experiences) about the pronunciation, I've outlined three ways of saying the place name (just to muddy the water further!!) I think that a local version would be great, how does one go about doing this? My brain's a bit frazzled (I'm meant to be revising for final exams) is everyone in agreement that there *should* be a local variant sound file on the article page? Is it just a case of recording it and uploading it to Wikipedia? PS, I'll be able to do an IPA transcription if you want also! BNC85 (talk) 11:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC) (apologies if I'm not making sense, I just need to get to the 14th Jan and then I'll be sane!!)

Somerset FAC
Unfortunately there has been a problem with FAC (possibly due to transcluded pages/templates & overall page size). As a result several nominations, including Somerset, have had to be restarted and I have been informed that all previous commentary (both supporting and opposing), including yours is void. As a result would you be kind enough to review the page and place any comments at Featured article candidates/Somerset. Thanks&mdash; Rod talk 19:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks ever so much for the spoken version of the Oldham article. Despite having wrote the vast majority, I listened to it last night in full ( quite very sad on my part!). I really enjoyed it! Of course I heard a couple of minor things that I was not happy with (my own mistaken use of language) and changed them.

I hope you enjoyed reading about my...um.... beautiful.... town! Fantastic work! <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 21:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No probs, and glad you enjoyed it! Since getting a new, much better microphone, I've been pretty active on the spoken article side (6 completed so far this month!).  Oldham was a particular epic, in fact, as I had originally recorded it in November with the old microphone, but I wasn't happy with the sound quality so I redid it.  Then it took me ages to get a chance to edit and upload it.  Good job you told me about the pronunciation of Greenacres, by the way!  I've done Altrincham, Manchester and M62 motorway recently as well.  Now that Stretford has reached FA, that is on my radar (along with a whole slab of Kent FAs, Bath and a few other British places, not to mention the place-name pronunciations I have been working on!).  Hassocks5489 (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

dyk

 * ...that St Leonard's Church in Brighton and Hove was on Church Road, but is now on New Church Road after another church was built? Hassocks5489 I included a new factoid that was easily checked online. OK? Victuallers (talk) 10:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

St Leonards
The Images of England website I used should have a picture and details for every listed building in England (that was listed prior to February 2001). It's produced by English Heritage so must be counted pretty definitive, just using the basic search facility and entering Hove brought up a couplle of hundred entries, including a number of churches, may be worth using as an additional reference -looks like there will be a proper online National Monumnet Register in the next few months too. David Underdown (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks for nominating James H. Douglas, Jr. for DYK recognition--Orygun (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Crawley - FA status?
Hi - after all of our efforts last summer (and more recent additions), I was wondering what you thought about moving forward with nominating Crawley for FA status? I don't really know enough about the workings of the process, so am reluctant even to move to the stage of peer-review without some other comments. Is it a suitable candidate, do you think? And if so... what happens now? Tafkam (talk) 03:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Tafkam! I have been considering nominating for peer review for a while, having seen how stable the article has been since the rewrite.  The only thing missing had been some mention of public services, which you have now added, so I think it's ready.  I've read many UK town/city FA articles in depth recently (while producing spoken versions of them), and I feel Crawley bears comparison with them — if anything, it may need shortening in places.  What I intend to do, then, is nominate it for a peer review and simultaneously advise the UK Geography project that I have done so, so that some of the experts there can take a look and add their comments.  It seems that once a Peer Review Request template is added to the talk page, it generates a separate subpage on which comments (both semi-automated/generated by bot and manual) can be added.  This is also displayed in read-only (?) format on the Peer Review page.  I'll do that now, and with a bit of luck some comments should start coming in over the next few days.  Keep watching out; I will as well.  Thanks again for your latest additions!  Hassocks5489 (talk) 13:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Good call. I'll try to make some input at the peer review too. Even if the article fails at FA, it is always ususally an excellent place for feedback anyway. <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 13:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I have requested the views of User:JMiall who is listed on the list of volunteers for Geography articles. Tafkam (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
I have only just got round to listening to your spoken version of the Manchester article and gosh it is long! It must have taken you hours to record it and put it together. All I have to offer is this.

The very rare Greater Manchester award, even I don't have one and I have been one of the most active members since May 2007! :'-( └<font color="#0084C9">and-rew ┘┌<font color="#0084C9">talk ┐ 10:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for everything you're doing with the project, it's really appreciated! I hope you're finding it a good place to be and enjoy where we're taking our articles. My fingers are crossed for the DYK for the List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford! I was going to post you our project welcome, but as you're an experienced editor, I thought it might be a bit patronising if I did! <span style="color:#696969;font-size:larger;font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">-- Jza84 · (talk) 13:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I only nominated this one really! :)  Hassocks5489 (talk) 21:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The meaning of "BRUTE"
Thanks for clearing this up and your edits regarding tis matter, it was not obvious to me what it was even as a railfan. Oxyman42 (talk) 15:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Hassocks5489/NEQ
Hi, regarding the images of the tickets used on the table on this page, (and the many others that you have uploaded) I am afraid they are under copyright due to the logo used on them. See this and this for clarification. It makes sense- if they were truly freely licensed, then someone could reproduce them for profit, which the rail companies obviously do not want. Anyway- this means that the images will need to be retagged as fair use, and a detailed fair use rationale added to each one, one for each article each image appears in. Also, they will need to be removed from the userspace, and will have to be used in at least one article. I'm sorry- I realise how much work you have put into these, I am not saying that they should be deleted, I just want to ensure that we follow the proper fair use procedures, rather than tagging crown copyrighted designs as public domain. I have clarified this with another admin who is particuarly knowledgable on copyright. If you have any questions or need any help, please feel free to contact me. J Milburn (talk) 19:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hiya. The majority of these were uploaded for a planned list/article/sub-article of mine which never got off the ground, and frankly on reflection probably isn't encyclopaedic anyway.  As the relevant images serve little useful purpose at this stage, I am actually happy for them to be deleted.  I can always re-upload them (and worry about the licensing) later if I feel the urge to write the relevant article(s)/list(s).  Having said that - because of the value they bring to the articles in question, I would prefer the images used in the following articles to be retained (presumably meaning I will need to go through the retagging and fair-use rationale process for them): Concessionary fares on the British railway network, Young Persons Railcard, Network Railcard, Senior Railcard and Family Railcard.  As I am horribly pressed for time at the moment, could I ask for your help in various ways?
 * Perhaps you could organise a mass deletion of images I advise you of?
 * Assistance in preparing fair-use rationales for the others would be useful. Can you tell me if the rationale and licence here, on the BR "double-arrow" logo, could form a basis for a valid rationale, given that the logo is the only thing referred to in the links above as a crown copyrighted symbol (i.e. rather than the ticket itself)?
 * I'll take the ticket section off that userpage now, just leaving the churches! Please let me know your thoughts/responses at this page.  Hassocks5489 (talk) 21:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to help- is there some sort of list of all the images somewhere? If not, are they all named in the same way? If they are all named in the same way, I can maybe find them all using the index. J Milburn (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I was just going to say you can pick them up from my image gallery here, but you seem to be on to it correctly already. Essentially any "APTIS 4599-xx.jpg" can go.  All of the "Status Code xxx" are in use on Railcard articles, and I'd appreciate a stay of execution on those; likewise with "SNR Card x.png", "FAM Card x.png", and those listed on the image page as "Non-APTIS Railcards", "Senior Promo" and the six "London"-related tickets under the heading "APTIS travel tickets (BR/RSP 4599)".  Thanks.  Hassocks5489 (talk) 22:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I probably only really need one of the Senior Promo tickets, so I'll let you know which one I'd like to keep when I've had a think about it. The Londons are very useful at illustrating a complex concept, but preparing six separate fair-use rationales would probably outweigh the benefits.  If I rescanned the six in one image, would that be allowed to be covered by one fair-use rationale, even though six BR logos were on display?  Or what if I scanned them in a fanned-out or layered fashion, so that the logos were hidden on all but the top ticket but the important detail (the rendering of "London") was retained?  (Ask me to clarify if that doesn't make sense - I'm typing this quite quickly!)  Hassocks5489 (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted all those that are not used in an article. The idea of scanning several in at once is a great idea- it would only need one rationale. The images that remain will need to be properly tagged as fair use and rationales will need to be added- take advantage of this template. If I have deleted any images you don't want deleting, tell me, I'll restore. If I have missed any, contact me or just tag them with. If you need any help, drop me a line, but I have a few more things I need to do tonight, so can't deal with the remaining issues tonight. Thanks for understanding the situation. J Milburn (talk) 22:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that's great - thanks again for your help and advice. I'm going to bed soon anyway, so I'll come back to this tomorrow evening.  Hassocks5489 (talk) 23:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at re-uploading the six London tickets in one file (here), with a "logo" licence. I'd appreciate some guidance on whether the license and rationale look suitable - thanks.  The following redundant images can now be deleted: Image:London BR APTIS.PNG, Image:London Brit Rail APTIS.PNG, Image:London APTIS.PNG, Image:London Terminals APTIS.PNG, Image:London Britrail APTIS.PNG, Image:London Stations APTIS.PNG.  Hassocks5489 (talk) 22:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Shakespeak 2008 (haha!)
You can leave a message on the article's talk page or at WP:BARD. We've got a lot of good editors as part of the project so questions should be answered pretty quickly. Wrad (talk) 18:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Crawley updates
Hi, Just wanted to say thanks for all your latest efforts on the Crawley article. You have made so many changes which, to be frank, were beyond my expertise given my limited experience of WP, but have clearly improved the article. I look forward to seeing it move forwards towards FA status. Sorry I couldn't have been more useful at this stage. Tafkam (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Stretford
I'd really like to thank you for adding the spoken version of this article, I really didn't expect that at all. I listened to it earlier, and it's simply excellent. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Peterloo and Denshaw
Fantastic! I'll have a listen to the entry later on (I always listen through your work!). The Denshaw thing was crazy! I spoke to my brother about this (he saw the coverage on BBC North West Tonight) who was suspicious that several news agencies picked up on this all on the same day. The village is just up the road from me (literally!), and it's weird to see it covered in that way.... shame the four toes thing isn't verifiable, I suspect it to be true for Denshaw! Thanks again however, --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 22:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've amassed a small library of books about Oldham, Shaw and parts of northeast Greater Manchester, but, sadly, Denshaw doesn't get a mention in any of them from a cursory glance. For one reason or another, it seems to have been overlooked by the Industrial Revolution which took a hold on the rest of the region. It would be rather amazing to get this upto a B-class article in just 48 hours, but it kind of proves the cynics wrong I guess. --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 22:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Well well!
I noticed that your spoken article of Weymouth has become front page news today. Just felt that warranted a congratulatory note of some sort!
 * Reason turns rancid (talk) 22:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Newcastle
Hi. Yes, happy to help - please let me know where to find your experimental files and I'll give you an opinion on which is best. SP-KP (talk) 17:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Excellent, not cringeworthy at all :-) I'd say that the third in the sequence sounds best ... although this is after a couple of glasses of Rioja so it is probably worth getting a second opinion! SP-KP (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Well done, thanks. No howls of outcry from anyone yet at the ersatz geordie? :-) SP-KP (talk) 10:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Poole Stadium DYK nom
Hi - there is a problem with this nomination that you may want to address. Some of newspaper links do not have enough publication information. The hook is cited from the history page of the football club, which is not a large or well-known entity. Please see WP:RS for any clarification and post your comments at the nomination on T:TDYK. <font face="Verdana"><font color="Red">Vishnava <font color="Blue"> talk  15:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] The new hook is actually better. <font face="Verdana"><font color="Red">Vishnava <font color="Blue"> talk  23:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating the article for DYK. I tried to find better citations for the first hook you suggested, but Google was not my friend either. I see that the new hook has been approved though. BarretBonden (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for completing the edit of Edward Low
You did a good and thorough job. Unfortunately for me, my first few recordings are the worst as I was still learning to use Audacity and had not realized what was causing the horrid background noise and buzz. I think the quality is much better now because I took care of some things, but who knows, that's why we have edits. Anyhoo, just wanted to say thanks. <font color="#ff00cc">Popular <font color="#6600cc">Outcast <font color="#ff9900">talk2me! 16:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK - Indonesian killings
Hi Hassocks. Thanks for picking up on the new article. The summary is fine in my opinion. How did you find it? Do you scan a list of new articles? Another new one is Ibnu Sutowo, but it might have missed the cut off date. Also, Kopkamtib.

Ah yes, the Levuka church. Lovely little place, so if you are ever in Fiji…

I’ll let you know of any other new articles. I’ve created quite a few (some linked on my user page) but I think I’ve only posted one DYK. Regards --Merbabu (talk) 23:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * PS, I forgot already: Madiun Affair is also a new article this week, but needs expansion. --Merbabu (talk) 00:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK 6/26

 * Thanks for the nomination! :-) Craigy (talk) 14:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Percival Goodman

 * Thank you for your DYK nomination of Percival Goodman; it was my first new article of any length so I am glad (and relieved) that others found it interesting.--Arxiloxos (talk) 04:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks for the nom for Josiah Forster ... looks fine. However he has a brother William Forster (philanthropist) who started a 5x expansion on the same day. He feels awfully left out. Could you help? Victuallers (talk) 16:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC). William sends best wishes. THx for the new double nom and copy edit. I'm a few days from spotting them in a painting and then seeing what I could find out. At the moment I know that William did what the hook says, but I'm not sure Josiah met European leaders. He did visit people of influence but not sure they were monarchs. Any ideas? Victuallers (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Simonsbath
I'm not sure how to describe a pronunciation in words but I believe it said like symmons as in the surname rather than simon as in the first name. However, I wasn't born in this part of the world & frequently get these local place names wrong. I would suggest putting your question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somerset & Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Devon.&mdash; Rod talk 12:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Adrenergic storm
Hi. I removed the Taser mentions from Adrenergic storm per Talk:Adrenergic storm. Since your proposed DYK hook mentions this now-removed content, it needs revision. Maybe something like "improper eating habits while taking MAOIs"? Flatscan (talk) 03:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
For the copyedit on Srizbi botnet. I have never been a bright light regarding grammar (Nor a native English speaker/writer) which causes quite a lot of small errors in articles i create. The article sure reads a lot more fluently now, so again, my sincere appreciation for your assistance with this.

kind regards, Excirial (<font color="FF8C00">Talk ,<font color="FF8C00">Contribs ) 21:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Lipantitlán, Lipantitlán|Gokoku-ji DYKs

 * Hassocks, thank you for nominating my Gokoku-ji article for DYK. I don't think I've ever gotten a DYK without self-nominating. Thanks again! LordAmeth (talk) 03:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Hassocks's photo
Hi Hassocks5489, thanks for all your Hassocks's photo. I went there in 2001, it's a fantastic place,I'm entusiastic to see again this park Thanks :) --.snoopy.  19:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

You now have Rollback
Hello there Hassocks5489!

Good news! I've granted you rights to the Rollback feature. I'm confident you will use this dangerous weapon wisely, but to maintain your good standing in the editting community, please take a look at the aforementioned link for clarity on what this entails! My only surprise is that you didn't have this already. Good luck, :D --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 22:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Oldham Werneth railway station factoid
No problem at all. I'm not an expert in this field and just reported the claim as I found it. I think I've added it to Oldham Loop Line, Oldham and Oldham Werneth railway station, nowhere else. Thanks for spotting this! --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | <font style="color:#000000;background:#D3D3D3;"> Talk 23:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Spoken Wikipedia reviews
Hi Hassocks, thank you for responding to my query on the project page. I was reluctant to post the question in the first place, as I don't wish to be too negative regarding someone's obviously well-intentioned effort, but I decided it was necessary for the good of the project! The recording in question is actually split into 3 parts and is on the History of Lebanon. I have listened to all of Part 1 and only bits of parts 2 & 3. It was recorded (or at least uploaded) in April 2008, so really there isn't much excuse for not following the guidelines. It begins with a "personal" introduction from the reader, which I found informal and inappropriate, and the standard introduction is missing. I noticed that Part 3 has been cut off mid-sentence, before the article is finished. Besides these two things, the general standard of pronunciation is poor and there are a lot of "uhs" and emphasis is placed on the wrong parts of sentences, due to hesitation on the reader's part. There are also quite a few "caught mistakes"—words which are mis-read and then hastily corrected (isn't this a golden rule no-no?, lol). Overall it sounded like the first read-through, and even then by someone who is unfamiliar or uncomfortable with reading aloud. I was hoping that perhaps the recordings could be removed? I realise that this may be a difficult suggestion! Instead of leaving the article without a recording, I may be able to attempt it myself as I have a friend who grew up in Lebanon who could coach me on some pronunciations. In fact, he may be willing to do the recording himself. In any case, I would appreciate your view on the subject.

Also, the subject of my question was based on how to deal with bad recordings—I suppose that from your response, it is best to bring the matter to you for attention?

Thanks for your help! :) Maedin (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

thx for your help Hassocks5489
Thx for checking the refs. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 15:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Terrific spoken review on Christopher Cox
You confirmed a few weaknesses I had noticed, such as start-stop flow, and pointed out others I didn't pick up on, such as the deviations from the text and background noise. You were very thorough. Thanks for your time. Ssnseawolf (talk) 22:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Spoken Article help
Hi. I've recently begun a Spoken Article for About. I would like to hear your expert feedback on this rough draft of part one of four to six parts. In particular, if you could help me with any of the following, I'd be happy: I'm not asking for a line-by-line, but just certain issues you notice overall. You can access the file here (10 MB). Thanks so much for helping this Spoken Newbie,  CB ( ö)  05:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Whether or not the sample is even good enough to warrant a continuation of the speaking and fixing errors in this draft
 * Any pronunciation or tone errors
 * Any suggestions on improving the article's speed, pauses, titling, etc.
 * Thanks for the analysis. I think I'll talke your advice and do some smaller ones first; hopefully I can work on up to this one.  Also, thanks for the stereo vs. mono advice; that should help when I try to save the file and upload it.   CB (  ö)  01:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Subarachnoid hemorrhage archiving too?
Thanks for adding a spoken version of the article.

Your talk page seems to be becoming quite long, you may like to archive it. —<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2px">Cyclonenim <font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">T@lk? 00:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip; I've set up automated archiving using ClueBot. Hope it works!  <font face="Helvetica"><font color="#00BFFF">Hassocks <font color="#228B22">5489 (tickets please!)  10:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Spoken Wikipedia Reviews & regarding History of Lebanon
Hi Hassocks, thank you very much for such a detailed response and for taking the time to investigate my concerns. I really appreciate it! I liked your digression, too, you obviously have made a lot of contributions, both in the Spoken Wikipedia Project and elsewhere, so please feel free to digress as often as you like–I am sure there is a lot I can learn from you.

As for Pordaria and his contributions, I agree that a message should be left for him, letting him know that the quality isn't satisfactory and that some of his recordings may be removed for that reason, even though we appreciate his willingness and efforts. And, of course, there is no reason why he can't re-record them and more closely follow the guidelines given on the project page. I am considering going through the rest of his contributions and assessing those, too, but I don't want to be a head-hunter–do you have any suggestions on how it's best to proceed after dealing with the History of Lebanon recording? Please do take whatever action you feel is best in this situation, or enlist me or someone else to do it for you! I'm new here so I bow to your superior experience :)

Following your mention of it, I used the "plot spectrum" tool in Audacity and, assuming I was looking at a similar thing, agree with what you said about the low level and lack of body. I compared it to other (better) recordings and there was a noticeable difference. I don't know how to correct it or avoid it, but presumably with some searching and requests for assistance, Pordaria should hopefully be able to improve that technical aspect in his recordings.

Anyway, again, thanks for taking the time to look into it, and let me know if you have any suggestions or want me to do some leg work or possibly look into the other recordings. Cheers, Maedin (talk) 14:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

St Lythans
Hi Hassocks5489, I see that you're formating the references on the St Lythans article. I had a look at WP:CITE/ES, as suggested by Gary King, but I'm afraid it went straight over my head. I've tried to follow what you've done on the "Coflein1" ref and I think I may have the idea. Do you want to carry on formating the references by yourself, or shall I have a go at a couple too? Entirely up to you. Obviously I shouldn't be thanking you for the work you're doing on the article, as I don't WP:OWN the page, but thanks. By the way, have you visited St Lythans? Cheers :) Daicaregos (talk) 12:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Hassocks 5489, yep, I'll go with 'a bit complicated'. I've had a go at a few refs. I'm not entirely confident of them though. I noticed that you referenced the rather dubious legend about St Lythans. I didn't quote the whole legend originally for a number of reasons: 1: It's blatently complete rubish. I doubt if anyone over the age of seven believed it, ever. 2: I've heard the same story attributed to other sites and 3: St Lythans is over three miles from the nearest river (the River Ely), which rather stretches the imagination that the story relates to this site. I put the first part of the legend in only because the field (or the cromlech) is supposed to also be known as Maes Y Felin, which fits in with the capstone turning (maes = field, y = the, melin = mill - the first letter undergoes a 'mutation' when followed by the definate article), as The Mill Field. It's more likely, though, that there was a windmill was built in the field at some time, but you never know. nice that you nominated the article, all the same. I wasn't sure how to treat the BBC refs. Is it alright if I leave those to you? I'll carry on with the others. Look forward to your explanation of what you need to look out for and the time-saving tips. Cheers :) Daicaregos (talk) 17:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks. You've been extremely helpful & patient - above & beyond! I guess you can see from the number of edits I made on the article that I didn't use the sandbox at all. So thanks for that too. I don't have more than a passing interest, plus a great deal of awe, in archaeology. I was looking for some information on St Lythans on Wiki and found there was wasn't an article, even though there was one on Tinkinswood only a mile away. So I decided to do something about it. I'll certainly create another one, but not sure which subject yet. It's not going to be soon, though, as I found it quite intense. Those tips are great. Thanks again. All the best. Daicaregos (talk) 21:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Convoy ON-67 nom
Thank you for your nomination! - Mailer Diablo 03:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

...and another...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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