User talk:Hawaii Jim

I have no idea why i am being tied to a user by the name of lost society/ mookie whatever... I am not even from mainland U.S... you can trace my IP and find out for yourself... This is obsurd.

about that user I haven't watched his edits and therefore do not know what he is saying but if he is vandalizing pages or keeps reverting your pages, you can request to have him blocked by one of the administrators but I do not really know what he has done. Sorry. Wikipediarules2221 20:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

3rr
Just so you aware, you are in danger of violating wikipedia's three-revert rule, which stipulates that no user may revert a page more than three times in 24 hours. you are approaching the limit at Bambu; please keep this in mind as you edit. -- he ah  20:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

bambu stuff
linking to the article is not the same as claiming that bambu papers cause cancer; nowhere, in fact, is the claim even being made that bambu papers are directly involved in the suit. rather, as the page says, a manufacturor of bambu is involved in a lawsuit over the process it uses in manufacturing its papers. this is significant, and deserves mention in the article, whether it uses a different process for bambu or not. if you'd like to discuss this on the talk page, that would be great. right now i'm going to semi-protect the pages, as these pages have been subject to constant vandalism over the last few days. (not just the removal of the article link--which i do think is discussion worthy--but also the removal of information from the rolling papers article that puts bambu at the top of the alphabetical list of papers, and things like that, which is clearly spam-oriented vandalism and needs to stop.)

oh, and it's helpful if you sign your name with four tildes ( ~ } after posts on talk pages, so we can all tell who you are and when you posted.

cheers

-- he ah  21:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent vandalism has shown you to be intent on doing harm to Wikipedia. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

'''This user is just Lost Society (Bambu Employee) using a new AKA to modify pages. Check his IP and his posting history...'''

The last fake user that Lost Society set up was called "Mookie Chookie". Here is the text from Mookie's page: "I work at a smoke shop in New York city named Shisha at 171 West 4th Street in Manhattan. I sell papers and other smoking products all day and am quite familiar with all the brands and their histories/ownership having been a buyer for a good 20 years. Go Knicks!"

BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS FALSE USER LOST SOCIETY / HAWAII JIM / ET AL...
tried calling user as per claim that he works for Shisha in NYC,

Shisha International 171 W 4th St New York, NY 10014

(212) 229-0562

Store manager "Elias" said that this post was not known to them, and store had been open for 6 years (not 20).

Please explain why you put this post, and are using a similar IP to user Lostsociety, and have only posted promotional language and images for Bambu?

FYI: Mookie / Lost Society then tried to delete my text on his page to cover his tracks (didn't work).

1) Lostsociety claims they “called Miguel Y Costas” and found out that Abadie papers were discontinued. He says this because he works for Bambu, who has all of their papers made by Miguel Y Costas. However in the USA, Abadie is a trademark of Republic Tobacco (a competitor of Miguel Y Costas), and it is certainly not discontinued. This was only posted so that he could justify removing Abadie from the rolling paper list to make Bambu the top slot.

2) Lostsociety has posted 14 images of Bambu papers and products. Each time he makes incorrect claims such as “image from Bambu website”. However the images are not found on the Bambu website and are very clearly promotional images

3) Lostsociety continually reverts and posts promotional language such as “Bambu papers are the best in the world” type comments (Bambu are the #1 selling rolling paper in the Carribean, Bambu are the #1 selling paper, Bambu is the last independent company, Bambu rules, etc..). He continually adds these comments to various rolling paper pages (Bambu, Rolling Papers, Miguel Y Costas, Juicy Jays and others, and undoes anyone’s changes that removes or alters this promotional language

4) Lostsociety posts slanderous and defamatory text on brands that compete with Bambu.

5) Lostsociety posts under 3 names, all with the same IP address and all have the same tactic of promoting Bambu papers above all others

6) When cornered, Lostsociety tries to deflect blame by saying that people who revert or alter his promotional language & image posts work for Bambu competitors (yes, it’s all one big conspiracy against Bambu, this is classic caught-blame-others psychology).

7) All of the posts of Lostsociety / Mookiechookie / Hawii Jim are Bambu related; ie ONLY Bambu, Big Bambu, Rolling Papers and deragatory comments to competing brands such as Abadie (note, now he'll probably do some fake posts on other pages to try and cover his tracks).

8) Lost Society's IP has been banned for vandalism, then he used a new IP and got banned again, then he used an AOL Dialup account, then the pages were getting SProtected so he set up a new user named Hawaii Jim, and he will do this all over again when Hawaii Jim gets banned :(

9) Here are some of their posts;

05:26, 7 August 2006 Hawaii Jim (Talk | contribs) (Hi, I do work for Miguel y Costas. After browsing the rolling paper site, I was angered to see Bambu being tied into the M&G lawsuit, for this is not the case. As well Bambu is NOT sold in Europe.)

05:31, 7 August 2006 Hawaii Jim (Talk | contribs) (M & G own rights to Bambu in Spain, but they do not sell it whatsoever. MrTobacco is mis-informed. As well, as the other user has stated, Bambu papers are produced in a different fashion at the M&G fa)

23:34, 28 July 2006 172.194.110.157 (Talk) (i work with Bambu's plant in argentina, the article which you referenced is Miguel y Costas own brand, smoking. They use a different "cheeper" process with this brand.Bambu's papers are more expensive)

20:09, 26 June 2006 Mooki chooki (Talk | contribs) (I called Bambu, as well as others who sell there flavored papers and there was never a public retration letter, nor have they claimed they flavors to be 100% natural. Mr.Tobacco works for Juicy Jay)

21:24, 19 June 2006 Lostsociety (Talk | contribs) (Stop changing the page. I have added images which are logos of the bambu rolling paper company and are completely legal to use for an internet encyclopedia such as wikipedia; I dont not work for bambu)

05:41, 7 August 2006 Hawaii Jim (Talk | contribs) (There is no reference whatsoever that Bambu is tied to an unmaterialized lawsuit. MrTobacco's facts are utterly wrong. He doesnt know about M&G's rolling paper production, and uses shody references.)

08:28, 27 June 2006 Lostsociety (Talk | contribs) (Abadie is a discontinued brand. I checked on the internet and called Miguel Y Costas)

20:09, 26 June 2006 Mooki chooki (Talk | contribs) (I called Bambu, as well as others who sell there flavored papers and there was never a public retration letter, nor have they claimed they flavors to be 100% natural. Mr.Tobacco works for Juicy Jay)

15:37, 25 May 2006 Lostsociety (Talk | contribs) (Bambu is the best rolling paper. Whoever that guy is that thinks the other dude works for the company is crazy. He is right!)

207.237.30.253 (Talk) (As I have said before, Bambu using a higher end making process for their papers in comparison to Miguel y Costas's Smoking brand. I know this for fact. Call up Miguel y Costas, they will tell you. LZ) 172.194.110.157 (Talk) (i work with Bambu's plant in argentina, the article which you referenced is Miguel y Costas own brand, smoking. They use a different "cheeper" process with this brand.Bambu's papers are more expensive)

For each one of these silly posts I went in and added proof such as links to articles which show Miquel Y Costas is the sole producer of Bambu worldwide, a copy of a leter which showed that Bambu had indeed advertised their flavored papers as 100% natural and then later admitted they contained Saccharin, links showing Miquel Y Costas sells Bambu directly in Europe etc.. The number of aliases this one guy uses is amazing. Their sales of Bambu must be slow for them to have so much time on their hands. In my collection I have 22 packs of Bambu papers. Most are made in Spain and some are made in Argentina. The ones made in Argentina say the contents were made in Spain and thus they were only packaged in Argentina. So when these guys try to say they either don't work for Bambu - or suddenly change that to they do work for Miquel Y Costas in Argentina, it doesn't really matter. Everything in the corresponding Wiki articles seems to be correct. There has been nothing offered to counter their validity other then a bunch of seemingly false posts by someone using various AKA's.

In your posts re Bambu & Miquel you mention a lawsuit but this is actually a CRIMINAL CASE WHERE THE PRESIDENT OF MIQUEL Y COSTAS IS FACING 4 YEARS IN JAIL - AS IS ONE OF HIS CO WORKERS - READ THE ARTICLE IN SPANISH AND YOU WILL SEE THIS VERY CLEAR - IT'S WAY BEYOND A LAWSUIT - IT'S A CRIMINAL MATTER! I hope this is very clear, I am reading news articles and citing them very clearly. The world should know of this matter in my humble opinion, Michael

--Mrtobacco 23:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I dont have any idea why i am being connected to this individual Lost Society. This is a disgrace that such a moron is allowed to make posts on a respected site such as Wikipedia.

Answer: Read your posts and the notes you have put in - you are clearly the same person as Lost Society and the other AKA's.  Then you try to deflect blame by saying I work for Imperial or Rizla etc.. which is preposterous! All that Wiki readers want is the truth - and citing articles and the truth is all that will set you free....

ADDITIONAL PROOF OF FRAUD
Here is your posting history, not sure if you realize that everyone can see you admit to work for a rolling paper company. The next time you set up a new fake user name please at least pretend to be unbiased (geez, can't you just go back to your job and stop spending all your time trying to put up false posts about your papers on Wiki? - and before you laugh at me, no I have nothing better to do then this, it's my hobby as you know, want to hire me at your paper company?)

21:08, 15 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Hawaii Jim

20:35, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) Bambu

20:35, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Hawaii Jim

20:33, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Zzuuzz

20:23, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) Bambu

20:22, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Wikipediarules2221

20:20, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Hawaii Jim

06:16, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Heah

06:12, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Heah (→Mr.Tobacco is tarnishing Wikipedia with insubordinate claims)

06:12, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Heah

06:11, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Heah

06:11, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Heah

06:00, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) User talk:Zzuuzz

05:41, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) Rolling papers (There is no reference whatsoever that Bambu is tied to an unmaterialized lawsuit. MrTobacco's facts are utterly wrong. He doesnt know about M&G's rolling paper production, and uses shody references.)

05:31, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) Bambu (M & G own rights to Bambu in Spain, but they do not sell it whatsoever. MrTobacco is mis-informed. As well, as the other user has stated, Bambu papers are produced in a different fashion at the M&G fa)

05:26, 7 August 2006 (hist) (diff) Bambu (Hi, I do work for Miguel y Costas. After browsing the rolling paper site, I was angered to see Bambu being tied into the M&G lawsuit, for this is not the case. As well Bambu is NOT sold in Europe.)