User talk:Helpmeoutnow

I Apologize
I am sorry. Please accept my apology. You are right, I have a big probelm with vandals and see no excuse for the behavior. This being said, I will look more carefully into the cases before I declare them vandals. I hope that we can put this behind us a be friends. (Steve 01:48, 5 March 2006 (UTC))

Psst
Please check out this page. Pass it on! &mdash; Catherine\talk 01:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

In response.
Sources:

My argument is simply that Wikipedia prohibits people from using Bulletin Boards as sources. As wikipedia's policies state, these Bulletin Boards are never reliable sources. Also, a posting of Cooley as a "TTT" is only referred to in bulletin boards. Thus, "TTT" is a term derived from a bulletin board and is not an authoritative source. Remember wikipedia is about making the site and the content an encyclopedia. Personal opinions, opinions of very small groups of people are prohibited, as well as blatant attempts to engage in attacks on the content of articles are prohibited.

There have been no presentations of authoritative sources on any of the reverts. In the event you find an actual article, which agrees with your opinions posted by a verifiable & reputable source, then I welcome you to post it and I will not object, so long as the blurb you post explaining the article accurately portrays the article’s content. My concern here is for the integrity of the article, criticisms as long as they are well founded and grounded in verifiable & reputable sources are welcome.

My Accusations of Vandalism:

The accusations were made for the revert war that had been happening between us, and between you and other users on the site. I decided not to violate the wiki 3RR and instead decided to report it as vandalism. In my opinion non-familiarity with the rules of wikipedia's sources, and posting sources outside of those rules are violations of wiki's policy are vandalism -- especially since you began reverting after I posted those policies.

I assumed that the other user was a sock puppet of yours since the reversions were extremely similar to the RV war occurring. If I was mistaken I apologize, but I am still not satisfied that he is not a sock puppet.

Also, your blatant arguments for keeping a picture of feces on the page for the logo are clearly a strong showing of bias on your part. As your edits show, your only objective is to berate and destroy the authenticity and reputation of the school. This kind of conduct is not the conduct that wikipedia intended when it began. Wikipedia is a place of cooperation, and verification. As I said before, Criticism if it is reputable and verifiable is welcome. Bulletin Board posts are specifically prohibited as part of wikipedia policy. This article is not a place to debate the merits of the school; the article is intended to provide information.

This user is well aware of the opinions of Cooley in small groups of online posting boards. However, these groups do not reflect the overall opinion of the school in the community nor in the state of Michigan, nor the country. Please be aware that your attacks in my opinion are libel. The school & students, and over 10,000+ graduates of the school, and practicing attorneys tend to disprove the opinions of a few who are far removed from the school, the practice of law, and the attorneys of the State of Michigan. Again, wikipedia is not a place to debate these issues, the bulletin boards are.

Personal Attacks:

Calling someone a "Cooley troll" and the obvious lack of tact on the discussion board, I feel was a personal attack. The candor presented on the discussing board by you and those of your cohorts are transparent attempts by people bent on clouding the reputation of the school, so they can feel better about the schools they choose. While they are within their rights to do so, wikipedia is not a proper forum for this type of activity.

My Position to Evaluate Information regarding the article:

As the accused stated, I am a Cooley student, and I attend the school. Thus, I feel I am more qualified to verify the authenticity of the article more so than other users, as I am familiar with the students, the school, the faculty, and the practice of law in Michigan. I however, avoid interjecting my personal opinions of the school into the article (I have my own good things and bad things to say about the school). I did not post it is the "best school ever" or other such praises of the school on the site. I am merely attempting to keep the articles integrity for being factually correct, using authoritative, verifiable, and reputable sources. Bulletin boards not these sources. My goal is not to hold Cooley out as the best law school around for personal gain. Your goal should not be to portray the school as the worst around for personal pleasure. In between we will find a compromise.

I welcome your invitation to resolve this issue in a civil manner. I also hope you recognize that the opinions of a few are not necessarily the correct opinions.

bweimert 19:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Response to Offer

 * Response -- For the time being the complaint has been removed from the complaint board per our agreement. I will also avoid editing until such time as we reach a further agreement. Please be aware if this preliminary editing agreement is violated then I will promptly re-request an investigation and/or Wiki Arbitration for this issue. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter, and I look forward to working with you to provide a verifiable and accurate article. bweimert 19:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)