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November 2021
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at List of Roblox games, you may be blocked from editing. -- ferret (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

December 2021
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Request for assistance in relation to Super Soco/Vmoto articles
Hi Helpingworld, I hope you are well.

I am contacting you because you were a supporter of the Vmoto page, and so I was wondering if I could lean on you, for some assistance in a matter relating to this page, and another associated page, that of Super Soco?

First up, I should notify you of something that has likely escaped your attention.

In recent days, one Wiki editor has slapped a tag on the Super Soco page, stating that A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. and This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use.

At a glance, these tags give the impression that they reflect some kind of consensus view. However, this is not at all the case. It is important to note that it is just one editor who is behind this push.

If you look at the Super Soco AFD page, you’ll see his arguments around COI are summarised in the first three lines.

Suspected WP: UPE - because creator is also connected with Revolt Motors and Vmoto - both distributors of Super Soco electric bikes in India and Australia respectively.

I attempted to explain to the editor in question that his argument behind the UPE and COI tags are mistaken, and that Revolt Motors is not the distributor of Super Soco bikes in India, they are an independent company and are a competitor to Vmoto.

To give an example of what I am referring to, see the link below. What this illustrates is that Vmoto are in fact in compemption with Revolt in India:

''Vmoto is an Australian two-wheeler manufacturing group that largely makes electric scooters. The company recently signed an MoU with the Indian company Bird Group, and will discuss collaborating for the distribution of two of its products – Super Soco CUmini and Super Soco CUx.''

Source: https://gaadiwaadi.com/super-soco-cumini-electric-scooter-india-launch-confirmed/

My attempts to explain this seem to have fallen on deaf ears, he responded by stating  Let's hold the horses and wait for others' assessment. In other words, even this editor doesn't deny the UPE tag is questionable!

The argument of the editor around Revolt is based on a source that referring to a supply chain link between Super Soco. However, these links are common in the automotive industry, and especially in a small, emerging industry as is the case with the e-motorcycle space.

There is no question that Revolt Motors and Vmoto Soco are independent companies (in fact, the same is true of Vmoto and Super Soco, although these do have a partnership relationship, albeit one which seems to be breaking down).

Essentially, the UPE and the COI tags on the page are based on the claim that Revolt is the Super Soco distributor in India, which is certainly not the case. In fact, Revolt is not even the same brand as Super Soco.

The reason I feel compelled to mention this to you, is because if the Super Soco article is pulled down based on the dodgy UPE claim, the editor who is pushing for the removal of Super Soco (and it is largely being driven by the one fellow) will then go on to delete the Vmoto page, using the removal of the Super Soco page as justification.

What concerns me about this is that the UPE tag on a Wikipedia page is like the kiss of death. Most visitors to the page will not realise that there is just one editor behind this, and some will surely nominate the article for delete, based on this mistaken view that there is a well-founded consensus.

At the moment, the editor is targeting the Super Soco page, because he knows it is much quieter that the Vmoto page (note that the UPE tag has not been pasted on the Vmoto page, despite the comments of the editor on the Super Soco page: I believe this is tactical, it looks to me as if the editor is aiming to quietly remove the Super Soco page, before anyone notices).

What I am requesting, is would you be able to offer some support in this?

If you could post a 'Keep' request on the Super Soco page that would be a help for sure. However, what would be even more helpful is if you could challenge the dubious UPE claim, posted at the top of the Super Soco page. Basically, if you could employ your research skills to track down any sources that show Revolt Motors and Vmoto are independent and distinct companies, and post it on the Super Soco or Revolt page, that would be fantastic.

Essentially, if the aim is to keep the Vmoto and Super Soco page, we need to show that Revolt Motors and Vmoto are distinct companies, to invalidate the assertion by this editor that there is a conflict of interest here (by the way, I have never accepted a payment for an article on Wikipedia, nor will I ever, although that almost goes without saying).

What makes this a bit challenging is that is that there is a lot of mis-information about Vmoto, Super Soco and Revolt, many writers don't understand the relationship between them, and it is possible to 'cherry pick' poor quality sources to mount an argument that there is a relationship between Revolt and Super Soco/Vmoto. So I need some assistance with this, I'm not going to be able to do it on my own.

Thanks for reading Helping World, I know you are probably busy, but any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Inchiquin (talk) 17:04, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy tagging
You tagged three place articles as WP:A1. You failed to notify the author of the articles. Instead, you posted notices on the article Talk page. All of your tags were declined because they were wrong. I also deleted the article Talk pages that you inappropriately created. Do not tag any more articles for deletion. You clearly do not understand how it works and your tags are disruptive.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

I understand but can I request for those articles to become drafts so they can get improvement? HelpingWorld (talk) 02:13, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, HelpingWorld,
 * If you want to improve the articles, feel free to improve them. They are stub articles, there are thousands of them on Wikipedia. Please review Stub so you understand how a one sentence entry can be considered an article.
 * If you have questions about article creation or Wikipedia's deletion policies, please bring them to the Teahouse. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Your signature color
Hi HelpingWorld! I like your signature, but noticed it does not meet Wikipedia's standards for accessibility. Specifically, the visual contrast ratio is too low. Your signature of cyan (#00FFFF) on white (#FFFFFF) comes in at 1.25:1, and the minimum requirement is 4.5:1 (see WP:SIGAPP). Please change the color of your signature to meet the visual contrast ratio requirement. –– FormalDude  talk  06:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC) Hey I think I fixed it but I am new to this signature thing. `~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 05:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Great, thank you! –– FormalDude  talk  18:58, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

"Was" vs "Is" in TV shows
Hi HelpingWorld -- I just wanted to flag to your attention this portion of the manual of style: MOS:TVNOW. The relevant part of the manual states, References to the show, and its characters and locations, should always be in the present tense, as the show will still exist even after it is no longer airing new episodes (e.g. "The Dick Van Dyke Show is a show that aired from 1961 to 1966."). I know it may seem a bit counter-intuitive at first, but this is generally the rule used in TV show articles (e.g., I Love Lucy uses "is" even though the show has been out of production since 1957). Thank you. Aoi (青い) (talk) 01:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This applies to most creative works, they still continue to exist after they are complete - see Epic of Gilgamesh for example. A series of television episodes is no different. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:50, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Answering at the Teahouse
Hi! I see you have taken to answering questions at the Teahouse. Unfortunately, some of those answers are incorrect, such as this one (one is allowed to revert warning on one’s own talk page with very few exceptions, and reverting edits blindly is bad but usually not vandalism).

I would suggest that in future replies, you try to give a wikilink to the policy that applies. This way, you can check what it says for sure before posting your reply. It is fairly important to get it right, because even if you end up reverting an incorrect answer, there is a chance that someone will have read and remembered the previous incorrect answer. Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with Tigraan. Be sure that your answer is correct before you post it. Cullen328 (talk) 16:57, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

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Chandler Halderson
Hi, I just wanted to mention that if you are still planning on creating an article about the Halderson murders, it might be good to read this essay which suggests centering the event (i.e. by titling the article "Murders of Bart and Krista Halderson") rather than the murderer. Also, do note that this event would need to meet notability guidelines as mentioned in that essay. Happy writing! Patr2016 (talk) 03:53, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help! I have never created a crime article before so this is really appreciated and I am going to start working on it again. Thanks again. `~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 04:34, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Siege of Oreshek (1611–1612)
Hello, HelpingWorld,

It's absolutely fine if you want to rescue an expiring draft from CSD G13 deletion. Just be sure to follow through and do some work on these drafts or they will just come up for deletion again, six months from now. There's no point in postponing deletion if you don't intend to spend time getting a draft in good enough shape to submit to WP:AFC. Typically, the draft creators are long gone so there is only you to improve the article. Thanks for all of your contributions to the platform! Liz Read! Talk! 01:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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