User talk:HealthcareTrends

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ludi Inc


A tag has been placed on Ludi Inc requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), web content or organised event, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Mean as custard (talk) 15:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

July 2015
Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to Ludi Inc while logged out. Making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of more than one account or IP address by one person. If this was not your intention, then please always remember to log in when editing. ''It's obviously you just pulling the speedy deletion tags off, stop it. You can discuss the issues at Talk:Ludi Inc instead.'' Joseph2302 (talk) 16:27, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Ludi Inc for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ludi Inc is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ludi Inc until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:30, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
Joseph2302 (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

username
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "HealthcareTrends", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Trammel Museum of Art". However, you are invited to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", and "WidgetFan87".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Moreover, I recommend that you read our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please create a new account or request a username change that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 18:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Conflict of interest in Wikipedia
Hi Adam. I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia. I saw your note at Joseph's page. You didn't quite tell the whole story there, per this page at the Ludi website... right? I am providing you with formal notice of our conflict of interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below....

Hello, HealthcareTrends. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you have an external relationship with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Comments/requests
Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest (COI) is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review.

Disclosure is the most important. As noted above, you have disclosed your real life identity, and ~some~ essential relationships. You didn't disclose your relationship to Ludi, and this is not a very good faith action. What you have done is about the worst kind of "black hat" editing that happens here in Wikipedia, which is not a great way to start.

The Ludi article has now been deleted, so this is not a big deal anymore, but going forward in your editing here, would you please be mindful of COI going forward? (real question!) If you have any questions about what that means, please ask -  I am watching this page, so if you have any questions, you can write them here. I'll also be looking in on your contribs from time to time. Best regards Jytdog (talk) 18:17, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


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 * Thanks for your feedback, it's very helpful. I do have a COI with the deleted Ludi Inc article per the COI guidelines, but I was conscious to write the article in a completely neutral manner, much like any other page. There are several credible publications that confirm the content in the article as well. What can I do to edit the article so that it won't get flagged for deletion in the future? I appreciate your input. Thanks again HealthcareTrends (talk) Adam
 * I cannot see the article that had existed, since it was deleted, but apparently it didn't meet the criteria in our policy that governs whether articles exist or not. I urge you to read, very carefully, WP:Golden rule (a helpful essay), then WP:NOTABILITY (the key policy - the really governing document here), and WP:ORG which is the guideline that applies the NOTABILITY policy to companies. Maybe read them twice, and really try to understand their spirit as well as their letter.  Not every company meets the criteria - especially new companies.  If a company doesn't meet the criteria now, it may meet them later, as the company grows.  These policies, guidelines, and essays are things the WP community put  in place over the years to govern itself - they are really important. One of the hardest things for new editors to wrap their heads around, is that these policies/guidelines exist and form the foundation for everything that happens here.  Anyway, good luck! Jytdog (talk) 19:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I replied with a similar thing at my talkpage. Basically it has to be neutral tone and show notability. Also, you should create a draft first, using WP:AFC, due to your conflict of interest. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:23, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You were "conscious to write the article in a completely neutral manner"? then I'm really glad you didn't try to use Wikipedia for "marketing, customer service and building brand identity", because goodness knows what you would have written. The article was pure marketing copy. If you really sincerely thought it was neutral in tone, then I can only assume that, like many people who work in marketing, you are so used to reading and writing marketing-speak every day, that you are desensitised to it, and can't see it when it is right in front of you. If that is so, then you probably lack the ability to write about the subject in the neutral way required for Wikipedia. I am also interested to note that you told various editors, including me, that you were a graduate student, but didn't think to mention that you are also working for the business you were writing about. Mentioning the aspect of your career which has little or no relevance to what you are doing here, but not the part which is directly relevant? I took some time to think out and write what I hoped would be a helpful answer to your request on my talk page. However, here is a much shorter and simpler message: Wikipedia is not a tool for marketing, promoting publicising, or advertising anything. If that is your purpose here, then you are in the wrong place. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:11, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Quick note to you, Adam - the frustration you hear in JamesBWatson's post is what happens when you don't act in good faith - you burn bridges and lose credibility. You seem to be aiming for a career in business, and please hear me that what you did here in WP is something you should never do in the real world - bad faith representations hurt you more than anyone else.  You are for sure going to have an uphill road here in WP now. Jytdog (talk) 19:30, 4 July 2015 (UTC)