User talk:HeatherSignal

Signal (Aberdeen) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Signal (Aberdeen), is not suitable as written to remain published. Aside from questionable notability, it appears there is a WP:UPE or WP:COI conflict. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, and have addressed the UPE/COI issue, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. As per WP policy, please do not move into mainspace yourself.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:15, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thanks for the quick review. Do you have any advice on how to address these issues as I'm new to creating pages on Wiki. Cheers, HeatherSignal HeatherSignal (talk) 15:20, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

February 2023
Hello HeatherSignal. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:HeatherSignal. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 10:33, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

I see on the draft talk page that you declared a COI; if you work for this company, the Terms of Use require you to make the stricter paid editing disclosure. You should do this on your user page as well as the draft talk page. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm trying to comply with the strictness. Nothing in the article is untrue, and I'd added info about me being affiliated with the company. I've added sources to prove it's a real company and taken out the colourful language. I'm not sure what else I can do. Is there any chance this will be published or should I just scrap it? 84.70.250.82 (talk) 10:38, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Please remember to log in so we know it's you. As I said, I see that you declared a COI, but the Terms of Use require you to make a paid editing disclosure("paid editing" includes any financial relationship, such as general employment). You may make the user page declaration by following the instructions in my above message. I will look at the draft more closely in a moment. 331dot (talk) 10:50, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * In looking over your draft, it seems that you have some very common misunderstandings about Wikipedia and what we do here. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves and what they do, where mere existence warrants a mention.  This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, which we call "notability"- such as the definition of a notable company.
 * An article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets that definition of a notable company. We don't want to know what the company says about itself, but what others wholly unconnected with the company have chosen on their own to say about it(and not based on materials from the company like its website, press releases, or interviews). "Significant coverage" goes beyond merely documenting what the company does, and goes into detail about its significance or influence as the source sees it, not as the company itself sees it. Most of your draft reads like it could be on your company website(and is unsourced).
 * In order for you to succeed in writing about your company, you must set aside everything that you know about it and all materials it puts out, and only write based on the content of independent reliable sources with significant coverage. That's usually very hard for people in your position to do. If you don't have appropriate sources with which you can radically rewrite the draft, it's not going to be accepted. 331dot (talk) 11:02, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I saw that you placed the template in the article draft. It actually belongs on your userpage (User:HeatherSignal), so I have moved it there for you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:10, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah thank you! HeatherSignal (talk) 14:16, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The major problem with your draft article are your sources. Trade publications are often questionable sources, as they tend to be promotional in nature. Likewise, citing lists of awards the company has received is considered trivial coverage. We need more objective sources like mainstream news organizations, academic press, and/or reputable publishers of books, magazines and newspapers. You have used a BBC source, which would be considered a reliable source; however, the cited work isn't about Signal, so it's basically useless. We need evidence of in-depth coverage from multiple reliable and independent sources to show that this company meets the notability criteria and therefore worthy of inclusion. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:21, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This is all the info I could find from news broadcasters of Signal. The articles aren't about Signal but they use Signal's work in the article and site the company. HeatherSignal (talk) 14:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to say that if there isn't significant coverage about the company itself, then it simply isn't notable enough for inclusion. And unforunately, no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Signal (Aberdeen)
Hello, HeatherSignal. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Signal (Aberdeen), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Signal (Aberdeen)


Hello, HeatherSignal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Signal".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 02:17, 1 September 2023 (UTC)