User talk:HavokCR

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Solaris (operating system), please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ''Also, there were numerous grammatical errors in the posted changes. Please come to the Talk page to disuss--I'm certain I (or another editor) will be happy to help you polish the copy if you wish.'' &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 03:00, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi. No need to add cites on those changes since the OpenSolaris page already offers a lot about the changes been made, Maybe I should add "See main article". You should, instead, correct my grammatical mistakes instead of reverting the changes. Now, you did nothing and let me do nothing. Thanks. Now the Solaris (operating system) articles still out of date.


 * If it had been that simple, I would have but there were too many problems. I can't remember them all but--off the top of my head--I can recall a few:


 * OpenSolaris source has not been "closed". That can't be done. Someone can certainly fork it into a closed project (if the license allows it) but closing a released version completely? No.


 * Much information, including the sentences on hardware support, were removed. Why wipe out information?


 * Sorry I can't remember more but it's late. If you want to discuss it further, please let me know. &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 04:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You even read it, so, there it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Solaris_(operating_system)&action=historysubmit&diff=387655740&oldid=387636152 . If you read carefully, as you did not, you will see that OpenSolaris, as a project, not as a codebase, was shutdown, was "closed". That IS correct. Also, Solaris (Without the "Open"), is, again, a Closed Source project, that IS correct also, because Oracle holds the copyright on the whole codebase. That article is mixing OpenSolaris with Solaris, with is incorrect, was incorrect and still incorrect. I removed the hardware things because that was OpenSolaris information that do not belong to a Solaris article. I've reviewed the changes and I'm reverting your revert. When you have time, I invite you to read carefully others changes before reverting them. Please allow others to work on Wikipedia also, you're not the only one. I've grammatical errors, I beg you to correct them.


 * The confusion your edits introduced was around the status of Solaris, OpenSolaris and their shared codebase. You also seem to be confusing "closed" (as in "the store is closed") with "closed" (as in "you can't see the Windows source; it's closed"). Here are the facts as I understand them:


 * Oracle didn't "close" the OpenSolaris project; the OpenSolaris Governing Board dissolved it and sent Oracle a notice to that effect


 * OpenSolaris, while no longer being developed/maintained, is still available and is still open-source


 * Oracle seems to want all the OpenSolaris users to switch to Solaris Express


 * Machines that ran Solaris last month will likely still be able to run it


 * I do agree that the OpenSolaris stuff has no business being in the Solaris article unless EVERYTHING is combined but you didn't remove all of it, just some of it.


 * I'm gonna let it slide this time but, if you publish personal attacks against me again, you will find yourself the subject of an administrative action. While I hope this does not happen, I will not condone rudeness and incivility, especially when they are directed at me.


 * In the future, omit remarks like:


 * if you read carefully, as you did not, you will see


 * When you have time, I invite you to read carefully others changes before reverting them


 * allow others to work on Wikipedia also, you're not the only one


 * It sounds like you are saying that I:


 * Am careless


 * Do not examine new changes carefully before editing, and


 * Think I own the place (or at least the articles)


 * These parts of your comments come across as truculent and bellicose and have no place here (see WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL). If you have an accusation to make, go to ANI and make it. If not, stick to discussing the actions, not the people.


 * BTW, you really should sign your comments on your Talk page (by ending each with four tildes, "~" ; it makes the conversation so much easier to read! &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 05:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)