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 * Hayalperest · (talk · contribs · deleted · cross-wiki ·  · count ·  · [ logs] · [ block log] · [ lu] · rfar · rfc · rfcu · ssp · spi · search an, ani, cn, an3 ) ( assign permissions )
 * Hi, I am a very regular contributer to Wiki and am usually based on foriegn articles that get a lot of vandalism and 'incorrect' good-faith edits. I monitor articles on a frequent basis and try to help new editors when I have seen that they are consistantly doing something incorrectly - see my talk page. Thanks Hayalperest (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ —DoRD (talk) 20:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Harun Tekin (footballer)


The article Harun Tekin (footballer) has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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 * Hi, Turkish Football Fed. source now added. Thanks, Hayalperest

Bursaspor
I apologize for my mistake - I meant to include that section in my rewrite, but I forgot about it! Do you have any more interesting facts about the clubs history? The club website isn't very thorough. Also, do you have a source backing up their state imposed promotion? I might have passed over it on their website - I'll check again - but if you have a different source please add it :)

Thank you, Invisibletr (talk) 13:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

İbrahim Kaş - "Improvements"
Hi there HAYAL, VASCO here,

regarding what you did in this player, please read this (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlinking#Overlinking). Please, once is enough for every WP link.

Thank you for your work, have a nice week from Portugal,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:53, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Semi protection Consistant and very excessive vandalism and spam from IP addresses and new users, please see recent history. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 20:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC))
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Semi-protected&#32;for a period of 1 week, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 20:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Linking to Turkish Football Federation website
Hello Hayalperest. Thank you for working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Turkish football. I've noticed that you are using the TFF website as a source for player biographies (it is a great site for this). However, you are linking the Turkish-language version of the pages (i.e., http://www.tff.org/Default.aspx?pageId=30&kisiId=21617). If you change the pageId= paramter to 526 (i.e., http://www.tff.org/Default.aspx?pageId=526&kisiId=21617) the page will appear in English, which is much easier for most Wikipedia users to read. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 17:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Jogurney, yes I completely agree about using the English version. I guess I tend to use the default Turkish as it is generally a bit more up-to-date, and gets updated quicker, but I will make sure I add the English version in future. Many Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 10:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC))

Proposed deletion of Serdar Gürler


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 * Did not play a single game in a fully-professional league and therefore fails WP:ATHLETE

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Arda Turan
Selam. You've updated faster than me:)... Ama Tuncay Şanlı'yı güncelleme hızıma yetişemedin:P... Türkçe Vikipedi'de bu tip maddeler sürekli vandallanıyor (bozuluyor). Milli takım gollerini de Türkçe Viki'de ben güncellemeye çalışıyorum. TFF.org'a çok şey borçluyuz vallah... Kolay gelsin, regards...-- Sabri76' message  21:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello Sabri76, selam, thank you for your kind message. Sometimes I spent a lot of time on here and get to do updates very quickly and I guess I did beat you to a few pages ;)

You are right about the Turkish Viki... It is very bad for accuracy and does get vandalised a lot. I'll see you around on pages we both update lol. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 22:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)) PS (En Buyuk Turkiye...) :D

Tuncay
Please accept my apologies for deleting your other edits when I reverted to the last version with Tuncay still at Middlesbrough. What with the vandalism and the copyediting going on at the same time, I thought it would be quickest to go a long way back, and didn't realise how much other work you'd done in the meantime. Hopefully you'll be able to copy it back from the older version. Or if there's anything you'd like me to help with, tidying up the references or whatever, please ask. Again, sorry :-( Struway2 (talk) 17:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, dont worry about it. I cant believe how crazy wiki goes just by an announcement of a 'possible' signing - its crazy! Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 22:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC))

Current requests for protection/Tuncay
Semi protection Hi I want to request protection for Tuncay Sanli's page. This article is being vandalised heavily and consistantly. It did get 3-day semi protection a couple of weeks back, and not only did it stop during the three days, but the IP vandaliser's didnt come back for like a week after! I believe it should have a much longer semi-protection. Some user's are added stupid and libel info too, which is completely unrelated to the article. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC))
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Semi-protected&#32;for a period of 1 week, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. — Jake   Wartenberg  17:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Tuncay Sanli
Firstly he hasn't moved to Stoke yet and also please stop readding his birth place to the date of birth bracket. You'll see that Wikipedia's best articles such as John Wark and Gilberto Silva don't have this. Spiderone 16:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Its the first time that I've added the update to his club info! Also see the reference ive added. confirmation on sky sports.(Hayalperest (talk) 16:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC))
 * I apologise. Spiderone  16:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist
www.antu.com

Hi, I was trying to update a page and this website seemed to be blocked. I am not sure why?

I was trying to add the links to Tuncay Sanli's page. Although the site is in Turkish it is a site run in conjunction with Fenerbahce football club. It is one of their sponsors. I was trying to use the links: antu.com/AntuHaberOku.aspx?ID=5146 and antu.com/AntuHaberOku.aspx?ID=8482 as it shows the list's of 'Player of the Year' Awards, awarded for the Fenerbahce footballers. Antu is the sponsor/organiser of the Awards, hence why I was trying to link to the official site.

Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC))
 * This site was blacklisted for cross-wiki spamming, see here. However, I am inclined to grant this request and will do so in around a week unless I see a reason not to. Stifle (talk) 09:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Heres an Idea; Since Our readers are better served with english references and links, try;
 * http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=antu.com%2FAntuHaberOku.aspx%3FID%3D8482&sl=tr&tl=en&history_state0=
 * Since translate.google.com is not blacklisted you can use the origional (now translated) article. Cheers --Hu12 (talk) 18:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, yes it would be good if it could be un-blocked as the site can then be referenced to all players at the club, etc. Also, thats a good idea about the google-translate tool too. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 11:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC))
 * See EL. No reason for whitelisting Turkish content on the English-language Wikipedia, as English language content is preferred. Use translate.google.com. cheers--Hu12 (talk) 19:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Agree that having English is better, but some websites translate very badly using the Google-Translate tool. It is effective, but I have checked with the Antu site, and the translation isnt very good. Infact it is pretty bad, it hasn't even translated a lot of the words. I believe it would still be beneficial to have the original site as a reference. I do not believe that this will be detrimental to Wiki. Many pages have foriegn language references, if there are no official site's with the English equivalent. Given the reason for wanting to get *this* site unblocked (ie. as it is the official sponsor and the company that gives the awards), I would rather use Antu instead of google translate, as that would mean I have to translate every page for *each* player's awards which are handed out *each* season. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 20:27, 23 August 2009 (UTC))
 * I know your fairly new (since june), so let me explain. Its first a resticted link (see #2), this is meta-blacklisted. Additionaly it is not an official link of either articles subject (per WP:EL). Thirdly being both the previous, its is not English language content. In addition I've provided a reasonable alternative, which is available now and in english. Perhaps your request is beter served on the Turkish Wikipedia ? --Hu12 (talk) 22:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No probs... If Wiki rules will not allow this site to be unblocked, then that is the rules, and that is that..? Am a little dissapointed but I am happy to use the alternative Google-Translate if that is what is the only available way to link to the antu.com site. Thank you for your time. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 23:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC))

Current requests for protection/Tuncay
Temporary semi-protection Temporary protection for a couple of days is needed due to vandalism from IP addresses. Do not expect it to continue after 48-72 hours due to nature of article (current footballer speculation). Today the page has had sections blanked and changed from many different IP's. Thus should stop in a couple of days. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 17:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC))
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Semi-protected for a period of three days.  Malinaccier ( talk ) 17:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Arda Turan

 * Hello Ozanozan

I just wanted to say thank you for your contributions to wiki but I have to ask why do you consistantly delete people's edits from the Arda Turan page?

While it is good that you undo vandalism, many edits that you have un-done are not. Wikipedia is a neutral source of information and does not take sides. For example, my edits that I added to Arda Turan's page were more up to date and provided a more in-depth and enhanced information page for him. I updated his club statistics and added the values correctly, as the values before were added wrong. I do not understand why you feel that you needed to delete this. Also I made the headings clickable - such as making 'League' into 'Süper Lig'.

There is no reason that this should be undone, as the information added is correct. If you continue to 'Vandalise' his page, and un-do other people's CORRECT edits, then I will report you for it and you would be banned. I do not want to do this, but you are causing unneeded disruption when, instead, the time could be used to update his page or achievements and recent details, such as the fact that he is now captain, etc, etc.

Thank you for taking time to read this. Don't forget, we are both here to help make Wikipedia article's better, not destroy other peoples work and effort.

Regards, (Hayalperest (talk) 12:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC))


 * No reply from Ozanozan - blanked his talk page...? Hmmmm. (Hayalperest (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC))

Current requests for protection/Arda Turan
Semi protection Consistant Vandalism and spam from IP addresses and new users, please see recent history. Regards Hayalperest (talk) 21:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Semi-protected&#32;for a period of 3 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Rjd0060 (talk) 23:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hepsi
The individual Hepsi band members fail WP:MUSIC as individuals notable for their work in only one musical ensemble, and with no notable solo careers. As such they should be redirected to the main Hepsi article. Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, I've checked the WP:Music and in the first box, it stats that a musician is notable if they have had sucess such as had their music in the charts. "Hepsi" the group, have had, and thus each member should have a page created? IE/ for more info on them as individuals such as their DOB's, where they grew up, how old they were when they released the music etc. Otherwise, surely that would be like saying certain members from "Westlife" shouldnt have their own page as some of them havent had solo careers... ? Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 17:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)) (Hayalperest (talk))

That section refers to albums by the individuals as entertainers, not albums by the band as a whole - if it was otherwise we'd have articles on musicians from every band that passes that rule. Using Westlife as the example - Nicky Byrne was a professional footballer, Kian Egan is otherwise non-notable (and so I've just redirected him to the westlife article), Mark Feehily has independent coverage by third-party sources and passes WP:BIO if not WP:MUSIC, Shane Thingy was also non-notable and so I've redirected. Ironholds (talk) 17:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

In regards to solo careers - the solo careers themselves need to pass WP:MUSIC, otherwise it doesn't really count. Simply announcing that someone is thinking of a solo career, or have started one but has no "hits", for example, is not good enough. Ironholds (talk) 17:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, I understand and with re-directing a couple of the Westlife boys that is fair. If that is the rule than it should be enforced consistantly, and with those who have non-notable indiviual careers. So yes I agree with you. I was led to believe that along with Westlife amongst others, that all the individuals from the band could have their own pages. At least Gülçin Ergül should have an individual page as she has now gone solo and left the group Hepsi...? Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 17:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC))


 * Yeah, the problem is that people don't always go to the pages with enforcement in mind. If you find any others you think should be redirected, drop me a line on my talkpage and I'll take a look. In regards to her solo career - that career must itself pass WP:MUSIC. If her solo career has resulted in songs that go onto the official charts, for example, then that's fine. Ironholds (talk) 17:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yea, cheers. Regards (Hayalperest (talk) 17:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC))

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 * Hello, thanks for pointing that out, fixed it as soon as realised. I think I was being a bit dozy! Regards, Hayalperest (Hayalperest (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC))

Karadeniz

 * Dear Hayalperest,

It's a pleasure to be the first to type for your discussion page. I have checked your recent changes on Batuhan Karadeniz's article and I am very happy that there are someone who contributes the articles about Turkish football. However, I have some concerns about those, as well.

I could get that you have edited the article in order to keep it up-to-date, but I could not get why you have removed some sections despite they are referenced by paper news/articles. For instance, I have seen that you changed the playing style section, but you did not strengthen your citations with decent references, instead just kept the existing reference which does not include the words you typed. And this is not even applicable cause that reference is considerably old one when Karadeniz was just a 15 year-old lad and about 6'1,5", which is about 2 inches shorter than today!

Actually, I do agree with your contributions that Karadeniz is stands at 6'3, has a respectable aerial ability, but we must develop the articles in accordance with Wikipedia Policies. Wikipedia is a neutral publication, does take no sides, and against the subjective adjectives over the articles such as Karadeniz to have a "great" aerial ability.

More over, I have noticed that you have completely removed the controversy section. I really can not get why you did that without discussing the terms in "discussion page" first. The thing you did is like you just ignore the incidents which Karadeniz caused. I was about to add the Eskişehir incidents lately and now there is nothing in the article.

Please discuss the significant changes on the articles before you implement them.

Thanks for reading,

Umi1903 (talk) 12:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello Umi, thank you for your message.

I generally spend my time updating details and facts and spelling errors etc. I think what you are refering to, with the changes I made, is that the speculative accusations were very outdated and certain incidents had since been ended and concluded, and thus were now shown to be irrelevent, hence why they were removed.

However, I do agree with the fact that just because someone is 6'3, does not neccessarily mean they are actually 'great' in the air!

Regards

Hayalperest (Hayalperest (talk) 21:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC))

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