User talk:Helgeknudsen

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About Department of physics and astronomy Aarhus University
Hi Helge, and again welcome to Wikipedia!

I notice that it is the same as information on the University's website. It would be a good idea to re-write the article in your own words, otherwise it may be deleted very soon because of infringement of copyright.

Thank you! --Shirt58 (talk) 09:00, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Department of Physics and Astronomy
Dear Shirt58

It is true that some text on the wiki article on ”Department of Physics and Astronomy” has been taken from the Departments official home page. I am, however, Chairman of the Departments PR committee, and as such copyright holder of that text. So there should be no problem… Yours, Helge Helgeknudsen (talk) 09:28, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Dr Knudsen!


 * Unfortunately there is a problem. WP:IANAL, but this page on your University's website says that all the content of http://www.au.dk/ is under copyright. I am a lawyer, but on Wikipedia WP:IANAL applies, and as a volunteer editor I must follow Wikipedia's policies on copyright violations. If you want to release the text of the department's website into a domain where it can be freely quoted and re-used, well there are a whole lot of problems that I cam only mention as a volunteer editor.  To start, but WP:IANAL, the governing body of your University (WP:IANAL) may have to be alerted that you wish to release any of its content from copyright.  I can't help you with this: WP:IANAL.
 * --Shirt58 (talk) 11:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Department of Physics and Astronomy - again
Dear Shirt58,

Thanks for your help! I will not try to "fight the system" but instead do as you suggest and rewrite the article with my own words. Please give me a few days to do so.

Yours, Helge Helgeknudsen (talk) 19:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Department of Physics ..  again
Dear Pete,

I hope the amendment of my article makes it OK?

By the way: When I write in my own talk page, how do I make sure that you see it?

Yours, Helge


 * Inserting a few words does not adequately deal with any copyright issues.TR 08:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
At the risk of harassing a new user with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware of the Wikipedia policies with respect to users with a conflict of interest (WP:COI), if you are not already. This is just meant as a friendly notice to make you aware of the policy, since you obviously have a conflict of interest. This is not necessarily a problem as long as you stick to the guidelines.TR 08:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

COI ???
Dear TR and Shirt58,

The reason I have written something about our Department on Wikipedia is that I happened to find an entry there which was entirely inadequate, being just a copy/paste of a chapter of an article on the Departments history.

I think that what I have written is very sober, with just a few facts about the Department, but I am of cource willing to follow your advice for amendments.

Yours, Helge
 * Note that I wasn't implying that what you have written is not neutral (despite some minor issues of tone this does not seem to be the most pressing issue. I was just making sure you were aware of the potential uses of editting a wikipedia article on a subject, you have a close (professional) relationship.
 * (Just an aside, lying does not really help your case. You created the article about the department on wikipedia. So you did not find any entry before you started editting.)
 * A much more pressing issue is the notability of the subject as I have noted on the article talk page. I see no reason why this particular physics department is any more notable than most other physics departments. The general rule for inclusion on wikipedia is that the subject has had adequate coverage in reliable secondary or tertiary sources. In the case of your department, this means that there must be reliable secondary sources (i.e. unrelated to your department) that discuss your department (not its members or projects) at some length. Simple mention in some news report is not enough in this respect. If no evidence of notability is produced, the article will be nominated for deletion, making any additional work done on it pointless.TR 12:12, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

COI again
Dear Timothy Rias,

It is actually true that I found an inadequate entry on our institute on wikipedia. However, it was on the Danish Wikipedia. Since I had now written a better entry on the Danish wikipedia, I made it into English, and posted it on the English wikipedia.

Being a scientist, I strongly recent being called a lyer. Please look op the Danish article and then give me an apology! Next time you unjustly call someone a lyer, please be assured that it will not help wikipedia at all.

Helge
 * In that case my apologies. (P.S. please use ~ to sign your posts. This will automatically add you signature and the time and date to the post.) TR 14:09, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

To: TR
Dear TR, OK! I know that you editors do a lot of good work, and appreciate it. Helge Helgeknudsen (talk) 06:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC)