User talk:Hello Control/4

Concern
Based on my experience trying to do this by myself, unless the language in WP:MUSIC is tightened up, a lot of these will be whined about by their owners, no matter how badly they violate WP:CRYSTAL, and we won't be able to delete them without a full-blown AfD process, no matter how crappy the "sourcing" is. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have been working on that, actually. There are discussions going on at that talk page. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  19:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Release dates
Nice work, so far. But one issue: "Per WP:ALBUMS, there shouln't be a release date in the infobox in the "Released" field until the album is actually released." Actually, I can't find "nail it down" wording on this at WP:ALBUMS. On the talk page for the infobox, there was discussion, but it seems to have stalled out. Also, shouldn't this more properly be a part of an existing project? I'm more than willing to dig in on this one -- there's a lot of garbage out there -- but I think we need as much legitimate consensous on this as we can get. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just threw this together here to see if I could drum up any interest first; if it seems like people are into it, then yeah, I want to move it to something like WP:Future album patrol and put something at the WPP:MUSIC noticeboard. I wasn't trying to start up a secret Star Chamber-like cabal or anything. The release date part I fall back on is that is says "earliest known date that the album was released" combined with the common-sense fact that the field says "Released" as in "was released" not "will be released". The one time someone got bent out of shape over it, I let them have their way. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  20:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been accused of WP:POINT (etc.) for correcting just this type of situation. Then again, a few of my AfDs got pretty heated (and a few were just bad ideas). - Mdsummermsw (talk) 17:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've gotten off easy then, I guess. I don't see what point someone would think you were trying to make but some folks will argue just about anything. If you ever want me to take a look at a problem article (or a questionable one) and add my 2¢, just let me know. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  18:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)