User talk:Haylad

Hello Haylad There isn’t anything contained in the edit that is promotional. I’ve seen many of the things you’ve written and you have your facts wrong! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dell Corei3 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Summaries are nice.
Hi User:Haylad, I'm Daniel and I'll love to cheerfully share something with you.

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You are doing a great job.

Danidamiobi (talk) 13:50, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

OK. I will take note of that. Haylad (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * This appears to be your first article. I shan't repeat what was said above, but write in your own words. talk to ! dave 16:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Help me!
Please help me with moving an article from my user page/sandbox to main space. Thank

Haylad (talk) 00:51, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If you are talking about Draft:Adeolu Akande, I have submitted it for review. A reviewer will take a look at it when they have a moment. Please note that we are all volunteers here and there are quite a few other drafts waiting to be reviewed as well. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Majora (talk) 04:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You usually use the 'move' tab and in the dropdown at the left select '(Main)'.
 * What is the article name?
 * --Gryllida (talk) 04:30, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

The issues have been sorted. Thanks so much, I appreciate it. Haylad (talk) 00:26, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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Haylad/sandbox/Adebayo Adelabu
I don't know what you were trying to do, but you created an article Haylad/sandbox/Adebayo Adelabu which appears to be about an Engineer and former Basketball called Ahmadu Musa Kida, not Adebayo Adelabu at all. We already have an article on Adebayo Adelabu who appears to be an accountant. Please sort this mess out ASAP - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 11:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I have realised this mess, please how do I sort it out?

Haylad (talk) 19:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC)


 * 1) Who is the article about? I assume it is not Adebayo Adelabu? is it Ahmadu Musa Kida or Ahmadu Musa Kids - as his name changes in the article? - What is he normally called - i.e, is "Musa" part of his WP:Common name in English? or is it just Ahmadu Kida or Ahmadu Kids?
 * 2) Move the article to whatever the common name is - without the Haylad, or the sandbox, or the /'s - you moved the article to the current place, so should be able to move it again
 * 3) Ask for the existing name, which will be kept as a redirect, to be deleted - add  to the Haylad/sandbox/Adebayo Adelabu page - AFTER you have moved it to the new title, and explain that the previous title was a mistake in your edit summary
 * Any problems, or questions, I will try to answer tomorrow, as I am off now - Arjayay (talk) 18:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the instructions. I have sorted it out. You can check to confirm if I did it rightly. Thanks again. -Haylad (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks OK to me, and the old page has been deleted, but I have tagged the article as uncategorized - Arjayay (talk) 11:21, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I can see the Uncategorized tag, what is to be done now? I don't understand the uncategorized tag? What did I do wrong? So I wouldn't make such errors again. Thanks -Haylad (talk) 15:06, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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Wowwwww
Alaf! Your userpage is amazinnnnng! The user boxes! I love it and I'm so taking things with me. Why did I not see these all these while. May his grace spring more of His love in our hearts in Jesus name. Amen Danidamiobi (talk) 03:12, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks FAM. Haylad (talk) 18:53, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Onome Akinbode-James
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Hi, It is nice to meet you too Onel5969. I must say I like your Username.

I have removed the deletion tag and I have indicated the reasons I have for the page not to be deleted on the talk page. I will seek to improve the page in line with relevant criterion. I will love you to help improve the page the best way you can as I have kept so much effort in writing it.

Again, I feel there is something wrong in the way the Sports notability is being portrayed. There is a bias against sporting professionals in Africa, especially basketball players in Africa. My reason for saying this is that the WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH doesn't have the players that ply their trade in Africa in view. There is a FIBA Afroleague basketball championship going on. I intend to write about teams and players that participated in this tournament; but with the WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH in view, that will not possible. I feel strongly that this needs to be addressed, the Wikimedia Foundation is concerned about Africans writing about Africa(ns) for Africans and the Foundation is working on closing the content gap between Africa and the rest of the world. I feel such notability criterion as WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH will deter Africans from writing or creating content on wikipedia. I feel with this Notability criterion as this 1.2 billion people who stay in Africa are being denied of relatable information because of notability rules such WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH that was 'probably' decided by those who know little about Africa.

I know you didn't make the WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH, but from your Userpage I can see you are a very experienced Wikipedian. Kindly direct me to the discussion page where I can share my thoughts.

I'm open to corrections if I'm being ignorant of any information as I wrote this with pain in my heart.

Thanks in Advance

Haylad (talk) 23:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Those are all excellent points. Frankly, I'm not sure the best place to begin a discussion. WP has there general notability guidelines, and their "specialty guidelines" (SG's), like WP:NCOLLATH.  I think if you ask a question at WP:Teahouse, someone might be able to point you to the best forum. If you do, let me know, as I'd like to participate in that discussion. I do quite a bit of reviewing of articles having to do with African topics, and they do suffer from our general notability guidelines, as well as the way the vast majority of editors do their research... in other words, online.  There's a very good article at WP:WORLDVIEW, which talks about this. There's also WP:IAR, and in the spirit of that, and because of the quality of your article, I've reviewed it.  But do please pursue the discussion based on what you wrote above, I feel it's worthwhile. Onel 5969  TT me 23:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I will follow sports notability guidelines up when the day breaks here in Nigeria and will inform you where the discussion is taking place. Thank you also for reviewing my article. I do really appreciate it.

Haylad (talk) 01:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks, I just found out Mary Jackson (engineer) is the first black woman to have a Ph.d in Aerospace Engineering. I am sorry for making the mistake as I have corrected it. Thanks for pointing it out. Cheers

Haylad (talk) 00:03, 30 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello Haylad. Thanks for creating the Page for Wendy Okolo and for all the work you're doing to showcase Nigerians on Wikipedia.

I was going to say that the edit you just made was not needed and that she was the first Black woman to graduate with a Ph.D. in Aerospace engineering from that University but then I did one last check and found out that the University doesn't have any news release to corroborate this. Even though I'm 99% sure this is true since I attended the same university and I even know her personally, without anything official from the university, we just can't say for sure. The other confusing thing is that people are saying she is the first black woman to get a Ph.D. in Aerospace engineering. This is not the case because Jeanette Epps got hers in 2000 and I'm not even sure that she was the first. I think someone made an honest mistake and misquoted this article but then people ran with that error and it has become this big mess. Anyway, please continue the good work.NaijAmericanScientist (talk) 14:53, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words, I must acknowledge that she is not the first black woman with a Ph.d in Aerospace Engineering. She being the first black woman to have a Ph.d in Aerospace Engineering from her University is not meant to be part of the content on her page. I will say, it is unfair to other people that have excelled in various fields of study that are of different races. You claim you know her personally, this might make you have a bias towards her, I love you to check the Neutral Point of View, it explains how Wikipedia manages fairness. I also want to know if you reside in Nigeria? as I want you join the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. You're doing a Great job, please keep it up.

Please bear with me for my late reply.

Haylad (talk) 11:33, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

HayladThank you. I don't live in Nigeria at the moment, I live in North Carolina but would love to join the Nigerian Wiki group. I still have different opinions about Wendy's page but I understand your point and think that part should stay as it is. As for Wikipedia's neutrality and fairness policy, I am fully aware and I understand(I'm part of the current Wikiscientists Cohort and we have discussed this at length). Personally, I think that as long as you do things in a professional manner and it's not a super close personal relationship (like a very close friend, or immediate family member), there could actually be some value to such. This issue is a perfect example. Initially, her page was linked to the wrong University Because we were both PhD students at the same University, I was able to correct this. Someone who didn't know her may have had a hard time catching that and I'm happy that I did. I made sure that I did not add any piece of information without a credible independent source and I think that's the kind of standard that needs to be maintained. Anyway, it's nice to talk to you. Hopefully, we'll have some things to work on together soon.NaijAmericanScientist (talk) 15:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for being interested in joining the Wiki Nigeria Group. Kindly send a mail to Haylad0896@gmaildotcom.Its my personal mail. There is so much you can help us with. Great to have you join us.

Haylad (talk) 02:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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It is disturbing and I am deeply offended that I am being blocked having recreated an article that wasn’t similar in anyway. It’s not a crime to create an article that has been deleted before. BTW, I wasn't notified on my talk page or any of my notifications channel that I have an SPI investigation going on. I was blocked some hours back and I still don't understand why. It is imperative I let you know I have nothing to do with the User:Oreratile1207 account. I put so much efforts in following all Wikipedia policies and I consider your actions as unfair and unjust. I kindly ask of you to unblock my account as soon possible as I was creating an article when you blocked me.

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Unblock Request
What is your connection to McHael-10? You're both on the same IP address occasionally. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:44, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm the past lead of a University Wiki club Wikimedia Fan Club, University of Ilorin. User: McHael-10 is a club member and we attend edit-a-thons together. Michael is also my course mate in the same university and we both stay in the same hostel building. Haylad (talk) 11:11, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the explanation. I don't really know what to say, though.  Why are different accounts creating articles on this person?  Do you know any of the other people who are doing this?  If you're all part of a club, and you're doing this as a group, it could look like sock puppetry. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:35, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I do not know any other account creating articles about the person. I didnt even know about earlier frequent creations of the article until my article was flagged for speedy deletion unjustly.

Haylad (talk) 13:51, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


 * And how are you associated with the subject of the article, Dremo? Huon (talk) 16:04, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I am not associated with Dremo.

Haylad (talk) 16:13, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Then how do you know his exact birthdate? I don't see that mentioned in any of the cited sources. Huon (talk) 16:30, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I am afraid you haven't seen this link.
 * Hi Please is there anything more needed? I want say I personally met Haylad at a Wikipedia function. His re-creation of Dremo's article is clearly ill-timed. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:36, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I did see the source Haylad presents here for the birthdate. It gives the year of birth, but not the day or month. So it's obviously not where that information could have come from. Since Haylad cannot provide the source on request and gives an obviously incorrect explanation instead, I consider it likely that that information came directly from Dremo and that the page is a work for hire, with Haylad the latest of several persons hired for the same job. Huon (talk) 22:07, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , You should assume good for them not the worst. What if they made up the date? Some people who are inexperienced do not regard minor facts like DOB with any importance like we do and can easily fill it with unverifiable figures. It's now clear Haylad did not control the accounts in the SPI which he's blocked for and since there's no source for the full date, it's a stretch to conclude that the day and month are "correct" and "from the subject." – Ammarpad (talk) 07:29, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , if you read the dialogue above, I asked them about the DOB, giving them a chance to explain where it came from, either the subject or their imagination (or somewhere else). They gave an obviously wrong answer. It's difficult to "assume good" in such a case; if your hypothesis that they faked the DOB is correct, I'd object to an unblock just as much as if they hid that they were paid to write this article. Huon (talk) 07:37, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I see what you mean. Actually all I know is that Haylad is a good-faith editor and and here for the good reasons. I don't know the content of the recreated article (but I knew the older version). So now what does he need to do to get unblocked?. What they did was indeed serious either way, but he might not know the gravity of that. This is apparently his first block and was blocked for sockpuppetry which is now proven not be the case. (pinging, not sure if you're watching the page) – Ammarpad (talk) 08:01, 4 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Your consideration and conclusion of me being Hired to write the Dremo article are Untrue. You pointed out that the link I sent didn't indicate the subjects (Dremo) Birthday. You asked for birthdate and I presented the article stating the year. Let me remind you that I no longer have access to the article (since it has been unjustly deleted once again), so ways through which I can prove things on the article are limited right now. I can’t even remember the content of the article anymore. Let me refer you to the following links , and if you are in need of more links you can google 'Dremo date of Birth'. I can't attest that these links are on the article I created as I do not have access to the article and was in a rush in the creation of the article.

This is to dispute your comment of me being informed by the subject (Dremo) of his date of Birth as you can see his Birthday is public Knowledge. It is imperative I let you know your statements are untrue, unjust and Unfair. I am being blocked for sockpuppetry which I am not guilty of. Now you have advanced into accusing me of Paid Editing, without any proof. I am not a paid editor and will not be a paid editor. It is also imperative I let you know your comments proves the Systemic bias against African Editors. I lead a Wikimedia University club Wikimedia Fan Club, University of Ilorin, we took out a weekend to create articles for Nigerian Musical acts who are not represented on Wikipedia and as the Leader, I decided to create the Dremo Article in order to participate in the activity. It is essential I let you know your comments above are False. Trying to keep me blocked without justification (and forcing more untrue allegations on me) is a complete abuse power. Haylad (talk) 14:06, 4 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Your consideration and conclusion of me being Hired to write the Dremo article are Untrue. You pointed out that the link I sent didn't indicate the subjects (Dremo) Birthday. You asked for birthdate and I presented the article stating the year. Let me remind you that I no longer have access to the article (since it has been unjustly deleted once again), so ways through which I can prove things on the article are limited right now. I can’t even remember the content of the article anymore. Let me refer you to the following links , and if you are in need of more links you can google 'Dremo date of Birth'. I can't attest that these links are on the article I created as I do not have access to the article and was in a rush in the creation of the article.

This is to dispute your comment of me being informed by the subject (Dremo) of his date of Birth as you can see his Birthday is public Knowledge. It is imperative I let you know your statements are untrue, unjust and Unfair. I am being blocked for sockpuppetry which I am not guilty of. Now you have advanced into accusing me of Paid Editing, without any proof. I am not a paid editor and will not be a paid editor. It is also imperative I let you know your comments proves the Systemic bias against African Editors. I lead a Wikimedia University club Wikimedia Fan Club, University of Ilorin, we took out a weekend to create articles for Nigerian Musical acts who are not represented on Wikipedia and as the Leader, I decided to create the Dremo Article in order to participate in the activity. It is essential I let you know your comments above are False. Trying to keep me blocked without justification (and forcing more untrue allegations on me) is a complete abuse power. Haylad (talk) 15:17, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I specifically asked for the "exact birthdate", which is clearly not just the year. As I said above, I checked all cited sources (and, for good measure, the website given in the infobox), and none of them gave the exact birthdate. None of the sources presented here are reliable (in fact, they disagree on the birthdate and apparently all get it wrong), and more to the point, none of them were cited in the article. After some additional digging it seems possible that the information comes from a website not cited in the article, but then I'd have to wonder about your understanding of WP:IRS and WP:BLP. Huon (talk) 23:33, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay...after going through this whole shenanigan, it indeed sounds like some abuse of power. I can't believe that the only reasons given by the declining admin revolve around: "...I don't think", "...I think...". Far too many bad faith assumptions too!, What exactly do you want from this user? Do you have solid evidence or clear editing behaviour (that you can state here) that proves that this user is guilty of sockpuppetry or paid editing? Or this case is entirely based on what you all think? Or perhaps, this is just some revenge project from the admin cartel because the user dared to challenge the wrong decision of your admin friend/boss and won? What exactly seems to be the problem here? Because this persistent and petty goalpost shifting doesn't make sense to me.
 * Last I checked, you can't block a user because of a single incidence of misapplication of Wikipedia policies (if that is even the case), unless they've consistently flouted the rules and disrupted the encyclopaedia (especially after several warnings). This user has made more edits and created more articles than "Dremo"and most of these contributions have been good. The fact that all questions centre on the Dremo article, and without any concrete evidence, tells me that this is a revenge action....and it is just ridiculous. cc   --Jamie Tubers (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * , I do not have access to the deleted article I created and your claims above, doesn't dispute that his Birth date (month and day) can be easily accessed on google, I kept only an interview where the Subject (Dremo) was asked about the year he was born and he confirmed in the interview with his age. You claim the sources I posted for his birth date are not reliable; maybe my understanding of WP:IRS and WP:BLP is still weak and I constantly try to improve my Knowledge about Notability and Reliability. Apologies, if that is my sin in all of this.

However, I am repeating it again that I wasn’t contacted by the subject to recreate his deleted article. I'm not associated with the subject (Dremo) and I have never been an Hired editor. It is unfair to accuse me of being Hired by him when I have never been Hired by anybody to create content on wikipedia. I have never kept a promotional content on wikipedia and I never kept any promotional content in the Dremo article I created. You can check the previous article I have edited and you will see my records in removing promotional content from Nigerian Wikipedia articles especially Nigerian Political office Holders.

Also, I will reiterate again that I do not have another Wikipedia account and I have never been hired/paid to create content on wikipedia. I do all what I do out of the passion I have for closing the content gap on wikipedia. It has been difficult for me to lead a club in a place where Internet access is quite poor and I have given so much of my resources to this course. I will say it is injustice to falsely accuse me of sock puppetry and Hired/Paid editing when I have never done so. Thank you. Haylad (talk) 09:38, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have now spent considerable time looking through Haylad's contributions. There are numerous examples of additions of unsourced content on living people, both in drafts and in live articles (e.g., , note the anachronistic error and the wrong edit summary). There are examples of flat-out wrong information with a cited source that doesn't confirm the information , and there's this visible to admins. There are "improvements" that introduce wrong grammar , and grammar in general is often error-prone. Here the subject's very name, as given in the first sentence, disagrees with the cited sources. Haylad is heavily invested in editing and creating BLPs, but after a year and a half on Wikipedia he says his understanding of key policies including WP:BLP itself may be "still weak". I originally asked about the unsourced personal information because that's often a hallmark of non-independent editors who make use of information that they have received from the article's subject. After the more thorough review of Haylad's edits, it seems more likely that he just took information from somewhere on the internet and didn't cite his source, reliable or not. Now "persistent addition of unsourced content" isn't the original block reason, but it's a severe problem in its own right, particularly in BLPs. Haylad is welcome to request another review of their block via the template, but personally I'd be reluctant to unblock at this point. Huon (talk) 22:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Okay I went through each of your "examples":
 * 9 - What is wrong with "added content"in relation to his contribution to that article? Also, where is the anachronistic error? the "2019" repetition is a basic mistake that anyone can make, if that is what you are referring to.
 * 10 - It makes zero sense to give a page that is still in his draft space as an example...so, I won't even bother analysing whatever is in this.
 * 11 - I see a problem with the change of "70" to "65"...but then again, both figures are not supported by any references on the article anyway.
 * this one visible to admins - has been explained by him in this same discussion over and over. Now that you bring up the link, his explanation concerning that birthdate actually makes sense.
 * 12 - eerrrm....looks like an honest mistake.
 * here - Even though the first reference doesn't state the three names, other sources cited in that same article do. Like this one. So, he hasn't added a wrong information.


 * Like I said earlier, I see too much of bad faith in your handling of this case. None of these "examples" are actually problematic enough to warrant a block. For a user who has made 2,000 edits; if these are his worst mistakes on the encyclopadia, then he has done reasonably well. cc   --Jamie Tubers (talk) 09:30, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The content added to Sarah Imovbioh is not supported by the cited sources. I don't really doubt it's true, but it's still unsourced content added to a BLP.
 * Andrey Sopin wasn't born in the USSR because the USSR didn't exist any more when he was born. By the way, WP:BLP holds for drafts, too, and Haylad routinely moves his own drafts to mainspace when he thinks they're ready, without going through the review process.
 * Guess who added the other unsourced figure. Even if that had already been in the page, added by someone else, changing one piece of unsourced information into some other piece of unsourced information is still inappropriate.
 * The Dremo example is relevant because quite a bit of personal information is added, with a source - that doesn't actually confirm it.
 * The Arjen Robben example is trivial in itself, but it's also symptomatic of Haylad's rather random approach to capitalization. Even if the sentence structure had been improved, there would have been a capitalization error - made in an edit that was supposed to fix grammar. That was only one of several edits that I found that introduced similar capitalization errors.
 * No reference cited in the article calls Gabe Vincent "Gabe Vincent Nnamdi". There is one calling him "Nnamdi Gabe Vincent" and one going for "Gabe Nnamdi Vincent". Making "Nnamdi" his last name seems to be Haylad's invention (or it is based, yet again, on sources that he didn't bother to cite).
 * Finally, I didn't "handle the case". I have asked questions and given opinions. I didn't review the unblock request. I have cleaned up some examples of problematic content added or edited by Haylad, and I might do some more of that. Huon (talk) 10:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the ping. I find it just a bit ironic that you think we’re the ones assuming bad faith when you’ve accused us all of being part of a revenge project from the admin cartel because the user dared to challenge the wrong decision of your admin friend/boss and won? for someone we’ve never interacted with. Speaking personally, I have no clue what you’re even talking about, nor any idea who my “friend/boss” is, and I can say with some degree of confidence that everyone here is probably just as confused about what conspiracy we’re accused of being a part of as I am.To your larger point: no, we block indefinitely and without warning for creating advertising. The fact that the content was one that had been republished by multiple socks doesn’t help the case here, and the specific behaviour surrounding Dremo is pretty compelling that it was being written with the intent to advertise and get around Wikipedia policies. In circumstances such as that, an indefinite block is more than appropriate. This is before we even get to the other issues Huon has discussed. Finally, I didn’t make the block here: I said the explanation provided did not sufficiently address the concerns raised. That is still my view. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've now looked at this further. The Dremo case is still concerning: the page history there is... confusing to say the least, but from what I can make out (and correct me because the number of moves make the exact timeline difficult) Haylad created an article around salting, and change the title at least once. This was a few months ago, but the SPI connection to other accounts for that article suggest that there's an organized campaign, or at least motivation to get the page in here, which combined with the getting around salting thing looks really bad. That being said, this could also just be a competence thing with BLPs, with Dremo being an unfortunate overlap of bad content created in good faith with malicious content created by other people. I'm not really sure which.I will say again, I do not think there is socking involved here, but I would not rule out freelance work or some other COI. That being said, if another admin disagrees based on a future unblock appeal, I'd not fight anyone unblocking. I'm just not going to do it myself. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait a minute... I'm being accused of being a part of some kind of revenge admin cartel? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I was only 'cc'ing you because you have been involved in the discussion; I wasn't accusing you in particular. But yea, I see signs of some group revenge action based on the high level of bad faith assumptions presented in the earlier responses from some of the admins, notably Huon and TonyBallioni...and also the premature closing of the original unblock request, which happened while the user was still responsive and discussions were actively going on.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I am aware of the mistakes and Inadequacies that might have occurred during my previous edits as you have mentioned some earlier. I accept some of those mistakes and will make sure I do not repeat those mistakes by improving my Knowledge on WP:BLP AND WP:IRS, that being said, I will reiterate again that I am not a sock puppeteer and I have never been a Hired/Paid Editor. I will make another unblock request as you have suggested. Thank you.

Haylad (talk) 14:16, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

New unblock request

 * Hi, I would like to request that you please consider Haylad's new unblock request. It's been over a week now without comment. The initial basis for blocking him was found to be incorrect.  He recognises and admits the other issues raised about his editing (issues which are clearly not borne out of malice) and promises to tread more carefully going forward.  Thanks. – Ammarpad (talk) 22:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but after being accused of being part of a cabal, I'm not really interested in answering pings on this talk page any more.  You can thank Jamie Tubers for that.  Find someone else to ping.  I'm unwilling to get further involved in this drama. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:43, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * First of all, I think you can just say what your own decisions are, without trying to find excuses for them. I clearly replied you earlier that I wasn’t accusing you, but you decided to run away with whatever you believe, as an excuse not to unblock someone that was blocked for basically no reason. Don’t put that on me. It’s your decision. Own it.


 * I also find it quite interesting that admins could get worked up after being accused. I mean, this entire block has been based on series of unwarranted accusations. Oh so y’all thought, User:Haylad is a robot that can never feel bad after being badged with series of wrong accusations? I just don’t get it.


 * Finally, if you all consider accusations (from a third party for that matter) to be valid reasons to abandon a case for over 2 weeks, I think you should all reconsider your capabilities to be administrators, because that is just plain absurd. Brings further thoughts about the cabal... —Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:07, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm willing to review this unblock request. To be fair, as I know you'd want me to be, it will take me at least a couple of days to review properly. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:57, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , sorry for pre-empting you, but I have already spent quite a bit of effort reviewing the case, so I thought I'd save you that effort. Huon (talk) 09:44, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks Huon. -- zzuuzz (talk) 09:49, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

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Hey there! Make sure to add categories when writing articles. Also, try to make sure the refs are properly filled out. Thanks. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 16:13, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Duly noted.

Thanks. Haylad (talk) 03:16, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Your newset article, Mohamed Abbassi, was missing categories. Please make sure to add them in the future. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 15:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)


 * will do it now. Haylad (talk) 18:45, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Hello, The duration of the Contest was from May 15th to June 30th, 2022. We announced on the WhatsApp Groups that Participants had till July 7th to list their articles on th articles achievement section. This information is available on the Project Page where you list the articles yo created during the contest. I hope this clears it out. Thanks for participating. We will inform you when we are done with the Jury. Haylad (talk) 11:31, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


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 * Hello, I would appreciate further clarification regarding your statement on the need for additional sources to establish notability. The subject in question is a professional female African basketball player who has represented her Country in multiple instances, including the prestigious AfroBasket Women, the highest African basketball tournament for women. Are you implying that she lacks notability because she is not featured in mainstream American media?

It's important to note that the article contains numerous references from FIBA, the highest basketball authority globally. FIBA sets the guidelines for basketball rules, transcending American media influence. Additionally, I sense a skewed representation of sports notability, particularly a bias against African sporting professionals, especially basketball players. This is evident in the exclusion of players in Africa from the criteria outlined in WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH. Also, there is a FIBA Africa Women's Basketball League, and I intend to write about the teams and players involved. However, adhering to the constraints of WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH poses challenges. Addressing this issue is crucial, especially considering the Wikimedia Foundation's commitment to promoting content creation by Africans for Africans and closing the content gap between Africa and the rest of the world.

I strongly believe that notability criteria such as WP:NBASKETBALL or WP:NCOLLATH may discourage African contributors from enriching Wikipedia with relevant content. These criteria seem to deny 1.2 billion people in Africa access to relatable information due to rules that may have been decided upon by individuals with limited knowledge of the continent.

More Importantly, I would like to ask if your response would be the same if the subject were American or had played college basketball? This situation raises concerns about Systemic bias and Systemic bias on English Wikipedia as seen in this link, potentially bordering on racism, as your evaluation appears to prioritize your personal opinion over Wikipedia's contribution guidelines. I will gather an additional reference for the article and republish it. Meanwhile, I've identified other articles about female basketball players that may also require more sources to establish notability. You can decide whether to move them to draft status and potentially reduce coverage of women athletes on Wikipedia. The choice is yours. The articles are Raven Johnson, Sarah Ogoke, Dulcy Fankam Mendjiadeu, Alexandra Green (basketball), Mercy Wanyama, Tamara Seda, Cristina Matiquite, Bintou Diémé and Ify Ibekwe. Looking forward to your responses and have a great day ahead.Haylad (talk) 08:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I have created close to 50 African biographies and have draftified/deleted tons of articles on white, American or European subjects. Your accusations are laughably absurd, so I'll quickly move on. BLPs require strong independent sourcing which address the subject directly and indepth. It is generally agreed upon that sports governing bodies are not independent of the athletes that compete under their jurisdiction. The Punch has three sentences directly addressing Okoro, which is not at all in-depth. Flash Agency is not independent and Sports Village Square mentions her once. Regardless of her race or nationality, the sources currently in the article do not come close to meeting WP:GNG. You are free to submit the article once you have added these additional sources that better establish notability. Cheers, JTtheOG (talk) 09:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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