User talk:Hassocks5489/Archives/2010/January

A blast from the past
Hello there! Vox (aka Richard) here - the guy who used to piss everyone off by being a pernickety, niggly git on WP:BAH. Been largely inactive for various reasons, sixth form being one, and I'm still up to my eyeballs in that, but I've had a little while off and wandered back over here. Great to see how far you've taken the church-writing thing: I seem to remember going onto WP:BAH after a trip to Brighton four years ago and having a real whinge about how none of the churches was covered in an article, then going off to write the St Peter's one as a lead. I remember being royally pissed off when I discovered that, while I had got halfway through St Paul's (or was it St Bart's?), you'd written a whole blasted article, and a better one than mine was going to be at that: now things have absolutely exploded! I see also, delving into your userspace, that you're planning to barge into my territory here in Surrey =P

If you do this, is there any chance you could get WP:SURREY back up and running? It's currently classed as inactive and I just don't have the time to restart it. I can also provide you with a certain amount of info regarding St Joseph's, Dorking (my mother was Director of Music there from September '08 to Easter '09, when the parish priest decided to go all trad, then decided he'd rather give into a bullying minority amongst the parishioners and, we have very good reason to believe, a bullying and viciously anti-traditional bishop, who has been heard even to deny the authority of the Pope): Our Lady and St Peter's here in Leatherhead is very much worth visiting and writing up, possessing much fine Arts & Crafts stained glass, and the half-scale prototypes for Eric Gill's Stations of the Cross in Westminster Cathedral. I think I've got some photographs of its exterior on the Commons.

Another one worth mentioning is Our Lady of Consolation with Saint Francis at West Grinstead: it has an unbroken history of Catholic worship, starting out as a humble 16th Century labourer's cottage in which the fiercely Catholic local nobles hid priests (one, Francis Bell, went to Tyburn for his troubles): this is now much extended - it looks 16th Century from the East, Jacobean from the North and large, elegant Georgian from the West - and acts as the presbytery to a small but prosperous stone church, the incumbent of which is a prosperous but not small priest! He is a quite extraordinary character: he started out as an organist - rising to the rank of Sub-Organist at Rochester Cathedral - and became ordained within the CofE, then, when the CofE ordained its first women, he stalked out in protest, bringing his wife and children with him. The Diocese of A&B received him with open arms and accepted his ordination as valid and gave him this church to look after. Little did the dumbing-down brigade realise that they had put the diocese's most traditionalist priest into its most traditionalist parish... he has done a very great deal for the place, waging his own private war on the post-Vatican II liturgy- and chancel-wreckers, as has his wife - there is now a new (well, rebuilt secondhand) pipe organ, and two Tridentine-rite Latin Masses every month. This brings me to a further point: given the church's clear notability, I do recommend that it be one of your/our next articles, and I suggest that we meet at one such Tridentine-rite Mass (a wonderful experience for all). http://www.consolation.org.uk/masstimes.html tells all. Also, the churchyard - a rarity in RC circles - is the last resting place of Hillaire Belloc.

I look forward to hearing back from you. Vox Humana 8' 12:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

trout
I smelt it, don't bring it any closer .... sorry Victuallers (talk) 18:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

A blast from the past
Hello there! Vox (aka Richard) here - the guy who used to piss everyone off by being a pernickety, niggly git on WP:BAH. Been largely inactive for various reasons, sixth form being one, and I'm still up to my eyeballs in that, but I've had a little while off and wandered back over here. Great to see how far you've taken the church-writing thing: I seem to remember going onto WP:BAH after a trip to Brighton four years ago and having a real whinge about how none of the churches was covered in an article, then going off to write the St Peter's one as a lead. I remember being royally pissed off when I discovered that, while I had got halfway through St Paul's (or was it St Bart's?), you'd written a whole blasted article, and a better one than mine was going to be at that: now things have absolutely exploded! I see also, delving into your userspace, that you're planning to barge into my territory here in Surrey =P

If you do this, is there any chance you could get WP:SURREY back up and running? It's currently classed as inactive and I just don't have the time to restart it. I can also provide you with a certain amount of info regarding St Joseph's, Dorking (my mother was Director of Music there from September '08 to Easter '09, when the parish priest decided to go all trad, then decided he'd rather give into a bullying minority amongst the parishioners and, we have very good reason to believe, a bullying and viciously anti-traditional bishop, who has been heard even to deny the authority of the Pope): Our Lady and St Peter's here in Leatherhead is very much worth visiting and writing up, possessing much fine Arts & Crafts stained glass, and the half-scale prototypes for Eric Gill's Stations of the Cross in Westminster Cathedral. I think I've got some photographs of its exterior on the Commons.

Another one worth mentioning is Our Lady of Consolation with Saint Francis at West Grinstead: it has an unbroken history of Catholic worship, starting out as a humble 16th Century labourer's cottage in which the fiercely Catholic local nobles hid priests (one, Francis Bell, went to Tyburn for his troubles): this is now much extended - it looks 16th Century from the East, Jacobean from the North and large, elegant Georgian from the West - and acts as the presbytery to a small but prosperous stone church, the incumbent of which is a prosperous but not small priest! He is a quite extraordinary character: he started out as an organist - rising to the rank of Sub-Organist at Rochester Cathedral - and became ordained within the CofE, then, when the CofE ordained its first women, he stalked out in protest, bringing his wife and children with him. The Diocese of A&B received him with open arms and accepted his ordination as valid and gave him this church to look after. Little did the dumbing-down brigade realise that they had put the diocese's most traditionalist priest into its most traditionalist parish... he has done a very great deal for the place, waging his own private war on the post-Vatican II liturgy- and chancel-wreckers, as has his wife - there is now a new (well, rebuilt secondhand) pipe organ, and two Tridentine-rite Latin Masses every month. This brings me to a further point: given the church's clear notability, I do recommend that it be one of your/our next articles, and I suggest that we meet at one such Tridentine-rite Mass (a wonderful experience for all). http://www.consolation.org.uk/masstimes.html tells all. Also, the churchyard - a rarity in RC circles - is the last resting place of Hillaire Belloc.

I look forward to hearing back from you. Vox Humana 8' 12:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

trout
I smelt it, don't bring it any closer .... sorry Victuallers (talk) 18:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)